Darth Maul vs. Plo Koon

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#1  Edited By GhostRider29

After talking to someone who believes Plo Koon would win in this fight, I decided to take matters in my own hands. I personally believe Darth Maul would win, but I'd like to see what the public thinks.

Location:

Morals are off.

If Darth Maul wins, he becomes Sidious's apprentice once again.

If Plo wins, Sidious will turn himself in.

They start off ten feet away.

Round 1:

Darth Maul before he loses his lower half.

Round 2:

After he loses his lower half.

Eu and movie versions of both.

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#2  Edited By MasterJohn

EU plo wins 2nd round, movie plo had no impressive feats except dying.

As for the first round, I'l need to think on it.

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#3  Edited By JamesKM716

Round 1: Darth Maul.... Good match up, but Maul beat Qui-Gon, who is one of the strongest Duelists.

Round 2: I don't know much about TCW Maul, but i've heard that he's stronger. So Maul too

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#4  Edited By ShootingNova

@MasterJohn said:

movie plo had no impressive feats except dying.

LOL, somehow this made me laugh. And dying is not an impressive feat either.

Anyways, Maul probably wins the first one. It depends... second one, Maul wins.

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#5  Edited By GhostRider29

I'm going to Bump this, I hope more people comment. Lol

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#6  Edited By Nefarious

Darth Maul should win.

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#7  Edited By MasterJohn

@Nefarious said:

Darth Maul should win.

I find this funny for all your posts..

YOU NEVER GIVE REASONS.

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#8  Edited By G1d3on

Maul, both rounds. Better trained, much more skilled, and by the time of TCW, much more powerful in the Force (cf. "Revival," wherein he telekinetically manhandles an Eta-class shuttle).

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#9  Edited By MasterJohn

So Plo Koon stands NO chance against Maul, but Kit Fisto destroys him?

What is this?

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Qui Gon was only on par with Mace in pure saber combat skills, this had nothing to do with Force power. Jinns raw skill with a saber was apparently on par with Mace. He held off Maul just fine until he got stunned, I mean he took a saber hilt to the face. I can't really consider Maul the superior saber artist if he needed to hit Jinn physically to insure victory. I don't consider him better trained in saber skill, I do consider him more skilled in combat prowess and hand to hand arts. Once again, he needed to kick and force push his way to Victory against both Jinn and Obi Wan when he soloed them 1v1. Without that, he would have lost.

Not enough is known about Plos Saber combat skill, he must be better than Qui Gon as he is older and has been on the masters squad for a while. So based solely on that, any version of Plo Koon should be able to best Maul. Jedi are idiots and do not use these techniques in battle even if it means their death. Surely, Jinn would have easily Force Pushed or Crushed Maul into a ball if he wanted. But Jedi do not do that, so the odds are in Mauls favor to take out some of the lower end Masters under Mace and Yoda. Thats what made Mauls training so unique and why he was so dangerous as a Sith. Any other Sith would want to test their skill honorably against a MASTER JEDI. Maul was bred to hate them and to kill them with no regard for honor. Yes, Sith have honor. Bane and any number of other Sith, including Sidious want to test their might against powerful opponents. Maul just wanted to kill. Nothing more.

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#11  Edited By The_Roman

@MasterJohn said:

EU plo wins 2nd round, movie plo had no impressive feats except dying.

As for the first round, I'l need to think on it.

Not true...He blew up...That left me with an impression.

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@P0rtal said:

Qui Gon was only on par with Mace in pure saber combat skills, this had nothing to do with Force power. Jinns raw skill with a saber was apparently on par with Mace. He held off Maul just fine until he got stunned, I mean he took a saber hilt to the face. I can't really consider Maul the superior saber artist if he needed to hit Jinn physically to insure victory. I don't consider him better trained in saber skill, I do consider him more skilled in combat prowess and hand to hand arts. Once again, he needed to kick and force push his way to Victory against both Jinn and Obi Wan when he soloed them 1v1. Without that, he would have lost.

