Darth Plageuis and Darth Sidious vs Yoda and Mace Windu (Read)

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Neutral ground, no home advantages. No removal from battlefield, no incapacitation/KO wins.

No morals, no one is holding back. No internal conflicts, no willing deaths.

Everyone is out to win 100% focused.

Team with the last man/men standing win.

Plaguies (TPM) and Sidious (RoTS) vs Yoda (RoTS) and Mace (RoTS)

Round 1 - Sabers only

Round 2 - Force only

Round 3 - Force and Sabers

Round 4 - R3 rules - But Sith Prime Maul (CW) and Prime Dooku (CW), Jedi get ROTJ Luke and ANH Obi Wan.

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1) Team Jedi

2) Team Sith

3) Team SIth in an epic contest.

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Plagueis is out of his depth here. And costs his side rounds 1-3

R4 however goes in the Siths favour. Dooku, Maul or Hego wipe out the OT duo and then Yoda&Mace get dogpiled.

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@g_race said:

1) Team Jedi

2) Team Sith

3) Team SIth in an epic contest.

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@greysentinel365: Why is Plageuis out of his depth? Explain? He is arguably the greatest force user here.

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@b3lial: Hegos only scaling is to TPM Palpatine prior to him killing him. Immediately after this Palps basically doubles in power from absorbing Plagueis' power and the Dark Side refocusing on him.

A tremor took hold of the planet.

Sprung from death, it unleashed itself in a powerful wave, at once burrowing deep into the world’s core and radiating through its saccharine atmosphere to shake the stars themselves. At the quake’s epicenter stood Sidious, one elegant hand vised on the burnished sill of an expansive translucency, a vessel filled suddenly to bursting, the Force so strong within him that he feared he might disappear into it, never to return. But the moment didn’t constitute an ending so much as a true beginning, long overdue; it was less a transformation than an intensification—a gravitic shift.

A welter of voices, near and far, present and from eons past, drowned his thoughts. Raised in praise, the voices proclaimed his reign and cheered the inauguration of a new order. Yellow eyes lifted to the night sky, he saw the trembling stars flare, and in the depth of his being he felt the power of the dark side anoint him.

Slowly, almost reluctantly, he came back to himself, his gaze settling on his manicured hands. Returned to the present, he took note of his rapid breathing, while behind him the room labored to restore order. Air scrubbers hummed—costly wall tapestries undulating in the summoned breeze. Prized carpets sealed their fibers against the spread of spilled fluids. The droid shuffled in obvious confliction. Sidious pivoted to take in the disarray: antique furniture overturned; framed artwork askew. As if a whirlwind had swept through. And facedown on the floor lay a statue of Yanjon, one of four law-giving sages of Dwartii.

A piece Sidious had secretly coveted.

Also sprawled there, Plagueis: his slender limbs splayed and elongated head turned to one side. Dressed in finery, as for a night on the town.

And now dead.

Or was he?

Uncertainty rippled through Sidious, rage returning to his eyes. A tremor of his own making, or one of forewarning? Was it possible that the wily Muun had deceived him? Had Plagueis unlocked the key to immortality, and survived after all? Never mind that it would constitute a petty move for one so wise—for one who had professed to place the Grand Plan above all else. Had Plagueis become ensnared in a self-spun web of jealousy and possessiveness, victim of his own engineering, his own foibles?

If he hadn’t been concerned for his own safety, Sidious might have pitied him. Wary of approaching the corpse of his former Master, he called on the Force to roll the aged Muun over onto his back. From that angle Plagueis looked almost as he had when Sidious first met him, decades earlier: smooth, hairless cranium; humped nose, with its bridge flattened as if from a shock-ball blow and its sharp tip pressed almost to his upper lip; jutting lower jaw; sunken eyes still brimming with menace—a physical characteristic rarely encountered in a Muun. But then Plagueis had never been an ordinary Muun, nor an ordinary being of any sort.

Sidious took care, still reaching out with the Force. On closer inspection, he saw that Plagueis’s already cyanotic flesh was smoothing out, his features relaxing.

Faintly aware of the whir of air scrubbers and sounds of the outside world infiltrating the luxurious suite, he continued the vigil; then, in relief, he pulled himself up to his full height and let out his breath. This was no Sith trick. Not an instance of feigning death, but one of succumbing to its cold embrace. The being who had guided him to power was gone.

Wry amusement narrowed his eyes.

The Muun might have lived another hundred years unchanged. He might have lived forever had he succeeded fully in his quest. But in the end—though he could save others from death—he had failed to save himself.

A sense of supreme accomplishment puffed Sidious’s chest, and his thoughts unreeled.

Well, then, that wasn’t nearly as bad as we thought it might be...

Rarely did events play out as imagined, in any case. The order of future events was transient. In the same way that the past was reconfigured by selective memory, future events, too, were moving targets. One could only act on instinct, grab hold of an intuited perfect moment, and spring into action. One heartbeat late and the universe would have recomposed itself, no imposition of will sufficient to forestall the currents. One could only observe and react. Surprise was the element absent from any periodic table. A keystone element; a missing ingredient. The means by which the Force amused itself. A reminder to all sentient beings that some secrets could never be unlocked.

Confident that the will of the dark side had been done, he returned to the suite’s window wall. Two beings in a galaxy of countless trillions, but what had transpired in the suite would affect the lives of all of them. Already the galaxy had been shaped by the birth of one, and henceforth would be reshaped by the death of the other. But had the change been felt and recognized elsewhere? Were his sworn enemies aware that the Force had shifted irrevocably? Would it be enough to rouse them from self-righteousness? He hoped not. For now the work of vengeance could begin in earnest.

His eyes sought and found an ascending constellation of stars, one of power and consequence new to the sky, though soon to be overwhelmed by dawn’s first light. Low in the sky over the flatlands, visible only to those who knew where and how to look, it ushered in a bold future. To some the stars and planets might seem to be moving as ever, destined to align in configurations calculated long before their fiery births. But in fact the heavens had been perturbed, tugged by dark matter into novel alignments. In his mouth, Sidious tasted the tang of blood; in his chest, he felt the monster rising, emerging from shadowy depths and contorting his aspect into something fearsome just short of revealing itself to the world.

The dark side had made him its property, and now he made the dark side his.

Breathless, not from exertion but from the sudden inspiration of power, he let go of the sill and allowed the monster to writhe through his body like an unbroken beast of range or prairie.

Had the Force ever been so strong in anyone?

Sidious had never learned how Plagueis’s own Master had met his end. Had he died at Plagueis’s hand? Had Plagueis, too, experienced a similar exultation on becoming a sole Sith Lord? Had the beast of the end time risen then to peek at the world it was to inhabit, knowing its release was imminent?

--Darth Plagueis

Sheev then grows massively through the PT up to RotS which is the version Mace and Yoda scale to.

Chancellor Palpatine’s strength in the Force grows throughout the years leading up to the Great Jedi Purge and the formation of the Galactic Empire.

