Darth Vader vs Count Dooku

None of that matters because Vader ROTJ is at least 80% of Sidious.

I ignored your post, because it was going no where. Like you said we discussed it before no point in beating a dead horse. So, I not going to keep repeating points to just have you say it opinion when everything you are saying is also opinion.

the one thing that is fact is that GL, Stated Vader is 80% of Sidious. Lucas being Vague is irrelevant, and Vader wasn't trying to Kill Luke none of the fights he faced him. Luke even stated that Vader was conflicted the whole fight; Ignoring that and saying they are equals is a sad attempt to low ball.

Dooku's Force lightning hasn't one shotted anyone on Vader level, Him hold back again is irrelevant, I guess you are going to say Dooku was holding back against Padawan learner Anakin as well even those he was Exhausted from the fight.

It's best to just agree to disagree and move on.

@mygod101:

None of that matters because Vader ROTJ is at least 80% of Sidious.

Which I debunked in another discussion with you.

I ignored your post, because it was going no where. Like you said we discussed it before no point in beating a dead horse. So, I not going to keep repeating points to just have you say it opinion when everything you are saying is also opinion.

Fair enough. You could have at least explained this to me before.

the one thing that is fact is that GL, Stated Vader is 80% of Sidious. Lucas being Vague is irrelevant, and Vader wasn't trying to Kill Luke none of the fights he faced him.

GL was vague with his wording and just in general his use of percentages (per Chee) shouldn't be taken as absolute fact as they're kinda flimsy.

Luke even stated that Vader was conflicted the whole fight; Ignoring that and saying they are equals is a sad attempt to low ball.

What Luke thinks is irrelevant given Vader is trying to kill Luke during their fight in ROTJ per The Return of the Jedi Novelization, The Return of the Jedi Comic and The Rise and Fall of Darth Vader.

As for Luke multiple sources state they are equals including quotes from the ROTJ Script which is G-Canon.

Dooku's Force lightning hasn't one shotted anyone on Vader level, Him hold back again is irrelevant, I guess you are going to say Dooku was holding back against Padawan learner Anakin as well even those he was Exhausted from the fight.

Wut? How is him holding back "irrelevant" when you're trying to use the feat to prove Dooku's full power can't one shot Anakin?

As for Dooku being tired after the fight that was simply because fighting in general is tiring because of his age. Multiple sources state Dooku defeated the duo "easily".

It's best to just agree to disagree and move on.

Okay.

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@alavanka:

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@jacensolo77: I'll respond in a minute.

@jacensolo77:

Vader wins based off his parity to Starkiller as of The Force Unleashed 2, someone with superior feats to Dooku in pretty much everything (The destruction of the Salvation, contending with TFU Sheev (Contextual as it is), destroying his clones, ragdolling an army, redirecting a falling ISD ect).

Vader got stomped in TFU and lost to Galen while the latter was exhausted in TFU 2.

Furthermore your Ben Kenobi/ROTS Kenobi comparison doesn't work for a number of reasons which I'll explain if you bother to debate this.

Please do make your case. So far your commments regarding the subject have been rather pointless as you're just saying sutff without proving it.

Vader kills him

who Bumped this? Vader Stomps Dooku.

Still Vader.

Still Dooku.

Better dueling feats. Vader never dueled anyone of note post his limited suit, burnt body, and loss of force power he had as Anakin.

Force wise they are even enough though Dooku has incredible Force Lightning + TK combos out of any Sith Lord bar Sidious, and that is bad news for Vader.

In accolades Vader best accolade is legends were he is stated 80% Sidious. Yet Legends sources state several times Dooku is equals with Yoda in Force and Skill. So in that regard Dooku is better in even accolades.

So answer is still Dooku.

Dooku wins a majority in sabers, however not without difficulty and ROTJ Vader can take a few due to the Count's inferior stamina. But yeah, overall, Dooku is more skilled, physically stronger, probably quicker, and probably more agile. It's a tough fight, that's for sure. Vader has had, after all, over two decades of growth since ROTS.