Not enough is known about Plos Saber combat skill, he must be better than Qui Gon as he is older and has been on the masters squad for a while. So based solely on that, any version of Plo Koon should be able to best Maul. Jedi are idiots and do not use these techniques in battle even if it means their death. Surely, Jinn would have easily Force Pushed or Crushed Maul into a ball if he wanted. But Jedi do not do that, so the odds are in Mauls favor to take out some of the lower end Masters under Mace and Yoda. Thats what made Mauls training so unique and why he was so dangerous as a Sith. Any other Sith would want to test their skill honorably against a MASTER JEDI. Maul was bred to hate them and to kill them with no regard for honor. Yes, Sith have honor. Bane and any number of other Sith, including Sidious want to test their might against powerful opponents. Maul just wanted to kill. Nothing more.

Jedi are not idiots.

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Subjective.

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#14  Edited By GhostRider29

@MasterJohn said:

So Plo Koon stands NO chance against Maul, but Kit Fisto destroys him?

What is this?

Who said Kit destroys him? Kit would most likely win, but not destroy.

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#15  Edited By MasterJohn

@GhostRider29 said:

@MasterJohn said:

So Plo Koon stands NO chance against Maul, but Kit Fisto destroys him?

What is this?

Who said Kit destroys him? Kit would most likely win, but not destroy.

This is a mismatch to make Plo look bad.

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#16  Edited By GhostRider29

@MasterJohn said:

@GhostRider29 said:

@MasterJohn said:

So Plo Koon stands NO chance against Maul, but Kit Fisto destroys him?

What is this?

Who said Kit destroys him? Kit would most likely win, but not destroy.

This is a mismatch to make Plo look bad.

Um where did that even come from? I asked who said Kit would destroy Maul? Because that'd be a close fight. And this wasn't a match to make Plo look bad. You said Plo would defeat Maul, I was curious to see what other people thought on that.

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#17  Edited By MasterJohn

Well, if Plo loses, it just makes him look bad.

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#18  Edited By GhostRider29

@MasterJohn said:

Well, if Plo loses, it just makes him look bad.

How would it? You seem to severely underestimation Darth maul. Losing to him is not a bad thing. Most Jedi actually would lose to him.

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#19  Edited By MasterJohn

@GhostRider29 said:

@MasterJohn said:

Well, if Plo loses, it just makes him look bad.

How would it? You seem to severely underestimation Darth maul. Losing to him is not a bad thing. Most Jedi actually would lose to him.

Kit wouldn't lose to him.

Kenobi wouldn't lose to him (arguably, I saw those clone wars episodes, if it was 1 on 1 with Maul not with opress, he would have won.)

Yoda would murder him.

Mace Windu wouldn't lose to him.

Shaak ti wouldn't lose to him.

The Ones would roflstompkillthrow him.

Anakin wouldn't lose to him.

Hmm...Need I go on?

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#20  Edited By GhostRider29

@MasterJohn said:

@GhostRider29 said:

@MasterJohn said:

Well, if Plo loses, it just makes him look bad.

How would it? You seem to severely underestimation Darth maul. Losing to him is not a bad thing. Most Jedi actually would lose to him.

Kit wouldn't lose to him.

Kenobi wouldn't lose to him (arguably, I saw those clone wars episodes, if it was 1 on 1 with Maul not with opress, he would have won.)

Yoda would murder him.

Mace Windu wouldn't lose to him.

Shaak ti wouldn't lose to him.

The Ones would roflstompkillthrow him.

Anakin wouldn't lose to him.

Hmm...Need I go on?

You do realize that's only a few, out of thousands and thousands of Jedi that would lose to him. Kit COULD lose to him, they're closer than you think. And now you got me curious about Darth Maul vs. Shaak Ti. Mace and Yoda are two of the best Jedi in the movies, so obviously they'd win. Though I have seen arguments that Darth Maul could handle Mace(Don't actually take my account on it, I don't remember where I saw the arguments) Anakin of course wouldn't lose to him. Kenobi, IMO, would lose to him.

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#21  Edited By MasterJohn

@GhostRider29 said:

@MasterJohn said:

@GhostRider29 said:

@MasterJohn said:

Well, if Plo loses, it just makes him look bad.

How would it? You seem to severely underestimation Darth maul. Losing to him is not a bad thing. Most Jedi actually would lose to him.

Kit wouldn't lose to him.

Kenobi wouldn't lose to him (arguably, I saw those clone wars episodes, if it was 1 on 1 with Maul not with opress, he would have won.)

Yoda would murder him.