Beyond the vision of the Jedi Knights, somewhere within the darkness, the greatest master of evil ever to use Sith power bides his time. As his strength grows, his plans begin to shape the course of the galaxy, and his snares await the unsuspecting.

--The Complete Visual Dictionary

To Mace's Force perception, the world crystallized around them, becoming a gem of reality shot through with flaws and fault lines of possibility. This was Mace's particular gift: to see how people and situations fit together in the Force, to find the shear planes that can cause them to break in useful ways, and to intuit what sort of strike would best make the cut. Though he could not consistently determine the significance of the structures he perceived—the darkening cloud upon the Force that had risen with the rebirth of the Sith made that harder and harder with each passing day—the presence of shatterpoints was always clear.

--Revenge of the Sith novelization

Over the next decade Palpatine grew more secure in his power.

--Databank: Darth Sidious/Emperor Palpatine

Only the Jedi were not surprised. For on Geonosis, Obi-Wan Kenobi and his Padawan apprentice, Anakin Skywalker, had learned that Count Dooku had turned to the dark side of the Force — and the power of the dark side had been growing for years. The Jedi knew that defeating the Separatists would be neither quick nor easy with a Dark Lord of the Sith aiding them.

--Revenge of the Sith junior novelization

Strong, this Sith Lord is, Yoda thought as their lightsabers whirled and clashed and whirled again. It should not have been a surprise. With the strength of the dark side growing, the Sith must, logically, have grown stronger, too.

--Revenge of the Sith junior novelization

Note: The quotes that states the darkening cloud in the Force is strengthening every day are in fact referring to Palpatine also, since Sidious is the source of the shroud. Therefore, per the second quote, Sidious was growing in power every single day by a noticeable degree, as evidenced in Mace Windu’s ability to note this. A noticeable increase in power every single day for over a decade would amount to quite a monumental increase overall.

So yeah Hego is out of his depth here.

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@greysentinel365: im not sure I agree about being out of his depth.. He is a 9 saber dualist. heavily experienced force user.

In your own words can you explain? Im curious.

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@g_race: One comment above yours I provide sources and reasoning. Plagueis has zero accolades placing him as 9. In fact he has no number rankings at all. At most he scales to beginning of TPM Sidious who is below Maul who as of that time has the most “best saber duelist” in the galaxy quotes to his name

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Plaggy lacks the feats, but through scaling he should be at their level, but considering he is inferior to TPM Sids I think the Jedi can at least take R1 and R3 (arguably), R2 is a toss-up.

R4 goes to Sith potentially as ANH Kenobi seems to be out of his depth

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Realizing that the fight could go on indefinitely, he took himself out of his body and began working his material self like a marionette, no longer on the offensive, instigating attacks, but merely responding to Venamis's lunges and strikes. Gradually the Bith understood that something had changed-that what up until then had been a fight to the death seemed suddenly like a training exercise. Exasperated, he doubled his efforts, fighting harder, more desperately, putting more power into each maneuver and blow, and in the end surrendering his precision and accuracy.

At the height of Venamis's attack, Plagueis came back into himself with such fury that his lightsaber became a blinding rod. A two-handed upward swing launched from between his legs caught Venamis off guard.

Darth Plagueis Novel

Once Plagueis used his true skills, Venamis was outmatched in lightsaber duel.

In addition to that, the writer of the Darth Plagueis novel states that Plagueis would defeat TPM Sidious in a duel, who is at this point powerful enough to defeat TPM Maul (who is a tier 8 duelist) with only taking a hand bleed in return, true Maul was amped in the duel, however Maul was also wounded and starving.

Q: Do you feel that, had it come to a contest of lightsabers or Force powers, Sidious would have prevailed anyway?

A: If it had come to a duel, I think Plagueis may have found a way to undermine his apprentice

James Luceno, Facebook Q&A
Just feels like he is a 9 to me, but not alot to pull from.
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@g_race:

Once Plagueis used his true skills, Venamis was outmatched in lightsaber duel.

Venamis only scales to Tenebrous and to very early Plagueis. He's not relevant here.

In addition to that, the writer of the Darth Plagueis novel states that Plagueis would defeat TPM Sidious in a duel

No he said he may have found a way to undermine BoTPM Sidious. It would have been uphill considering at this point Sidious was more powerful

Meet Darth Sidious – the most powerful Sith Master who ever lived.

--Darth Maul, Sith Apprentice

And all this is rendered irrelevant by Palpatine roughly doubling in power after killing Hego as I detailed above and then growing for 13 more years after that into RotS. Hego gets smacked by EoTPM Sidious. RotS kills him with his mere presence.

who is at this point powerful enough to defeat TPM Maul (who is a tier 8 duelist) with only taking a hand bleed in return, true Maul was amped in the duel, however Maul was also wounded and starving.

You have your timelines majorly mixed up. The duel you're reffering to takes place years before TPM and Maul is stated to grow in power significantly several times past that amped state. TPM Maul is the best duelist in the galaxy and just as powerful as Sidious

''His skills as a warrior were nonpareil.''

-- Darth Maul: Shadow Hunter

''Your skill as a sword master is peerless.''

-- Darth Maul: Saboteur

''An incredible duelist second only, perhaps, to Darth Sidious, Darth Maul honed his lightsaber skills through a lifetime of training against advanced sparring droids.''

-- Star Wars Chronicles: The Prequels

Second, there's the criminal syndicate Black Sun, which threatens to complicate Darth Sidious' plan. His solution: to dispatch the deadliest Sith warrior in the galaxy.

https://web.archive.org/web/20050205133641/http://www.starwars.com/eu/lit/comics/news20000605.html

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Which in fact makes Sidious (and Hego) as of this time at the bottom end of Tier 8 (as Maul is near equaled by high 7s like Jinn and TPM Kenobi)

Again, Plagueis is irrelevant in this contest and is vastly outscaled by Yoda or Mace who frankly oneshot.

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It would be an exceptionally interesting battle, considering the depth of their knowledge of the Force. Master Yoda essentially fought Darth Sidious to a draw, as did Mace Windu -- however, in the latter confrontation, Mace's own unique Force talents paired with the circumstances of their battle allowed him to pull a win. Darth Plagueis is the most ancient and practiced Force wielder here, save Yoda, and was about even with Sidious overall during the Naboo Crisis. The elder Muun is possibly more powerful than Mace, but the Korun Master would be more skilled. Plagueis is sort of akin to Obi-Wan Kenobi in terms of his tactical approach to swordfighting, but I don't believe he can outfox or outmaneuver someone like Mace.

All in all, I'd favour the Jedi Masters over the Dark Lords, close though it may be.

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@b3lial: Hegos only scaling is to TPM Palpatine prior to him killing him. Immediately after this Palps basically doubles in power from absorbing Plagueis' power and the Dark Side refocusing on him.

A tremor took hold of the planet.