Dooku takes a Force round every time however, no doubt about it. Dooku just has objectively superior feats. He has casually tossed around 215 meter Sith cruisers + other vehicles ranging from iirc 40-70 meters. Vader's best TK feat is manhandling an AT-AT(22 meters), which is good but not nearly as good. Moreover we know that Dooku's lightning was capable of challenging AOTC Yoda himself, and when that lightning was hurled back at him, Dooku easily deflected it, demonstrating a level of comparability.

@tourneymaster: "Vader never dueled anyone of note post his limited suit, burnt body, and loss of force power he had as Anakin".

Just because Vader never got the chance to face oponents like Dooku did in his era is not an indicative on him being < Dooku

Also you are dead wrong.

Vader stomped a jedi with insane hype on Kessel only a week after ROTS

"Ma'kis'shaalas: A Morgukai warrior and Nikto Jedi Master, he survived Order 66. Master Ma'kis'shaalas was known as a fanatical adherent to the Jedi Order, and a fierce combatant. He agreed to meet Master Shadday Potkin on Kessel as part of a plot to ensnare Darth Vader. Vader cut Ma'kis'shaalas down in combat".

Complete Star Wars Encyclopedia

And using the force lightning arguement is silly as Vader can block it with his saber.

@deadlyeyes:

Just because Vader never got the chance to face oponents like Dooku did in his era is not an indicative on him being < Dooku

Also you are dead wrong.

Vader stomped a jedi with insane hype on Kessel only a week after ROTS

"Ma'kis'shaalas: A Morgukai warrior and Nikto Jedi Master, he survived Order 66. Master Ma'kis'shaalas was known as a fanatical adherent to the Jedi Order, and a fierce combatant. He agreed to meet Master Shadday Potkin on Kessel as part of a plot to ensnare Darth Vader. Vader cut Ma'kis'shaalas down in combat".

Complete Star Wars Encyclopedia

Fodder jedi, very impressive indeed. Meanwhile Dooku is dueling and holding off time and again Kenobi and Anakin at the same time. Holding off Ventress and Savage at the same time. Holding off Vos and Ventress at the same time. Holding off Yoda for over 40 seconds of screen time. Not shitty fodder.

And using the force lightning arguement is silly as Vader can block it with his saber.

Blocking with Saber is not a strong argument as we seen characters hit Vader with Force lightning/electrcity attacks here and there in battles of both Legends and Canon. Its a major factor and something that Vader suit is weak too. Its a factor.

@tourneymaster: Lol and those characters have hit Vader with lightning when he was unarmed.

Dooku held off Ventress and Savage but Savage managed to overwhelm him at one point with his pure strength, showing his weakness to strength based attacks, Vader can do the same after a lengthy battle. He is physically stronger than Dooku, and is skilled in Djem So, and Juyo. Two forms that can counter Makashi very effectively, as shown with Anakin vs Dooku. Some sources have even claimed he was the greatest djem so master.

Lol,I just provided you with evidence that one of the jedi he killed wasn't fodder, and still claim he was fodder anyway.... Not even going to bother.

Sure Dooku can hold his own against Anakin, Obi Wan etc. Because his fighting style is suited to taking two oponents on at the same time. And he lost to Vos when he engaged him 1v1. Again he was at a physical disadvantage when he lost.

Dooku contended with a Yoda who was holding back, and even then he still retreated within seconds.

Vader wins this after a decent fight.

Dooku loses like in Revenge of the Sith. RoTJ Vader is stronger then the Anakin that slayed him. Stronger Djem So + more fighting experience + more skill with all of the other lightsaber styles especially Makashi + superior Force ability. to Dooku (Vader's 80% of Sidious's power). It'll take longer than jedi Anakin, but Vader will deplete Dooku's energy with his Force-augmented strikes.

@deadlyeyes:

What strength feat of Vader's, surpasses an exhausted Dooku matching AOTC Yoda in a bladelock? Especially when weaker versions of Yoda have overpowered ROTS Sidious in bladelocks multiple times.

