Darth Vader replaces Dooku against Anakin & Obi wan on Oba Diah

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Suited Vader

  • Before uncovering more information, Obi wan and Anakin are interrupted by Darth Vader (Instead of Dooku)
  • Vader is at the peak of his suited, post ROTS power
  • The fight has all the same conditions as it did before, just with Vader taking the place of Dooku in the same location.
  • Vader will also be required to kill the Pyke leader once he shows up. (like Dooku did)
  • Like Dooku, Vader will be provided with a get away ship once his tasks are met.

Round 1: Legends

Round 2: Canon

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Vader.

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Vader for both, Legends doesn't really help the duo much cause as I recall for TCW supplement material, their feats don't stack up anyway.

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Vader is a slightly higher tier 8 than Savage Opress at the peak of his portrayal, and said version was already in the process of soloing 20 bby Obi-Wan & Anakin despite being hindered in a variety of ways.

If Vader's ultimate goal is escape, as Dooku's was, neither Jedi dies. Dooku, a far more lethal opponent, did not kill them. While Dooku was having an easy time, Vader will be challenged. He can escape, but only narrowly.

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Obi wan solos

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Either solos legends with no difficulty.

Don’t care about canon

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Either solos legends with no difficulty.

Don’t care about canon

How do either solo?

I guess ROTS versions might be discussion worthy, but this is quiet a bit before that.

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R1: Peak (pre-OT) Vader loses to either in an amazing fight. ROTJ dies badly.

R2: Team. Anakin and Obi-Wan are both significantly better swordsmen, and Vader's power edge won't be enough when he's fending off both attacking him like they did Dooku.

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#11  Edited By El_mago

R1: Vader loses badly if you take the fact this is a anakin post Theta storm feat if clone wars gambit is included, Kenobi just helps to get the fight over more soon than ever.

R2: Vader wins solidly based on his power edge over more stronger versions of both via scaling

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Either solos legends with no difficulty.

Don’t care about canon

Vader in canon is above his ROTS self. He destroys them.

Also, you are wrong about Legends too. Vader is not sub Jinn.

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#15 frozen  Moderator

@frozen said:
@greysentinel365 said:

Either solos legends with no difficulty.

Don’t care about canon

Vader in canon is above his ROTS self. He destroys them.

Also, you are wrong about Legends too. Vader is not sub Jinn.

Bro honestly, don't bother with Grey. I'm trying to help you lol.

Yeah you are right lol.

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#16  Edited By Greysentinel365

@mysterymeat: Because despite all the others whinging Vader is still locked below the TPM duo as per G-Canon. Although their tears are quite entertaining.

The only chance the cyborg has here is if “peak” refers to the RotJ version hopped up on “super energy” to save Luke. But even then he needed several minutes of charging to pull off what he did and died anyway. Which given several minutes to charge I can see either of these two doing.

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Vader actually kills them.

Ignorant of Legends tho.

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@w4nkdestroyer: No I mean, I am ignorant of Legends I did not read enough material , but I agree with you in canon.

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@w4nkdestroyer: No I mean, I am ignorant of Legends I did not read enough material , but I agree with you in canon.

There's a small minority of people who are pushing forward a false argument that suited Vader in Legends is below Qui Gon. I love Jinn, but its categorically untrue. So be wary of this misinformation.

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@mysterymeat: Because despite all the others whinging Vader is still locked below the TPM duo as per G-Canon. Although their tears are quite entertaining.

The only chance the cyborg has here is if “peak” refers to the RotJ version hopped up on “super energy” to save Luke. But even then he needed several minutes of charging to pull off what he did and died anyway. Which given several minutes to charge I can see either of these two doing.

Mind showing me the statement that Vader is < Qui Gon + Obi Wan?

George has gone on to say that Vader only had 80% of Sidious's potential and was comparable to Maul and Dooku, who should be capable of beating the TPM duo. At least Dooku should.

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Vader is a slightly higher tier 8 than Savage Opress at the peak of his portrayal, and said version was already in the process of soloing 20 bby Obi-Wan & Anakin despite being hindered in a variety of ways.

If Vader's ultimate goal is escape, as Dooku's was, neither Jedi dies. Dooku, a far more lethal opponent, did not kill them. While Dooku was having an easy time, Vader will be challenged. He can escape, but only narrowly.

1. Why do you say slightly higher? Not really soloing as he couldn't properly beat either and he was basically amped

2. I agree Dooku is more lethal but not by much

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Round 1: Team

Round 2: Vader

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vader solo they both

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Vader can definitely complete his tasks and hold off the Jedi long enough to escape, but he is not killing either of them in this fight