Sprung from death, it unleashed itself in a powerful wave, at once burrowing deep into the world’s core and radiating through its saccharine atmosphere to shake the stars themselves. At the quake’s epicenter stood Sidious, one elegant hand vised on the burnished sill of an expansive translucency, a vessel filled suddenly to bursting, the Force so strong within him that he feared he might disappear into it, never to return. But the moment didn’t constitute an ending so much as a true beginning, long overdue; it was less a transformation than an intensification—a gravitic shift.

A welter of voices, near and far, present and from eons past, drowned his thoughts. Raised in praise, the voices proclaimed his reign and cheered the inauguration of a new order. Yellow eyes lifted to the night sky, he saw the trembling stars flare, and in the depth of his being he felt the power of the dark side anoint him.

Slowly, almost reluctantly, he came back to himself, his gaze settling on his manicured hands. Returned to the present, he took note of his rapid breathing, while behind him the room labored to restore order. Air scrubbers hummed—costly wall tapestries undulating in the summoned breeze. Prized carpets sealed their fibers against the spread of spilled fluids. The droid shuffled in obvious confliction. Sidious pivoted to take in the disarray: antique furniture overturned; framed artwork askew. As if a whirlwind had swept through. And facedown on the floor lay a statue of Yanjon, one of four law-giving sages of Dwartii.

A piece Sidious had secretly coveted.

Also sprawled there, Plagueis: his slender limbs splayed and elongated head turned to one side. Dressed in finery, as for a night on the town.

And now dead.

Or was he?

Uncertainty rippled through Sidious, rage returning to his eyes. A tremor of his own making, or one of forewarning? Was it possible that the wily Muun had deceived him? Had Plagueis unlocked the key to immortality, and survived after all? Never mind that it would constitute a petty move for one so wise—for one who had professed to place the Grand Plan above all else. Had Plagueis become ensnared in a self-spun web of jealousy and possessiveness, victim of his own engineering, his own foibles?

If he hadn’t been concerned for his own safety, Sidious might have pitied him. Wary of approaching the corpse of his former Master, he called on the Force to roll the aged Muun over onto his back. From that angle Plagueis looked almost as he had when Sidious first met him, decades earlier: smooth, hairless cranium; humped nose, with its bridge flattened as if from a shock-ball blow and its sharp tip pressed almost to his upper lip; jutting lower jaw; sunken eyes still brimming with menace—a physical characteristic rarely encountered in a Muun. But then Plagueis had never been an ordinary Muun, nor an ordinary being of any sort.

Sidious took care, still reaching out with the Force. On closer inspection, he saw that Plagueis’s already cyanotic flesh was smoothing out, his features relaxing.

Faintly aware of the whir of air scrubbers and sounds of the outside world infiltrating the luxurious suite, he continued the vigil; then, in relief, he pulled himself up to his full height and let out his breath. This was no Sith trick. Not an instance of feigning death, but one of succumbing to its cold embrace. The being who had guided him to power was gone.

Wry amusement narrowed his eyes.

The Muun might have lived another hundred years unchanged. He might have lived forever had he succeeded fully in his quest. But in the end—though he could save others from death—he had failed to save himself.

A sense of supreme accomplishment puffed Sidious’s chest, and his thoughts unreeled.

Well, then, that wasn’t nearly as bad as we thought it might be...

Rarely did events play out as imagined, in any case. The order of future events was transient. In the same way that the past was reconfigured by selective memory, future events, too, were moving targets. One could only act on instinct, grab hold of an intuited perfect moment, and spring into action. One heartbeat late and the universe would have recomposed itself, no imposition of will sufficient to forestall the currents. One could only observe and react. Surprise was the element absent from any periodic table. A keystone element; a missing ingredient. The means by which the Force amused itself. A reminder to all sentient beings that some secrets could never be unlocked.

Confident that the will of the dark side had been done, he returned to the suite’s window wall. Two beings in a galaxy of countless trillions, but what had transpired in the suite would affect the lives of all of them. Already the galaxy had been shaped by the birth of one, and henceforth would be reshaped by the death of the other. But had the change been felt and recognized elsewhere? Were his sworn enemies aware that the Force had shifted irrevocably? Would it be enough to rouse them from self-righteousness? He hoped not. For now the work of vengeance could begin in earnest.

His eyes sought and found an ascending constellation of stars, one of power and consequence new to the sky, though soon to be overwhelmed by dawn’s first light. Low in the sky over the flatlands, visible only to those who knew where and how to look, it ushered in a bold future. To some the stars and planets might seem to be moving as ever, destined to align in configurations calculated long before their fiery births. But in fact the heavens had been perturbed, tugged by dark matter into novel alignments. In his mouth, Sidious tasted the tang of blood; in his chest, he felt the monster rising, emerging from shadowy depths and contorting his aspect into something fearsome just short of revealing itself to the world.

The dark side had made him its property, and now he made the dark side his.

Breathless, not from exertion but from the sudden inspiration of power, he let go of the sill and allowed the monster to writhe through his body like an unbroken beast of range or prairie.

Had the Force ever been so strong in anyone?

Sidious had never learned how Plagueis’s own Master had met his end. Had he died at Plagueis’s hand? Had Plagueis, too, experienced a similar exultation on becoming a sole Sith Lord? Had the beast of the end time risen then to peek at the world it was to inhabit, knowing its release was imminent?

--Darth Plagueis

Sheev then grows massively through the PT up to RotS which is the version Mace and Yoda scale to.

Chancellor Palpatine’s strength in the Force grows throughout the years leading up to the Great Jedi Purge and the formation of the Galactic Empire.

Beyond the vision of the Jedi Knights, somewhere within the darkness, the greatest master of evil ever to use Sith power bides his time. As his strength grows, his plans begin to shape the course of the galaxy, and his snares await the unsuspecting.

--The Complete Visual Dictionary

To Mace's Force perception, the world crystallized around them, becoming a gem of reality shot through with flaws and fault lines of possibility. This was Mace's particular gift: to see how people and situations fit together in the Force, to find the shear planes that can cause them to break in useful ways, and to intuit what sort of strike would best make the cut. Though he could not consistently determine the significance of the structures he perceived—the darkening cloud upon the Force that had risen with the rebirth of the Sith made that harder and harder with each passing day—the presence of shatterpoints was always clear.

--Revenge of the Sith novelization

Over the next decade Palpatine grew more secure in his power.

--Databank: Darth Sidious/Emperor Palpatine

Only the Jedi were not surprised. For on Geonosis, Obi-Wan Kenobi and his Padawan apprentice, Anakin Skywalker, had learned that Count Dooku had turned to the dark side of the Force — and the power of the dark side had been growing for years. The Jedi knew that defeating the Separatists would be neither quick nor easy with a Dark Lord of the Sith aiding them.

--Revenge of the Sith junior novelization

Strong, this Sith Lord is, Yoda thought as their lightsabers whirled and clashed and whirled again. It should not have been a surprise. With the strength of the dark side growing, the Sith must, logically, have grown stronger, too.