@deadlyeyes: The fact remains Dooku has a power that can mess Vader up and to suggest Vader can 100 percent always counter this range attack is fanboy fanatasy on your part. More so when Dooku is one of the very rare few characters in SW lore who use TK and Force Lightning at the same time.

I mean I guess Anakin and Ventress dont know how to block Force Lightning? Oh wait they sure do but still get tag often by Dooku who uses TK and Lightning combos.Vader is not immune to this because he can possibly block it. Its not guaranteed.

You posted a stupid quote of someone being a Jedi Master, big whoop. We seen many Masters get wreck by characters like Savage, Grievous, Ventress, ect. Dooku in turns wreck them. They are featless fodder. Nice try.

Too bad Vader is not as agile or even as powerful in strength as characters like Peak Anakin, Savage, Grievous, or Yoda himself. Hell in canon comics Vader needed help fighting off a General Grievous knock off.

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General Karbin was a lame ass Mon Calamari that no one heard off, given the Grievous treatment, and train by a non Jedi Scientist. Grievous was a super warrior known across the galaxy train by Dooku in all forms of Lightsaber styles and Dooku always beat Grievous handily where Vader struggle in a dozen page fight with Karbin. Your argument falls flat there. Dooku in several sources is stated to been near equals or temporary stalemated Yoda, and in film it was a course of 40 second fight. Nice try. I can post the sources to show how little you seem to know. Want me too lol?

Canon Sources

Read carefully, stated in writing " Calls on the Force to fight the Sith Lord to a draw." Yeah that sounds like Yoda was leaps and bounds superior.

Stated again in current canon Encyclopedias that Dooku and and Yoda had a stated "titanic struggle of Force powers" with he first quote stating flat out "Neither besting the other." Yeah again really paints a picture of Yoda dominating Dooku, no wait its the opposite.

Legends Sources

In the novel version of the fight, Dooku and Yoda locked blades, with the quote stating "in a contest of strength, physical and in the Force" Yet Yoda not only congrats Dooku but only able to force Dooku back by a little. Unable to easily beat him at all.

Stated here flat out, "Yoda skills were really put to the test" and "The match ended in a stalemate." Stated in another quote "Yoda and Dooku were almost equals." Yeah that screams huge power gap lmao.

Another Legends quote states "They were too evenly match" when talking the force battle they had. Hmmm... I see a pattern here.

Conclusions

Dooku is in 3 sources of canon sources, and in several sources of Legends canon a near equal or flat out match for Yoda in Force and Dueling abilities. This is after Dooku fought Obi and Anakin to before hand which many forget. Anyone trying to say otherwise just shows they are not only misinform, which you clearly proven now.

@tourneymaster:

Makis'shaalas waa described as a "fierce combatant," and before his tenure as a Jedi Master he was among the best Morgukai of his time. In case you didn't know, Morgukai are among the most deadly warrior/assassin organizations in galactic history, trained to hunt and kill Jedi, and their martial arts and fighting techniques are completely hidden from the entire galaxy. They are right up there with the Echani, Dashade and Anzati, if not better. Heck these guys were straight up Jedi AND Sith killers on average, to the point where they were universally feared.

The average Morgukai is described as a "peerless duelist," a threat to "even the most seasoned of Jedi," and random guys like Bok and his father have been capable of going toe-to-toe with higher level Jedi. The High Council was afraid of the very possibility of their reemergence, so yeah.

And Vader, a few weeks after Mustafar(quite weakened from his injuries, mentally unbalanced and still adjusting to his new suit), one-shot Makis while fighting several other Jedi.

Clearly it's not as good as Dooku's feat, but it's not some worthless accomplishment.

.......Yeah...because Count Dooku can rip apart Steel doors without the force....Stop it, please. You're an embarrassment to star wars fandom to even be considered knowledgable in Star wars when you make comments like Dooku is "physically" Stronger than Vader.

@tourneymaster said:

@deadlyeyes: The fact remains Dooku has a power that can mess Vader up and to suggest Vader can 100 percent always counter this range attack is fanboy fanatasy on your part. More so when Dooku is one of the very rare few characters in SW lore who use TK and Force Lightning at the same time.