Mace Windu wouldn't lose to him.

Shaak ti wouldn't lose to him.

The Ones would roflstompkillthrow him.

Anakin wouldn't lose to him.

Hmm...Need I go on?

You do realize that's only a few, out of thousands and thousands of Jedi that would lose to him. Kit COULD lose to him, they're closer than you think. And now you got me curious about Darth Maul vs. Shaak Ti. Mace and Yoda are two of the best Jedi in the movies, so obviously they'd win. Though I have seen arguments that Darth Maul could handle Mace(Don't actually take my account on it, I don't remember where I saw the arguments) Anakin of course wouldn't lose to him. Kenobi, IMO, would lose to him.

I'l name more.

Rahm Kota.

Galen Marek.

Yaddle

Salete Shan

I can name more.

Maul is not this awesome invicincible sith. Maul is a sith warrior that many Jedi can defeat.

Palpatine is a different story, it doesn't make me angry when I know only a few can kill, Palpatine but when someone says only a few can kill Maul, I get very agressive.

Also, Bumi would destroy Maul.

Ki Adi Mundi would destroy Maul.

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#22  Edited By GhostRider29

@MasterJohn: That's cool that you get aggressive. Hope that carries you far in life. Seriously, I said you're underestimating maul. You act like he's some weak Sith that can't fight anyone. Where did I ever say he was some invincible Sith? Because I'm pretty sure I never said anything like that.

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#23  Edited By Nefarious
@MasterJohn said:

@Nefarious said:

Darth Maul should win.

I find this funny for all your posts..

YOU NEVER GIVE REASONS.

Why do you find it funny? 
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#24  Edited By MasterJohn

@Nefarious said:

@MasterJohn said:

@Nefarious said:

Darth Maul should win.

I find this funny for all your posts..

YOU NEVER GIVE REASONS.

Why do you find it funny?

You never engage in debate.

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#25  Edited By Nefarious
@MasterJohn: I'm not a very good debater. 
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#26  Edited By MasterJohn

@Nefarious said:

@MasterJohn: I'm not a very good debater.

Atleast you aren't completely rude like the OP.

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#27  Edited By GhostRider29

@MasterJohn said:

@Nefarious said:

@MasterJohn: I'm not a very good debater.

Atleast you aren't completely rude like the OP.

OH, and how am I rude. By saying what other people thinks makes me mad? Oh wait, that's you. You're the only one being rude. I'm just getting pissed off by how you keep talking to me. You tell me a certain person would beat Maul, I want to see if your right. I make a fair battle, most people, if not all, vote for Maul. Then you accuse me of setting stuff up. I'm DOING NOTHING!

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#28  Edited By Swagger462

@MasterJohn said:

@GhostRider29 said:

@MasterJohn said:

Well, if Plo loses, it just makes him look bad.

How would it? You seem to severely underestimation Darth maul. Losing to him is not a bad thing. Most Jedi actually would lose to him.

Kit wouldn't lose to him.

Kenobi wouldn't lose to him (arguably, I saw those clone wars episodes, if it was 1 on 1 with Maul not with opress, he would have won.)

Yoda would murder him.

Mace Windu wouldn't lose to him.

Shaak ti wouldn't lose to him.

The Ones would roflstompkillthrow him.

Anakin wouldn't lose to him.

Hmm...Need I go on?

The only reason he got out of the Phantom Menace alive was because of Mauls hubris. He didn't win that fight. Maul just lost it.

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#29  Edited By MasterJohn

@GhostRider29 said:

@MasterJohn said:

@Nefarious said:

@MasterJohn: I'm not a very good debater.

Atleast you aren't completely rude like the OP.

OH, and how am I rude. By saying what other people thinks makes me mad? Oh wait, that's you. You're the only one being rude. I'm just getting pissed off by how you keep talking to me. You tell me a certain person would beat Maul, I want to see if your right. I make a fair battle, most people, if not all, vote for Maul. Then you accuse me of setting stuff up. I'm DOING NOTHING!

"Good for you being agressive, I hope that carries you far in life"

Pretty rude to me.

I don't get personal, espically when I do COMIC debates *facepalm*

After ALL the jedi I listed, you had to pick out Shaak Ti, not even knowing her power? Comicvine is an encloypedia, LOOK IT UP!