--Revenge of the Sith junior novelization

Note: The quotes that states the darkening cloud in the Force is strengthening every day are in fact referring to Palpatine also, since Sidious is the source of the shroud. Therefore, per the second quote, Sidious was growing in power every single day by a noticeable degree, as evidenced in Mace Windu’s ability to note this. A noticeable increase in power every single day for over a decade would amount to quite a monumental increase overall.

So yeah Hego is out of his depth here.

Where does it say his power doubled? Specifically, what part?

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Plagueis is out of his depth here. And costs his side rounds 1-3

R4 however goes in the Siths favour. Dooku, Maul or Hego wipe out the OT duo and then Yoda&Mace get dogpiled.

ANH Kenobi is said to be equal to ANH Sidious, who is above anyone here. ROTJ Luke is equal to ROTJ Vader who is above anyone here.

Yoda and Mace already win on all rounds. Adding Maul and Dooku doesn't change anything. In fact, it likely makes it worse.

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Plagueis is out of his depth here. And costs his side rounds 1-3

R4 however goes in the Siths favour. Dooku, Maul or Hego wipe out the OT duo and then Yoda&Mace get dogpiled.

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Why on earth is plagueis being lowballed? He is demonstrably one of the most powerful sith with the feats to match and is a highly talented duelist with one of the best dueling feats in that era if not the entire mythos; Venamis was literally switching forms mid-swing and was trained specifically how to beat him and Plagueis practically no-diffs him.

Yes, Yoda and Mace are the far better duelists than both but he definitely gives them both contention; dare I say even better than Sidious who got disarmed by both of them. Yoda probably still stomps but.....its yoda.

In an all out fight id favor the sith more due to how overwhelmingly powerful Plagueis is and when paired with Sidious they prove to be the stronger duo. Supremacy statements as always are being held in too high regard; while I do think Sidious gained the appropriate knowledge to be above Plagueis I don't think he fully surpassed him until RoTS and certainly isnt THAT much stronger than him. If Yoda and Sidious are 10, then Mace is 9 and Plagueis is like 9.7

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Plagueis is so vastly overmatched by the two jedi he costs his team the victory across all rounds

there is no simple way of putting him higher than them in any given time

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#19  Edited By B3LIAL

Interesting little argument we have going on here.... I'm still trying to figure out why some people think Palps doubled in power after Plageuis died?

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The only way team Sith has a chance of winning is via MM, they are outmatched conventionally and especially in sabers. Luke and Ben are not factors whatsoever.

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#21  Edited By dark_globe

jedi team wins rounds 1 and 3 .
round 2 is up for a debate due to RoTS sheev being the strongest force user here .
round 4 - adding those fighters only solidifies victory for team jedi even further .
RoTJ luke beats either maul or dooku in 1v1 situation ,
he can probably take down plagueis in 1v1 as well
(plagueis has no time and no room to prepare some force tricks for luke here) .
ANH ben is no joke either .

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jedi team wins rounds 1 and 3 .

round 2 is up for a debate due to RoTS sheev being the strongest force user here .

round 4 - adding those fighters only solidifies victory for team jedi even further .

RoTJ luke beats either maul or dooku in 1v1 situation ,

he can probably take down plagueis in 1v1 as well

(plagueis has no time and no room to prepare some force tricks for luke here) .

ANH ben is no joke either .

Does he? Who did ROTJ beat? A conflicted Vader?

Maul and Dooku are far more experienced duelists.

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#23  Edited By dark_globe
@b3lial said:

Does he? Who did ROTJ beat? A conflicted Vader?

Maul and Dooku are far more experienced duelists.

yeah he does .
don´t get me wrong i don´t like this idea either , but apparently RoTJ vader is confirmed to be
stronger than KF vader and RoTS sidious at this point and given the fact luke beats him
places RoTJ luke well above the likes of maul and dooku .
of course we can speculate to what degree vader is conflicted in that fight but he is still very powerful .

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I'm still trying to figure out why some people think Palps doubled in power after Plageuis died?

To keep it simple, Sheev became the focal point of the dark side upon killing Hego, as they were near equal in power (with Plagueis being slightly inferior) taking in all of the energy from Hego would therefore double his power. Upon this happening the balance in the galaxy was permanently shifted

Confident that the will of the dark side had been done, he returned to the suite’s window wall. Two beings in a galaxy of countless trillions, but what had transpired in the suite would affect the lives of all of them. Already the galaxy had been shaped by the birth of one, and henceforth would be reshaped by the death of the other. But had the change been felt and recognized elsewhere? Were his sworn enemies aware that the Force had shifted irrevocably? Would it be enough to rouse them from self-righteousness? He hoped not. For now the work of vengeance could begin in earnest.

Darth Plagueis

Something that had take a combined effort from the two before

All that mattered was that, almost a decade earlier, they had succeeded in willing the Force to shift and tip irrevocably to the dark side. Not a mere paradigm shift, but a tangible alteration that could be felt by anyone strong in the Force, and whether or not trained in the Sith or Jedi arts.

The shift had been the outcome of months of intense meditation, during which Plagueis and Sidious had sought to challenge the Force for sovereignty and suffuse the galaxy with the power of the dark side. Brazen and shameless, and at their own mortal peril, they had waged etheric war, anticipating that their own midi-chlorians, the Force’s proxy army, might marshal to boil their blood or stop the beating of their hearts. Risen out of themselves, discorporate and as a single entity, they had brought the power of their will to bear, asserting their sovereignty over the Force. No counterforce had risen against them. In what amounted to a state of rapture they knew that the Force had yielded, as if some deity had been tipped from its throne. On the fulcrum they had fashioned, the light side had dipped and the dark side had ascended.

Darth Plagueis

This is further reinforced by the dark side cloud around the galaxy remaining at the same strength as it was with both of them alive and then growing past that

Sprung from death, it unleashed itself in a powerful wave, at once burrowing deep into the world’s core and radiating through its saccharine atmosphere to shake the stars themselves. At the quake’s epicenter stood Sidious, one elegant hand vised on the burnished sill of an expansive translucency, a vessel filled suddenly to bursting, the Force so strong within him that he feared he might disappear into it, never to return. But the moment didn’t constitute an ending so much as a true beginning, long overdue; it was less a transformation than an intensification—a gravitic shift.

Darth Plagueis

For a decade, there was no physical signs of the remaining Dark Lord, but evidence of his power began to appear.The Jedi ability to use the Force inexplicably began to diminish.

--Databank (2008): The Jedi Order

To Mace's Force perception, the world crystallized around them, becoming a gem of reality shot through with flaws and fault lines of possibility. This was Mace's particular gift: to see how people and situations fit together in the Force, to find the shear planes that can cause them to break in useful ways, and to intuit what sort of strike would best make the cut. Though he could not consistently determine the significance of the structures he perceived—the darkening cloud upon the Force that had risen with the rebirth of the Sith made that harder and harder with each passing day—the presence of shatterpoints was always clear.