I mean I guess Anakin and Ventress dont know how to block Force Lightning? Oh wait they sure do but still get tag often by Dooku who uses TK and Lightning combos.Vader is not immune to this because he can possibly block it. Its not guaranteed.

You posted a stupid quote of someone being a Jedi Master, big whoop. We seen many Masters get wreck by characters like Savage, Grievous, Ventress, ect. Dooku in turns wreck them. They are featless fodder. Nice try.

Too bad Vader is not as agile or even as powerful in strength as characters like Peak Anakin, Savage, Grievous, or Yoda himself. Hell in canon comics Vader needed help fighting off a General Grievous knock off.

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General Karbin was a lame ass Mon Calamari that no one heard off, given the Grievous treatment, and train by a non Jedi Scientist. Grievous was a super warrior known across the galaxy train by Dooku in all forms of Lightsaber styles and Dooku always beat Grievous handily where Vader struggle in a dozen page fight with Karbin. Your argument falls flat there. Dooku in several sources is stated to been near equals or temporary stalemated Yoda, and in film it was a course of 40 second fight. Nice try. I can post the sources to show how little you seem to know. Want me too lol?

Canon Sources

Read carefully, stated in writing " Calls on the Force to fight the Sith Lord to a draw." Yeah that sounds like Yoda was leaps and bounds superior.

Stated again in current canon Encyclopedias that Dooku and and Yoda had a stated "titanic struggle of Force powers" with he first quote stating flat out "Neither besting the other." Yeah again really paints a picture of Yoda dominating Dooku, no wait its the opposite.

Legends Sources

In the novel version of the fight, Dooku and Yoda locked blades, with the quote stating "in a contest of strength, physical and in the Force" Yet Yoda not only congrats Dooku but only able to force Dooku back by a little. Unable to easily beat him at all.

Stated here flat out, "Yoda skills were really put to the test" and "The match ended in a stalemate." Stated in another quote "Yoda and Dooku were almost equals." Yeah that screams huge power gap lmao.

Another Legends quote states "They were too evenly match" when talking the force battle they had. Hmmm... I see a pattern here.

Conclusions

Dooku is in 3 sources of canon sources, and in several sources of Legends canon a near equal or flat out match for Yoda in Force and Dueling abilities. This is after Dooku fought Obi and Anakin to before hand which many forget. Anyone trying to say otherwise just shows they are not only misinform, which you clearly proven now.

Yoda was clearly holding back against Dooku, why even use this to manipulate word plays when we know you are just going to backtrack this and say Dooku is no match for Yoda?

Vader was outright stated to be 80% of ROTJ Sidious...who is much stronger than ROTS Sidious. Sidious right before ROTS was able to casually force Choke Dooku, without even trying.

LMFAO...this is absurd to think anyone with Force lightning will just fold Vader, Being faster isn't going to save Dooku from Vader who overwhelms him with his blade strikes, and then force powers.

Vader high difficulty.

@mygod101:

Ignoring the provocative insults, I'm guessing Dooku could finger-flick durasteel blast doors if he wished, given that he contended with Yoda in a bladelock while exhausted, and a weaker version of Yoda physically overpowered ROTS Sidious in a bladelock. Kindly cite strength feats that surpass this, and then we'll talk.

@tourneymaster: Those supposed canon sources are actually non-canon, for Attack of the Clones: the Expanded Visual Dictionary -to which the first quote you presented belongs- and The Complete Star Wars Encyclopedia -to which the second and third quote belong- both predate the Disney acquisition.

It wasn't an insult, I'm just saying when you make those types of comments, and undermind the respect you are given among the star wars fan on here you embarrass them with those type of comments.

Dooku hasn't shown that he can rip apart reinforced steel doors with his bare hands without any force augmenting him, Vader has and can rip steel doors apart without even using his force powers. Vader can flick blast doors with the force as well it makes no difference. Vader in TK is far more powerful than Dooku is.

Again, that is meaningless when Vader is close in power to a Sidious that can stomp the Sidious that Yoda fought.

