Darth Vader, Maul & Tyranus vs Obi Wan, Mace & Ahsoka

Darth Vader, Darth Maul and Darth Tyranus

Obi Wan, Ahsoka and Mace Windu

• The 3 Sith are at the peaks of their power, Vader is suited.
• ROTS Obi Wan and Mace, Ahsoka at her peak from the Rebels/Mando era.
• Everybody is ready to kill if needed, in character otherwise
• Canon versions only
• Fight happens here:

Callouts:

Happy May the 4th as well.

Oh damn, good matchup. I'm going with the Dark Side team for now, as I believe Dooku and Maul can beat Obi-Wan and Ahsoka, leaving Mace outnumbered.

Mmmmh....

Actually a great matchup. Gonna have to think on this one.

@kirkseven: Don’t tag me in canon threads please

Team Sith.

The way I'm seeing this is:

• Dooku > Obi
• Maul > Ashoka
• Vader v Mace = Mace wins if it's pure sabers, but Vader takes it if he abuses the force

Sith for certain. Vader is better than anyone here, and Dooku is better than or equal to everyone on the opposite team.

Vader>Mace~Dooku>Obi Wan~Maul>Ahsoka

Great fight, going with Team 2 though. Maul takes Ahsoka but the fight should last pretty long, Vader would beat Obi-Wan but Kenobi can hold his own for a good while assuming Vader doesn't abuse the Force. Mace Windu > anyone here, Dooku is going down pretty swiftly, definitely quicker than the other 2 matches. After this, Mace can help cleanup the others.

Is this Vader imediately after ROTS or prime Vader?

@w4nkdestroyer: Do you think Ahsoka beats prime Vader?

Prime Vader, as he was in the suit.

Its been suggested that KFV is better as a swordfighter in Disney canon and I didn't want people using him.

@w4nkdestroyer: How so?

@w4nkdestroyer: She contended but there was still a significant gap and we have no ideea how much she grew between Rebels and Mando. Growth is not linear. Her antifeats in Mando don't help either.

Do you think she is Yoda tier by Mando?

This is post-ROTS Vader, not prime Vader

@jedisympathiz3r: No no, this is Prime Vader.

Tough choice. I might pick the Sith though.

Team 2 mid diff

Mace & Dooku are the MVPS here, and by a great margin. Mace could subdue Vader and prime (TPM) Maul while Dooku slaughters Obi-Wan and prime (Mandalorian) Ahsoka. After that, it's a 1v1 and one that Mace wins every time. While Dooku is more experienced, Mace is stronger, faster, more agile, more skilled, and more powerful. Not to mention, Dooku lacks the stamina to truly compete for a lengthy period of time.

However, prime (ROTJ & TPM) Vader and Maul would be more than a match for prime (ROTS & Mandalorian) Obi-Wan and Ahsoka, though it's an exceedingly tough fight.

The Jedi.

Obi-Wan vs Maul, no brainer. Rebels Ahsoka already >> Maul, she beats him as of S7 and has grown alot then, and she will beat Dooku at this level. Between the 2 of them, these sith are done for.

This leaves Mace with Vader untill he is joined by the others. Ahsoka already contended with Prime Vader by herself, so he will fall with this amount of backup.

Wot a Wanker

Vader stomps.

@son_ofthe_force: everyone on team 2 individually can at least give him a good fight. Vader isn’t stomping

There's not a single scenario where someone gets stomped by an opposing team person.

@kirkseven: That’s what I’m saying

Its son_of_the_force we're talking about, so not surprised he said incoherent nonsense.

@jedisympathiz3r: Yeah, you're good.

eh vader can probably stomp obi wan, but other than that no stomps.

sith win

vader>mace

ahsoka~dooku

obi-wan>maul

but then vader faces obi wan and wins. having the strongest out of all fighters is important. 5/10 times, ahsoka beats dooku and teams up with obi wan. but then how many times out of 10 do they beat vader? probably 5/10 max. therefore, sith win ~7/10

You consider Prime Ahsoka > Maul and Vader? She's close but idk if I would consider her above Vader

Also Kenobi doesn't get stomped by anyone here, Dooku needed a distraction to ragdoll him and Vader didn't break his defenses in ANH. Both him and Ahsoka can hold off any sith long enough for Mace, who imo is above anyone else here, to score a victory, then turns into a 3v2 against 3 very powerful Jedi.

Team Sith

Ahsoka >I= Dooku (this is scaling off of her rebels self (Mando Ahsoka > Rebels Ahsoka) who performed very well against Vader while on a DS nexus, and only lost due to being physically overpowered rather than outskilled as opposed to Dooku who got outskilled by an inferior opponent that being early ROTS Anakin), I'll say this is a 50/50 fight

Obi Wan > Maul, I think sabers is in Obi Wan's favor, and while Maul is significantly above him in the force, I see him as more likely to engage in close quarters fighting which would end in him losing 6/10

Mace >I= Vader, I believe that Vader is extremely close in sabers and slightly above in the force. I believe that Mace's fight with Sidious is enough to give him the edge here for a 6/10 victory.

I believe the jedi team wins in the closet possible matchup

I don't really agree that force power directly translates to dueling skill, but honestly I'm not exactly sure whether Kenobi should be above or below Maul. I can be swayed either way.

Kenobi's feat against Anakin on mustafar has recently been confirmed in a new book to have been against a hindered Anakin which massively ruins the feat so I might actually place Maul above him in sabers and the force, but I really don't know.

@emmafrostxmen: Mace vs Vader is the one I'm not sure of.

Mace was confirmed to have nearly overpowered Sidious and forced him into a corner:

Mace has an accolade as being better duelist than Yoda

From one of the late 2020 guidebooks:

Though this above one contradicts other sources saying Mace is second to Yoda. The difference between Mace and Yoda in skill is clearly very minimal.

@frozen said:

@emmafrostxmen: Mace vs Vader is the one I'm not sure of.

Mace was confirmed to have nearly overpowered Sidious and forced him into a corner:

Mace has an accolade as being better duelist than Yoda

From one of the late 2020 guidebooks:

Though this above one contradicts other sources saying Mace is second to Yoda. The difference between Mace and Yoda in skill is clearly very minimal.

Yea I'm not really sure how that fight would go either tbh

@emmafrostxmen:

Kenobi's feat against Anakin on mustafar has recently been confirmed in a new book to have been against a hindered Anakin

Do you have a screenshot for this?

@frozen: Why is Maul>Ahsoka when she already has beaten him in a fight.

Because circumstances can lead to less powerful characters winning fights they normally wouldn't?

''Why is Maul > TPM Obi Wan when he already beat Maul in a fight''

^ would be a comparable question.

Context heavy.

Prime Maul is > Ashoka.