--Revenge of the Sith novelization

So yeah Hego isn't doing anything here. He's vastly outpowered by the Jedi team who scale to RotS Sidious.

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Jedi team takes rounds 1 and 3, the Sith takes round 2 but not very easy. Round 4 is more tricky, can go both ways, great choice of characters. But Jedi probably snatch the victory at the end, not without losses however, is very close.

Sidious and Plagueis kinda departed from the rule of two established by Bane, with his apprentice Zannah. Bane intended an eventual direct, face to face clash between master and apprentice, for the supreme title, using all their power and skills and more exotic abilities to see who's the most powerful and take (or keep) the mantle of master of Sith order.

While he appreciated some cunning and patience to be taken down, he also wanted a fight when the master is still around his prime and can fight back a direct challenge, so the actual stronger Sith to win and carry on the plan. His apprentice, Zannah, respected that, she refused to kill him when she could, but thought she still have to learn some more from him and challenged him just when herself consider she is ready, and after she learned he want o "cheat" the rules and become immortal with that "essence transfer". Bane also thought she want to cheat a little by waiting longer so he become weaker with the age, thing is that they fight as he intended, with hims still in power and she feeling ready to take over so Zannah also respected the idea behind the "rule of two".

However by the time of Plagueis and Sidious, while the principle of rule of two was still kinda there, at least some of the principal bases where thrown thru the window. Main thing was that they weren't anymore abiding by the principle of the apprentice challenging the master in a direct, face to face fight, but resorted to underhand, even cowardly moves (iirc Sidious killed his master after he get drunk and asleep).

As such the Sith were somehow weaker in direct combat, very likely lacking some other knowledge and abilities with the force as well compared with those at the beginning of rule of two. They were more powerful as influence behind the curtains, as political, financial, even military realms, they managed to maneuver secretly in positions of power that will allow them to grab the power from within and use the means of Republic against the Jedi order. But as direct personal powers and abilities, with few exceptions in some aspects, they were weaker than at the beginning.

Thats why Sidious barely took a draw vs Yoda and was eventually overcome d by Mace (a bit debatable if he actually intended that or not) and his apprentices neither managed to score big victories vs accomplished Jedi's. Jedi themselves were however weaker and complacent after a thousand years of supposedly peace and absence of Sith, they barely had any experience vs such powerful rivals.

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@b3lial: Hegos only scaling is to TPM Palpatine prior to him killing him. Immediately after this Palps basically doubles in power from absorbing Plagueis' power and the Dark Side refocusing on him.

A tremor took hold of the planet.

Sprung from death, it unleashed itself in a powerful wave, at once burrowing deep into the world’s core and radiating through its saccharine atmosphere to shake the stars themselves. At the quake’s epicenter stood Sidious, one elegant hand vised on the burnished sill of an expansive translucency, a vessel filled suddenly to bursting, the Force so strong within him that he feared he might disappear into it, never to return. But the moment didn’t constitute an ending so much as a true beginning, long overdue; it was less a transformation than an intensification—a gravitic shift.

A welter of voices, near and far, present and from eons past, drowned his thoughts. Raised in praise, the voices proclaimed his reign and cheered the inauguration of a new order. Yellow eyes lifted to the night sky, he saw the trembling stars flare, and in the depth of his being he felt the power of the dark side anoint him.

Slowly, almost reluctantly, he came back to himself, his gaze settling on his manicured hands. Returned to the present, he took note of his rapid breathing, while behind him the room labored to restore order. Air scrubbers hummed—costly wall tapestries undulating in the summoned breeze. Prized carpets sealed their fibers against the spread of spilled fluids. The droid shuffled in obvious confliction. Sidious pivoted to take in the disarray: antique furniture overturned; framed artwork askew. As if a whirlwind had swept through. And facedown on the floor lay a statue of Yanjon, one of four law-giving sages of Dwartii.

A piece Sidious had secretly coveted.

Also sprawled there, Plagueis: his slender limbs splayed and elongated head turned to one side. Dressed in finery, as for a night on the town.

And now dead.

Or was he?

Uncertainty rippled through Sidious, rage returning to his eyes. A tremor of his own making, or one of forewarning? Was it possible that the wily Muun had deceived him? Had Plagueis unlocked the key to immortality, and survived after all? Never mind that it would constitute a petty move for one so wise—for one who had professed to place the Grand Plan above all else. Had Plagueis become ensnared in a self-spun web of jealousy and possessiveness, victim of his own engineering, his own foibles?

If he hadn’t been concerned for his own safety, Sidious might have pitied him. Wary of approaching the corpse of his former Master, he called on the Force to roll the aged Muun over onto his back. From that angle Plagueis looked almost as he had when Sidious first met him, decades earlier: smooth, hairless cranium; humped nose, with its bridge flattened as if from a shock-ball blow and its sharp tip pressed almost to his upper lip; jutting lower jaw; sunken eyes still brimming with menace—a physical characteristic rarely encountered in a Muun. But then Plagueis had never been an ordinary Muun, nor an ordinary being of any sort.

Sidious took care, still reaching out with the Force. On closer inspection, he saw that Plagueis’s already cyanotic flesh was smoothing out, his features relaxing.

Faintly aware of the whir of air scrubbers and sounds of the outside world infiltrating the luxurious suite, he continued the vigil; then, in relief, he pulled himself up to his full height and let out his breath. This was no Sith trick. Not an instance of feigning death, but one of succumbing to its cold embrace. The being who had guided him to power was gone.

Wry amusement narrowed his eyes.

The Muun might have lived another hundred years unchanged. He might have lived forever had he succeeded fully in his quest. But in the end—though he could save others from death—he had failed to save himself.

A sense of supreme accomplishment puffed Sidious’s chest, and his thoughts unreeled.

Well, then, that wasn’t nearly as bad as we thought it might be...

Rarely did events play out as imagined, in any case. The order of future events was transient. In the same way that the past was reconfigured by selective memory, future events, too, were moving targets. One could only act on instinct, grab hold of an intuited perfect moment, and spring into action. One heartbeat late and the universe would have recomposed itself, no imposition of will sufficient to forestall the currents. One could only observe and react. Surprise was the element absent from any periodic table. A keystone element; a missing ingredient. The means by which the Force amused itself. A reminder to all sentient beings that some secrets could never be unlocked.

Confident that the will of the dark side had been done, he returned to the suite’s window wall. Two beings in a galaxy of countless trillions, but what had transpired in the suite would affect the lives of all of them. Already the galaxy had been shaped by the birth of one, and henceforth would be reshaped by the death of the other. But had the change been felt and recognized elsewhere? Were his sworn enemies aware that the Force had shifted irrevocably? Would it be enough to rouse them from self-righteousness? He hoped not. For now the work of vengeance could begin in earnest.