ROTJ Sidious>>ROTS Yoda>=ROTS Sidious>>>>>>>>>TCW Dooku.

Still Vader

I think Vader, but my mind can be changed

@mygod101:

The majority of users here detest me, there are but a select few who are friendly. I have no respect to lose, and the "respect" of a website status is meaningless in anycase.

Moreover, you claim I betray my reputation by making claims you perceive to be terribly wrong. But can I not say the same in regards to you? You are making claims I believe to be terribly wrong, and there are people who agree with me. This is inane logic.

The entire context of the interview in which Lucas made the 80% statement was ROTS, not ROTJ, and the context of the quote itself was potential, not power. And we know that in that very quote, Vader was "going" to be "extremely powerful." We know quite clearly that he lost his potential to surpass Sidious after ROTS. It makes no sense for Lucas to routinely hit upon that point only for Vader to still surpass the iteration of the Emperor referred to in his quote, and remain behind ROTJ Sidious by only a decent margin. And Vader was only in his 40s, Sidious was closer and closer to hitting his peak. By all logic Vader would have still surpassed even that Sidious.

Plus, if we want to get technical, the phrase "the Emperor" encompasses all iterations of Sidious that are in fact, the Emperor of the galaxy, which would include ROTS.

Without Force augmentation? Well duh, I doubt a peak human could do that, much less an 83 year old. But how strong someone is with the Force augmenting them is considered legitimate strength within the mythos, and it's the same with speed. Dooku, with Force-augmented strength, is comparable to AOTC Yoda in strength while exhausted. This is better than anything Vader has done.

Lol, Dooku has far superior TK feats. Years prior to ROTS, he was casually tossing around 215 meter korriban cruisers AND an unknown amount of other vehicles ranging from 40-70 meters. This is significantly better than any feat of Vader's.

LMFAO....My only reputation is telling the truth, so far I have upheld that. so, you can't really say anything about me on here as far as I am concerned.

He didn't lose his potential to surpass Sidious. Lucas clarified that when he said that Vader only lost about 40% of that potential which still leaves 60% left which is more than enough to surpass Sidious.

Dooku was 81, not 83, but still, keep making my case for me thank you. Since we are going to use ROTS Anakin, Obi-wan was keeping up with that Same Anakin in combat. After that duel, Yoda gave Obi-wan Special training with his Old Master Qui-Gon-Jin, which was much much stronger and more powerful. clearly, Obi-wan got stronger from just that training alone since he is able to handle a more mature Vader who is stronger in the force then he was.

BTW that same Obi-wan would defeat Dooku.

@lord_tenebrous: To respond to your comment about Dooku being exhausted. It seems to me that exhaustion isn't that big of a hinderance if you can successfully draw upon your power to use the force . I mean Anakin who had not slept or eaten in days (according to the ROTS novel)was capable of giving Obi Wan a good fight (and even gain an advantage on him at times during duel). Ki Adi Mundi and Shaak Ti could hold their own against Grievous on Hypori while "exhausted". Dooku can beat Obi Wan while fending of Anakin while "exhausted". Starkiller could content with and beat Vader while "exhausted" in TFU 2 etc.

What source states Yoda was weak in ROTS? Even if he was at some what of a disadvantage, Yoda still had a few years to grow from AOTC to ROTS. So a slightly disadvantaged ROTS Yoda can be>AOTC Yoda regardless.

Also who is Yoda likely to go all out on?

Dooku, a fallen Jedi whom Yoda very much respected, and admired him as if he was his own son.

Or Sidious, the most powerful sith lord in history, and the one who was responsible for bringing complete chaos and havoc to the galaxy. The point is, more was at stake when he faced Sidious. Which could explain why he did as well as he did against him even if he was at a "disadvantage".

I will recheck the dates but I swore they were post Disney.

Regardless that means one Disney quote states they were equals and 4 Legends one state the same. so in the end that prove legends version is slightly below Yoda and Diseny is arguable good enough to make Yoda work for it.

Either way better than anything Vader done IMO.