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#30  Edited By GhostRider29

@MasterJohn said:

Well, if Plo loses, it just makes him look bad.

Kit wouldn't lose to him.

Kenobi wouldn't lose to him (arguably, I saw those clone wars episodes, if it was 1 on 1 with Maul not with opress, he would have won.)

Yoda would murder him.

Mace Windu wouldn't lose to him.

Shaak ti wouldn't lose to him.

The Ones would roflstompkillthrow him.

Anakin wouldn't lose to him.

Hmm...Need I go on?

I'l name more.

Rahm Kota.

Galen Marek.

Yaddle

Salete Shan

I can name more.

Maul is not this awesome invicincible sith. Maul is a sith warrior that many Jedi can defeat.

Palpatine is a different story, it doesn't make me angry when I know only a few can kill, Palpatine but when someone says only a few can kill Maul, I get very agressive.

Also, Bumi would destroy Maul.

Ki Adi Mundi would destroy Maul.

You literally tired everything in your power to make me look stupid. And because of my opinion, "You get aggressive " Then when I make some of these post into actual battles, and people vote for Maul, you try telling me I'm setting it up.

MasterJohn said:

What? SHAAK TI WINS!

You are doing your best to make the people I listed look horrible, hmm?

This makes me want to set up more threads that would humiliate Maul. He's not Sidious, he's a simple Sith warrior that can be destroyed by alot of Jedi.

You, for one, accuse me of making post to make your list look horrible. NO. I'm simply putting what you said to the test. And most people disagree with you. Get over it. And you wonder why I'm getting mad?

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#31  Edited By Nefarious
@MasterJohn: Completely rude? I'm not rude at all, John. One thing about me, I usually give a reason when I know a lot about both characters and I have seen and studied their feats beforehand.
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#32  Edited By MasterJohn

@Nefarious said:

@MasterJohn: Completely rude? I'm not rude at all, John. One thing about me, I usually give a reason when I know a lot about both characters and I have seen and studied their feats beforehand.

I know you aren't rude at all.

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#33  Edited By Nefarious
@MasterJohn: Oh.
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#34  Edited By GhostRider29

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@MasterJohn: Completely rude? I'm not rude at all, John. One thing about me, I usually give a reason when I know a lot about both characters and I have seen and studied their feats beforehand.

He was talking about me. Even though he judges my opinion(Because what I said made him aggressive) , accuses me of things, and when I make a fair fight he tries to tell me that I'm setting it up. Like this fight. He said Plo Koon would destroy Maul. I decided to see if he's right. Made a fair battle with two rounds since obviously Maul becomes a different character. But no, that's me setting up Plo's failure. Same is the Shaak Ti fight. He tells me something, I make a battle out of it, turns out he was wrong, then tells me I'm rude. haha.

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#35  Edited By Nefarious
@GhostRider29: Oh. This is gonna get ugly.
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#36  Edited By steelhound56

Maul takes the first battle

Not so sure about the second one, so I'll stay out of it

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Maul, no contest.

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Plo would challenge Maul, but that's about it. Maul wins 10/10.

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Maul 10/10.

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Plo koon has stomped ventress while injured, ventress has challenged anakin, from what we've been shown koon takes this

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Plo koon has stomped ventress while injured, ventress has challenged anakin, from what we've been shown koon takes this

Stop bumping threads just to post the wrong answer.

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#43  Edited By noobsnowman

I honestly don't understand when X character beats Y in a battle, people dismiss it as Y getting stomped. Plo didn't stomp Ventress, at all. Another example would be when Anakin fought Dooku on the Invisible Hand. Yes Anakin encased Dooku's vision with his blade, and he is the superior duelist of the two, but does it mean that Dooku got stomped? No. People use the word 'stomp' too casually on debate threads.

On topic, Maul wins easily.

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Maul takes both in decent fights.

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#46  Edited By icecold14

Maul easily

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@g1d3on said:

Maul, both rounds. Better trained, much more skilled, and by the time of TCW, much more powerful in the Force (cf. "Revival," wherein he telekinetically manhandles an Eta-class shuttle).

Does he really? We're not talking about the TCW feat right?

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#49  Edited By Soup95

Maul 9/10

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#50 juiceboks  Moderator

Maul everytime by virtue of being superior in..everything.