His eyes sought and found an ascending constellation of stars, one of power and consequence new to the sky, though soon to be overwhelmed by dawn’s first light. Low in the sky over the flatlands, visible only to those who knew where and how to look, it ushered in a bold future. To some the stars and planets might seem to be moving as ever, destined to align in configurations calculated long before their fiery births. But in fact the heavens had been perturbed, tugged by dark matter into novel alignments. In his mouth, Sidious tasted the tang of blood; in his chest, he felt the monster rising, emerging from shadowy depths and contorting his aspect into something fearsome just short of revealing itself to the world.

The dark side had made him its property, and now he made the dark side his.

Breathless, not from exertion but from the sudden inspiration of power, he let go of the sill and allowed the monster to writhe through his body like an unbroken beast of range or prairie.

Had the Force ever been so strong in anyone?

Sidious had never learned how Plagueis’s own Master had met his end. Had he died at Plagueis’s hand? Had Plagueis, too, experienced a similar exultation on becoming a sole Sith Lord? Had the beast of the end time risen then to peek at the world it was to inhabit, knowing its release was imminent?

--Darth Plagueis

Sheev then grows massively through the PT up to RotS which is the version Mace and Yoda scale to.

Chancellor Palpatine’s strength in the Force grows throughout the years leading up to the Great Jedi Purge and the formation of the Galactic Empire.

Beyond the vision of the Jedi Knights, somewhere within the darkness, the greatest master of evil ever to use Sith power bides his time. As his strength grows, his plans begin to shape the course of the galaxy, and his snares await the unsuspecting.

--The Complete Visual Dictionary

To Mace's Force perception, the world crystallized around them, becoming a gem of reality shot through with flaws and fault lines of possibility. This was Mace's particular gift: to see how people and situations fit together in the Force, to find the shear planes that can cause them to break in useful ways, and to intuit what sort of strike would best make the cut. Though he could not consistently determine the significance of the structures he perceived—the darkening cloud upon the Force that had risen with the rebirth of the Sith made that harder and harder with each passing day—the presence of shatterpoints was always clear.

--Revenge of the Sith novelization

Over the next decade Palpatine grew more secure in his power.

--Databank: Darth Sidious/Emperor Palpatine

Only the Jedi were not surprised. For on Geonosis, Obi-Wan Kenobi and his Padawan apprentice, Anakin Skywalker, had learned that Count Dooku had turned to the dark side of the Force — and the power of the dark side had been growing for years. The Jedi knew that defeating the Separatists would be neither quick nor easy with a Dark Lord of the Sith aiding them.

--Revenge of the Sith junior novelization

Strong, this Sith Lord is, Yoda thought as their lightsabers whirled and clashed and whirled again. It should not have been a surprise. With the strength of the dark side growing, the Sith must, logically, have grown stronger, too.

--Revenge of the Sith junior novelization

Note: The quotes that states the darkening cloud in the Force is strengthening every day are in fact referring to Palpatine also, since Sidious is the source of the shroud. Therefore, per the second quote, Sidious was growing in power every single day by a noticeable degree, as evidenced in Mace Windu’s ability to note this. A noticeable increase in power every single day for over a decade would amount to quite a monumental increase overall.

So yeah Hego is out of his depth here.

The text never ascribes a literal doubling to Sidious's power; in fact, the very second paragraph details how the energies emanating from Plagueis’s demise were dispersed throughout the galaxy, so while Sidious’s power was magnified, it wasn’t due to absorbing his Master’s. Rather, the occurrence is described as an “inspiration” and “exultation” from Sidious’s point of view, which is in line with how Plagueis himself felt sometime after disposing of Tenebrous - it was the “realization” that he had become the sole genuine Sith Lord in existence that “roused the raw power coiled within him” (i.e. potential that always existed but was only then actualized) - or Exar Kun, who was empowered by “a vision of himself as the great and powerful Dark Lord of the Sith of Massassi legends.” Consider, too, the case of Darth Malgus, wherein the memory of his lover whom he killed served as a source of anguish and rage from which to draw strength, or Jacen Solo’s murder of Mara Jade Skywalker in combination with his willingness to sacrifice his “bond of trust” with Ben Skywalker heightening his abilities and pushing through “a threshold of his Sith potential.” While these last two examples might seem unrelated, note how even a relationship rooted in hatred, abuse and betrayal forged “an almost filial bond” between Sidious and Maul, with the latter often pondering the idea he would one day have to slay his Master. The boon resulting from the death of one’s Master is born of overcoming the mental hurdle of killing someone one cares for, respects, and/or fears, as opposed to a literal transference of Force energy.

Awake in the oppressive heat, he replayed the events of the previous day, still somewhat astounded by what he had done. The Force had whispered to him: Your moment has come. Claim your stake to the dark side. Act now and be done with this. But the Force had only advised; it had neither dictated his actions nor guided his hands. That had been his doing alone. He knew from his travels with and without Tenebrous that he wasn’t the galaxy’s sole practitioner of the dark side—nor Sith for that matter, since the galaxy was rife with pretenders—but he was now the only Sith Lord descended from the Bane line. A true Sith, and that realization roused the raw power coiled inside him.

Star Wars: Darth Plagueis

Thinking of Eleena blew oxygen on the embers of his anger. In life, Eleena had been his weakness, a tool to be exploited by rivals. In death, she had become his strength, her memory the lens of his rage.

He resided in the calm eye of a storm of hate. Power churned around him, within him. He did not feel as if he were drawing on the Force, using it. He felt as if he were the Force, as if he had merged with it.

He had evolved. Nothing split his loyalties any longer. He served the Force and only the Force, and his understanding of it increased daily.

Star Wars: The Old Republic - Deceived

Sidious had formed an almost filial bond with Maul. Attached to the present, he failed to grasp the truth: that this was the last time he and his apprentice might see each other in the flesh.

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Next, re-read the parts of your own excerpt that are from Sidious’s perspective: he’s blatantly “concerned for his own safety” and “Wary of approaching the corpse of his former Master.” While Sidious is a notoriously paranoid individual who has called for the elimination of targets far beneath his own level (e.g. Ventress, Luke), the only other being he’s ever been apprehensive about personally fighting is Yoda - he wasn’t worried in the slightest over the prospect of combatting Mace or pre-suit Vader, for reference. And no, this fear doesn’t just stem from Plagueis potentially being unkillable - if he were literally twice as powerful, Sidious would have been able to easily subdue and contain him irrespective of his immortality, akin to how Plagueis himself once imprisoned Venamis, or what Vitiate did with Revan. The reason Sidious is afraid is because Plagueis, while inferior, is still a very real threat to him, much like he was a year earlier when his passive presence exuded “terrifying energy” and he seemed “almost omnipotent.”

The Coruscant nightfall was spreading through the galaxy.

The darkness in the Force was no hindrance to the shadow in the Chancellor's office; it was the darkness. Wherever darkness dwelled, the shadow could send perception.

