Darth Tyranus/Count Dooku
Rules
- EU Showings apply for Count Dooku
- Everyone is in character
- Characters are in their primes unless stated otherwise
- Start 10 feet apart
Dooku has a chance at defeating Vaylin if he forces her to duel him but more often than not, she overpowers him with the Force.
He can possibly defeat Novel Revan though.
Stops at valkorian, but has a chance at clearing. Vaylin will give him some trouble, but as powerful as she is she is really unrefined while dooku is one of the most refined. He destroys her in a duel. Novel Revan is pretty weak honestly, and not a very great dualist.
Ulic gives him decent issues but should ultimately lose
Done at Valiyn
Chained or unchained, Vaylin is way above novel Revan. Stops hard at Vaylin if she abuses the Force, or gets stomped at Valkorion if Vaylin focuses on using sabers.
@breakofdawn: @darthadi: What Vaylin can do against the Dooku?
@sheevsmacker: She's stronger by a decent margin.
@breakofdawn: what are feat and evidences?
@sheevsmacker: One-shotting Arcann, who could block FL capable of killing hundreds and overloading shuttles just via its side-effects (it wasn't even focused on them) and nearly killing post-SoR HoT/Outlander, reaching across a void that left the likes of Meetra, Revan, Scourge, and her chained self powerless to overload the Sanitorium's reactors from orbit, tanking the combined force of half a dozen energy conductors, a single one of which was capable of disintegrating Nathema zealots (powerful Force users who draw off the void) and the energy residue could have killed the weakened Outlander (who was protected by Valkorion), repeatedly beating the Outlander and nearly overpowering him in Ch.8, and one-shotting a manifestation of Valkorion's full power in Tenebrae.
Stops at Revan who should be swapped with Vaylin however:
Stops at Vaylin, who is above any incarnation of Revan.
SoR Revan is above Vaylin
Round 1 : Satele Shan: Dooku with difficulty
Round 2 : Lord Scourge: Dooku with moderate difficulty
Round 3 : Darth Malgus: Malgus with difficulty
Round 4 : Ulic Qel Droma: Ulic with much difficulty
Round 5 : Empress Vaylin: He makes her look like a child in the duel but she throws a fit and crushes him with the force.
Round 6 : Revan (Novel): Revan with minimal difficulty
Round 7 : Valkorian: Dooku would just join him rather than fight a hopeless battle.
dooku was always weaker than darth tyrannus, even if tyrannus was nerfed he was >>> this dooku, spite
@sheevsmacker: I beg your pardon?
@lord_tenebrous: gauntlet ordering is good i think and has pretty clear hierarchy
SWTOR and KOTOR scaling is a mess. It needs to all be redone, streamlined.
Finally something we agree on.
Now that the new legends meta is being implemented, we can get working on redefining this terrible TOR scaling.
Probably stops at 3. If not, then he definitely stops at 5.
3 probably, 5 for sure
Reasoning for Malgus potentially beating Dooku but Ulic doesn't? Why do you guys put Malgus above Ulic?
@darthor: I don’t know enough about Ulic to make a case for him so I’m saying that the lowest person that can stop Dooku is Malgus and if he doesn’t then Dooku is definitely not moving past Vaylin with full certainty.
@darthor: I don’t know enough about Ulic to make a case for him so I’m saying that the lowest person that can stop Dooku is Malgus and if he doesn’t then Dooku is definitely not moving past Vaylin with full certainty.
ah ok. But I do have Ulic slightly above Malgus
SWTOR and KOTOR scaling is a mess. It needs to all be redone, streamlined.
Finally something we agree on.
Now that the new legends meta is being implemented, we can get working on redefining this terrible TOR scaling.
I was referring to how sloppy the games themselves have been with their power scaling, not necessarily the fans' interpretation of said scaling -- though that too can be flawed.
I do not treat legends as an active continuity that can be structurally altered in the present day beyond making it canon again, so Leland Chee's comment does not affect my perspective.
@darthor: I don’t know enough about Ulic to make a case for him so I’m saying that the lowest person that can stop Dooku is Malgus and if he doesn’t then Dooku is definitely not moving past Vaylin with full certainty.
ah ok. But I do have Ulic slightly above Malgus
Interesting. What are your reasons?
@darthor: I don’t know enough about Ulic to make a case for him so I’m saying that the lowest person that can stop Dooku is Malgus and if he doesn’t then Dooku is definitely not moving past Vaylin with full certainty.
ah ok. But I do have Ulic slightly above Malgus
Interesting. What are your reasons?
A lot of reasons actually. I will take some time to make a compelling case
I personally think he stops at Ulic. I know Ulic doesn't have much going for him feat-wise, but I think Ulic is way too similar to Anakin. They're both young, aggressive and powerful, and I think that Ulic could hold Dooku off long enough for Dooku to lose stamina and make mistakes.
@lord_tenebrous: where would you put it? I kinda like it where it is.
Round 1 : Satele Shan: Dooku with difficulty
Round 2 : Lord Scourge: Dooku with moderate difficulty
Round 3 : Darth Malgus: Malgus with difficulty
Round 4 : Ulic Qel Droma: Ulic with much difficulty
Round 5 : Empress Vaylin: He makes her look like a child in the duel but she throws a fit and crushes him with the force.
Round 6 : Revan (Novel): Revan with minimal difficulty
Round 7 : Valkorian: Dooku would just join him rather than fight a hopeless battle.
Again, are you implying Malgus > Ulic? Why will you think that?
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