Honestly this all comes down to who has more exposure and who is more popular. The answere is Vader. Thats the only reason people are siding with him as by feats/sources of dueling abilities, accolades, and feats of the force Dooku is superior.

No. I'm siding with Vader because he's more impressive to me and he defeated Dooku at a younger age.

Which Disney quote states they were equals? The ones above are Legends. Yoda's clear superiority and the fact he wasn't trying to kill Dooku are both well established in Disney canon.

Yoda fights Count Dooku on Geonosis, forcing his former student to flee.

-Ultimate Star Wars.

Yoda leads an army of clone troopers against Separatist forces on Geonosis and defeats Dooku in lightsaber combat.

-Ultimate Star Wars.

The Jedi catch up with Dooku, but he reveals that he is the Sith Lord Darth Tyranus, the new apprentice of Darth Sidious. He easily defeats both Anakin and Obi-Wan. It is only the last minute intervention of Grand Master Yoda that saves them. Dooku is forced to flee, but his work is done.

-Star Wars: Galactic Atlas.

Yoda is half the size of Count Dooku, but has twice the power.

-Galaxy of Adventures Guide: Yoda.

Although the Republic is victorious, slippery Separatist leader Count Dooku escapes when Yoda is forced to choose between saving Anakin and Obi-Wan's lives, or capturing Dooku .

-Star Wars: The Visual Encyclopedia.

Yoda rescues Obi-Wan and Anakin, but Count Dooku evades capture.

-Star Wars: The Visual Encyclopedia.

Legends: Since this is where demigod Dooku resides, an argument could be made either way.

Canon: Vader wins every time. Superior strength, durability, stamina, dueling and Force ability all day. Also doesn't help that the match takes place in an empty hallway. A straight-up fight gives it decisively to Vader.

TourneyMaster said:

Blocking with Saber is not a strong argument as we seen characters hit Vader with Force lightning/electrcity attacks here and there in battles of both Legends and Canon. Its a major factor and something that Vader suit is weak too. Its a factor.

Not sure if serious, or...

Regardless that issue has been addressed. Relating to canon, Vader was only shown vulnerable to electricity from Palpatine's full power lightning, which is the strongest among the Sith, and even a lethal blow did not immobilize him until after he tossed Palps down the shaft. The first instance was immediately after Vader came off the operating table and was unarmed. It only put him on his knees, as Palpatine used it with the intent to discipline his new apprentice. AotC Kenobi deflected lightning with no effort and Vader is orders of magnitude his superior.

As for the matter of the actual lightning bolt, it could be argued Vader wasn't at peak performance. His armor had visible damage from the nine day hunt, and it was noted he had shut off his respirator to get the jump on Tarkin's group.

RGR also beat me to it and pointed out the error with those sources.

@rgr:

Two of your quotes contradict the film, and the remaining ones do not contrast the fact that Dooku is in the same tier as Yoda, in terms of saber skill. And I beg to differ in regards to the idea of Yoda holding back. Now, I do not know what you've read, but as per the official movie script, Yoda in this sequence was written as having lethal intent:

"YODA jumps onto DOOKU'S shoulders, and is about to drive the lightsaber into the top of the Count's head."

-- Attack of the Clones: Original Script

Which would make complete sense given that Yoda is the leader of an organization which demands zero attachments. And despite Yoda literally intending to KILL Dooku, not capture him, the good Count manages to hold out for nearly 40 seconds, fighting Yoda to a standstill. And while exhausted at that. There is, imo, no getting around that. Mace, Yoda, Sidious, Dooku... these guys are all demonstrably in the same tier.

@deadlyeyes:

Pardon my delay, I am currently compiling a response.

@deadlyeyes:

"To respond to your comment about Dooku being exhausted. It seems to me that exhaustion isn't that big of a hinderance if you can successfully draw upon your power to use the force." 

Well physical exhaustion isn't typically going to drastically hinder your power, however it is in fact a significant disadvantage. It impedes everything you do. You will lose focus, your balance and form will be off, it is much harder to move, it is harder to breathe, you become weaker, you become slower, it is harder to think, you become sloppy, are far more likely to slip up or make mistakes, etc. Many more things too. You just generally become worse in basically every regard. 