In the night, the shadow felt the boy's anguish, and it was good. The shadow felt the grim determination of four Jedi Masters approaching by air. This, too, was good.

Star Wars: Episode III - Revenge of the Sith novelization

Had Vader killed Obi-Wan on Mustafar, he might have attempted to kill Sidious, as well. In fact, Sidious would have been surprised if Anakin hadn't made an attempt. Now, however, incapable of so much as breathing on his own, Vader could not rise to the challenge, and Sidious understood that he would need to do everything in his power to shake Vader out of his despair, and reawaken the incredible power within him.

Star Wars: Dark Lord - The Rise of Darth Vader

Seen through the Force, he was a nuclear oval of mottled light, a rotating orb of terrifying energy. If the Maladian attack had weakened him physically, it had also helped to shape his etheric body into a vessel sufficiently strong to contain the full power of the dark side. Determined never again to be caught off guard, he had trained himself to go without sleep, and had devoted two standard decades to day-and-night experimentation with midi-chlorian manipulation and attempts to wrest a few last secrets from the Force, so that he-and presumably his human apprentice-might live forever. His inward turn had enabled him to master the equally powerful energies of order and disorder, creation and entropy, life and death.

Star Wars: Darth Plagueis

The Muun's renewed vigor had taken Sidious by surprise. The mere fact that he had escaped the devastation on Sojourn made him seem almost omnipotent. Though even when ensconced in his affluent citadel in the Manarai district, he had yet to relax his vigilance or submit to sleep.

Star Wars: Darth Plagueis

Sidious’s subsequent growth over the years is also not as straightforward as you make it out to be. As early as the prequel trilogy, his body has been under tremendous strain from the sheer quantity of dark side energy that his Force essence is comprised of. In a sense, his body is a glass of water trying to contain an ocean. This phenomenon is explained by the fact that all beings have a set midi-chlorian count and therefore, unless artificially increased, a set amount of Force energy their bodies can contain before the midi-chlorians begin to rupture. In your own excerpt, Sidious’s body is “filled suddenly to bursting, the Force so strong within that he feared he might disappear into it, never to return.” As this influx of Force energy was permanent, his body stayed in a constant state of ”filled suddenly to bursting,” never having a moment of respite, which over the years damaged his mortal frame and resulted in his withered and haggard visage. This process is described on the micro level in Dark Nest I: The Joiner King wherein Luke could feel himself aging—his cells weakening, the membranes growing thin and the cytoplasm simmering, the nuclei coming apart” as a result of ”drawing more powerful than his body was conditioned to endure.” By piecing together the below quotes in chronological order, it’s revealed that Palpatine was already practically on his deathbed after becoming Emperor as he found the Holocron of Ashka Boda and prepared himself for essence transfer in 19/18 BBY.

Luke was sure. By then, he had opened himself wide to the Force, and it was pouring in from all sides, filling him with a maelstrom of power, imbuing his whole body with its energy.

A bang sounded back in the engineering bay as a power circuit overloaded, then the lights dimmed as R2-D2 redistributed shield power. Luke felt a surge of anxiety from Mara, but pushed it to one side so he could concentrate on the task at hand. He formed an imaginary picture of the Shadow’s exterior, then expanded it into the Force, moving it from his mind out into the cockpit.

Mara turned around and inspected the image carefully, then said, “Looks good.”

Luke continued to enlarge the image, extending it into every corner of the vessel, taking his time to absorb the attributes that made up the Shadow’s sensor signature. He began to grow tired, but ignored his fatigue and expanded the illusion until it covered the entire ship like an imaginary skin.

Another bang sounded in the engineering bay. This time, before R2-D2 could redistribute power, the sound was followed by the muffled thuds of several hull hits. Mara hit the crash alert, closing all airtight doors and activating the pressure stop-loss systems, then spoke over the intercom.

“Nanna, get Ben into his vac suit.”

“I’ve already done that,” the droid responded. “We’re waiting at our evacuation station now. Perhaps you should come—”

“Nanna, you short-circuit!” Ben’s voice said. “We’re fine. Dad said so!”

Trying not to be distracted by his son—or by the steadily growing shudder of the barrage of dartship attacks—Luke brought to mind another image of the Shadow, this time with a black, star-speckled veneer that resembled the emptiness of deep space. Instead of absorbing the ship’s sensor signature, however, he blanketed it with a layer of cold emptiness.

Once the illusory skins were in place, he carefully adjusted them, drawing the masking image tight against the hull here, pushing the counterfeit out a little there. The effort of maintaining both illusions began to deplete the energy running through him, so Luke opened himself up completely, using his fear for Ben’s life, his anger at the insects that were threatening it, to draw more Force into himself. Every centimeter of his body began to nettle with its sting, and a faint aura arose from his skin.

A third bang sounded from the engineering bay.

“How about that decoy, Skywalker?” Mara asked. “Our shields can’t take—”

Luke released the outer skin. “Go!”

Mara shoved the throttles to overload, then, half a second later, shut down the drives. The Shadow slid out of her double and—still masked by the dark veneer Luke had constructed—glided quietly away from the Force illusion.

The shuddering stopped. Luke continued to maintain both illusions, the Force pouring through him like fire, burning more fiercely every moment. He was drawing more energy than his body was conditioned to endure, literally burning himself up from the inside. It was not really a dark side act—to a modern Jedi, the dark side was more a matter of intent than deed—but it felt that way to him. According to Mara, this was what happened to Palpatine, and Luke believed her. He could feel himself aging—his cells weakening, the membranes growing thin and the cytoplasm simmering, the nuclei coming apart.

The air around him began to crackle with static.

R2-D2 extended a fire extinguisher and started toward Luke, squealing in alarm.

“It’s okay, Artoo!” Mara said. “He knows how far to push it. He’s not going to ignite.”

I hope, she added silently.

On Luke’s tactical display, the illusionary Shadow—thereal one was not visible even to her own sensors—was slowly drifting toward the bottom of the screen, still surrounded by a cloud of attacking dartships. A small inset was counting down the seconds remaining until the Force-cloaked Shadow would be far enough from the dartships to restart the drives and flee. The way Luke was hurting, thirty seconds seemed like an eternity.

“We’re bringing Juun and Saba aboard now,” Leia commed. Her voice was filled with the concern that Luke felt in the Force. “Do you need help?”

They could not answer for fear that the dartships would notice the comm waves and discover the Shadow’s true position. Instead, Mara reached out to Leia through the Force, trying to assure her that everything was fine. Though the message would have been clearer coming from Luke, his body was starting to tremble and spark, and he needed all his concentration just to fight his exhaustion.

The XR808g began to drift away from the Falcon on the tactical display, and the Solos started a sweeping turn back toward the “battle.” Luke felt Mara protesting through the Force, but the Falcon only began to pick up speed. Leia was angry with them for trying to be heroes; the situation wasn’t that bad.

“Stang!” Mara cursed. “That—”

“Moommmm!” Ben called, peeking around the corner. He was in his vac suit, with the helmet visor open. “Dad says we’re not supposed to say stang.”