"I mean Anakin who had not slept or eaten in days (according to the ROTS novel)was capable of giving Obi Wan a good fight (and even gain an advantage on him at times during duel). Ki Adi Mundi and Shaak Ti could hold their own against Grievous on Hypori while "exhausted". Dooku can beat Obi Wan while fending of Anakin while 'exhausted.' Starkiller could content with and beat Vader while "exhausted" in TFU 2 etc."

Well, all these examples do not contradict the idea of exhaustion being disadvantageous, but rather, simply demonstrate just how good these opponents are. And it shows that they could perform better than what they did then, if the circumstances were even.

"What source states Yoda was weak in ROTS? "

Not that he was weak... just that he was weaker. And the source is The Jedi Path, an in-universe book about the ways of the Jedi. The book, in-universe, was passed down from Yoda, then Thame, then Dooku, then Qui-Gon, then Obi-Wan, then Anakin, then Ahsoka, then Sidious, then Luke. They each write the occasional comment next to certain paragraphs, depending on the topic. A certain chapter discusses the lifting of special meditation stones, and how the previous Grandmaster could lift a certain amount. Yoda comments that after the age of 700, he could no longer lift more than seven, iirc. Which demonstrates that he became past-prime at that point, and thus, is logically weaker as time passes. Thus, TPM Yoda > AOTC Yoda > ROTS Yoda. 

"Also who is Yoda likely to go all out on? Dooku, a fallen Jedi whom Yoda very much respected, and admired him as if he was his own son. Or Sidious, the most powerful sith lord in history, and the one who was responsible for bringing complete chaos and havoc to the galaxy. The point is, more was at stake when he faced Sidious. Which could explain why he did as well as he did against him even if he was at a 'disadvantage'."

I see your point but to be fair, the Jedi believed that the whole continuance of the war rested on Dooku's shoulders, and that eliminating him would end it prematurely. Hence why Coleman Trebor attempted to assassinate Dooku.

But this is all made irrelevent by the fact that the script demonstrates that Yoda was indeed trying to kill Dooku.

@rgr: the first qoute is a Encyc post Disney and TFA. States they fought to a draw. Re read it.

Most of your qoutes talk about Dooku escaping not that Yoda was overly superior.

Thats the point. Dooku is able to contend with Yoda and give Yoda hell in a fight. Thats the point.

@lord_tenebrous: The script isn't canon, as it contradicts the actual movie. These reference sources describe what actually happened on screen. It is explicitly stated Yoda wasn't going for the kill, but trying to capture Dooku, so really there is little debate.

@tourneymaster said:

Again, no, it's from 2013, as explained here.

@rgr: dont care what a script says only what various sources state and what is shown. Many things in a script get cut in films for reasons. Its unrealiable source.

Star Wars was bought in Oct 2012. This book was publish June 2013. 7 months after the buy out. Its canon as far as I am concern well past Disney buy out, and saying otherwise is really reaching.

That is literally the very thing I was saying:

See?

Yeah I misspoke, Star Wars was bought then. However, canon was redefined April 25, 2014, and all previous material was labelled Legends, which includes all those sources you presented. As you can see, the canon sources I provided myself state Yoda defeated Dooku in lightsaber combat and was trying to capture him, not kill him.

@rgr: I see what your saying now.

@richard96: Dooku's showing still has value, yes. As for Yoda trying his best to incapacitate him, I mean, it's possible. The junior novelization, which was re-released on May 2014 by Disney-Lucasfilm Press (contrary to the senior novelization, which remains Legends) has Yoda merely blocking Dooku's escape:

The Count’s attack grew more desperate, to no avail. Breathing hard, he backed away, but Yoda did not pursue him. To stop Dooku was all that was necessary, and he could not pass Yoda to reach his Solar Sailer.

-Star Wars: Prequel Trilogy, Episode II: Attack of the Clones.

@tourneymaster: No prob :)