“Your father’s right,” Mara said. “Aren’t you supposed to be at your evacuation station with Nanna?”

“We were, but then the shuddering stopped and…” Ben’s gaze drifted over to Luke’s glowing, anguished form, and his eyes bulged with horror. “What’s wrong with Dad?”

“Nothing. I’ll explain later.” Mara activated the intercom. “Nanna—”

The droid appeared behind Ben. “Master Ben!” She swept him up and retreated aft. “The drill is never over until we hear the all-clear.”

Luke’s skin felt as dry as a Tatooine lake, and tiny haloes of golden light were starting to appear around his fingertips. The Falcon was on a straight heading and accelerating toward the dartships. The inset on the tactical display showed three seconds, two…

Mara brought the sublight drives back online. Luke let the illusions drop and slumped into his chair, his skin prickling and his hair standing on end as the last of the Force energy left his body.

Han’s voice came immediately over the comm. “What the blazes?” The Falcon made a hard turn away from the confused dartships. “Did you just tele—”

“Didn’t I tell you not to look back?” Mara asked, her voice still that of a reproving mother. “Now fall in behind us and stay there.”

“Uh, sure.” Han sounded more confused by her tone than he had been by the sudden change in the Shadow’s location. “Whatever you say.”

The comm went silent, and Mara let out a breath. “Chubba. Don’t tell me I just talked to Han like he was a—”

“It’s okay,” Luke assured her. “At heart, he’s just an overgrown kid anyway.”

She activated a mirror section and looked back at him. “How’re you feeling?”

“Like I grabbed a powerfeed,” he said. “Why is that so much harder than pushing a Star Destroyer around?”

Mara smiled. “Just don’t make a mess on my flight deck.”

Feeling in danger of doing just that, Luke started to rise—then caught a glimpse of himself in the mirrored section of canopy. His face was puffy and wrinkled, his skin sallow and dry, his eyes sunken and baggy and rimmed in red. He was starting to look like Palpatine.

Not by half, Mara assured him through the Force.

“But get some rest,” she said aloud. “If you push that stuff too hard, there’s no telling what might happen.”

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This means that Sidious can only output a set amount of power before he begins to harm himself, instanced in the confrontation with Mace Windu: the intensity of his Force lightning permanently broke the functioning of his alchemical mask and disfigured his appearance further. However, the saber duel itself was fought within his body’s limits, meaning the very same post-boost Sidious who felt intimidated by Plagueis’s corpse would be able to replicate the feats in the Office. The fact that Mace required an amp to match him also denotes the Jedi Master isn’t on the Dark Lord’s level under normal circumstances, which begs the question of whether he is stronger than Plagueis at all. Even accounting for just conventional power, the Muun is far from outclassed here.

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You have your timelines majorly mixed up. The duel you're reffering to takes place years before TPM and Maul is stated to grow in power significantly several times past that amped state. TPM Maul is the best duelist in the galaxy and just as powerful as Sidious

''His skills as a warrior were nonpareil.''

-- Darth Maul: Shadow Hunter

''Your skill as a sword master is peerless.''

-- Darth Maul: Saboteur

''An incredible duelist second only, perhaps, to Darth Sidious, Darth Maul honed his lightsaber skills through a lifetime of training against advanced sparring droids.''

-- Star Wars Chronicles: The Prequels

Second, there's the criminal syndicate Black Sun, which threatens to complicate Darth Sidious' plan. His solution: to dispatch the deadliest Sith warrior in the galaxy.

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Which in fact makes Sidious (and Hego) as of this time at the bottom end of Tier 8 (as Maul is near equaled by high 7s like Jinn and TPM Kenobi)

Again, Plagueis is irrelevant in this contest and is vastly outscaled by Yoda or Mace who frankly oneshot.

TPM Maul vs. TPM Sidious is one of the biggest curbstomps in the history of published Star Wars media. Genuine speedblitzes are exceedingly rare, as they are often the result of calculated bursts that catch the opponent off-guard, rather than indicative of such an enormous disparity in power that the weaker Force-user is unable to do anything to mount a defense (cf. exploiting lapses in Force shields vs. breaking through them). Yet Sidious’s movements were so fast that Maul could not track them - not merely too fast for his eyes but still perceptible through the Force, but outright impossible to follow at all. Sidious then proceeds to trace the outline of Maul’s body with such faultless precision that “one involuntary twitch of a muscle” would have been the end of him. The common rebuttal has always been that Maul was unarmed, but that detail is wholly superfluous. How would he block strikes when he cannot process where they are coming from? How would holding a lightsaber in his hand be of any use when the entirety of the surface area of that hand, alongside that of his face and the rest of his body, is covered in the plasma from Sidious’s blade? How could he raise his arm in defense when flinching a muscle kills him? Were TPM Maul and TPM Sidious to fight seriously, both in prime condition and nothing held back, Maul would not be able to block a single blow.

Suddenly, my lightsaber is gone. It flies from my hand across the room. It lands in the hand of my Master.

I never see him enter. Not if he doesn't want me to.

The smile of triumph fades from my face.

"Do you think, " Lord Sidious says, walking toward me, "you can ever relax your guard?"

"No, Master. " What a clumsy, weak mistake. I should be prepared for him to enter at all times. How could I have forgotten that, even for a moment?

The lightsaber whirls in the air, twirling, held in my Master's hand. I can't track it, it moves so fast. But I know it's heading for me.

Lord Sidious moves faster than my eye can follow. I smell heat and smoke. The laser traces the outline of my body, my face, my hands. The buzz is loud in my ear. One flinch, one involuntary twitch of a muscle, and I am dead.

I do not flinch.

At last, Lord Sidious deactivates my weapon. He tosses it toward me. The sweat on my palm almost causes me to drop it.

"Do not let me see you relax your guard again, " my Master says. His eyes burn. "You are valuable, yes. But you are not indispensable, Lord Maul. I can do without you."

A flick of his robe, and he is gone.

Star Wars: Episode I Journal - Darth Maul

As for your quotes, none of them state Maul is as powerful as his Master, so that’s a baseless assertion, not to mention factually incorrect as Sidious is identified as "the most powerful Sith ever" at that point. The quotes referring to Maul’s prowess as a duelist can also be taken to mean his skill with a blade when isolated from his Force mastery, as he is demonstrably fodder to his Master in a real fight. The one calling him “the deadliest Sith warrior in the galaxy” is not binding either since Sidious is not technically a Sith warrior in the archetypal sense, and does being “equally as formidable” mean Maul inspires an unspecified degree of fear through being equally powerful as Sidious, or that he inspires an equal amount of fear to Sidious through being powerful to an unspecified degree? Although I have nothing against them on principle, I’d advise not to build your entire case on a tunnel-visioned reading of ambiguous statements from extremely obscure sources. First and foremost, look at what the actual story is telling us about these characters before turning to second-hand commentary.

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