Darth Malgus and Darth Malak vs Darth Bane and Jerec

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Rules -

All characters in prime. Darth Bane gets armor.

Round 1 - Duel

Round 2 - Force

Round 3 - All out

BONUS - If team 1 lose they get Darth Sion

BONUS - If team 2 lose they get Desann

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With his armour, Bane will be the MVP in the duel but die first in the Force and all-out rounds. With Desann, Jerec and Bane should be able to score a majority of wins. Maybe not 10/10, though, as Bane is still particularly vulnerable.

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Prime bane with his armor omegalul. He would be hard to beat. You could make a argument for Malak assuming SF based off of him being >>Kun but that's a tough one.

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@themuser: Darth Malak >> Exar Kun >>> Spirit!Kun > Kueller ~ NR!Luke > BFC!Luke.

Seems legit. Malak can casually rebuild mountain-sized fortresses.

In all seriousness. The far more recent KOTOR:CG has an entirely overriding description of Malak compared to his web preview, it takes precedence and no such claim is made there by WotC.

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Malgus solos, he was superior to the combined might of the JC and HOT, no reason why this team fairs any better, Malak is straight up unnecessary. Desann is fodder, the bonus is no different.

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#7  Edited By Lord_Tenebrous

Team 2 wins via Bane being not only the MVP without an amp but in his prime and also amped by his armor which additionally renders him practically invincible. Adding Sion won't change the odds by virtue of the massive orblisk advantage.

If not for his armor, team 1 would win. The gap between Malgus and Jerec is larger than the gap between Malak and Bane. Jerec goes down and Bane is dogpiled by two foes who can individually provide difficulty for him.

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@lord_tenebrous: Malak and Malgus should both have lightning strong enough to fry his orbalisks. The armor also makes him fight suicidally, so he screws himself over too.

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#10  Edited By Greysentinel365

Pretty sure Jerec can one-shot and Bane can solo.

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@sithrevenant:

Bane at this point is wiser, more experienced and more knowledgeable than his previous orbalisk incarnation. What lightning feats do Malak and Malgus have to suggest they can take Bane down?

Moreover that would only become relevent in round 2, and possibly round 3. In round 1, they can't do it.

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@themuser: Darth Malak >> Exar Kun >>> Spirit!Kun > Kueller ~ NR!Luke > BFC!Luke.

Seems legit. Malak can casually rebuild mountain-sized fortresses.

In all seriousness. The far more recent KOTOR:CG has an entirely overriding description of Malak compared to his web preview, it takes precedence and no such claim is made there by WotC.

lol Sorry, should add that I personally think that whole thing is ridiculous but it seems its the accepted views of the forum so :/

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@themuser: By that logic, Avatar is the best movie ever made.

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#17  Edited By TheMuser

@darthant66 said:
@greysentinel365 said:

Pretty sure Jerec can one-shot and Bane can solo.

Jerec couldn't one-shot Katarn but he could one-shot Malak and Malgus?

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I guess that's what happens when I'm inactive for a bit.

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@darthant66: By that logic, Luke couldn't be stomped by Abeloth so she can't be 12 twelves his equal.

Not to mention this is far from the only source confirming Kun is supreme over Luke and Kyp.

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@darthant66:

It was no good. Abeloth had a dozen times the Force strength Luke had, and he could do no more than keep her from crushing his throat.

Source: Fate of the Jedi: Vortex

I mean, that's basically the case. He can't be outright murdered by her so it can't be true. But it is, because it's demonstratably true later on. Plus, it's not as if a 'good fight' is even really measurably reliable as a detractor for what is confirmed in the text. Not that I'd consider their fight to be a 'good one' at all. It's literally Luke backpedalling as Kueller attacks him until Kueller's blade is at Luke's chin. Kueller could've killed him there and then. The fight is literally this:

"I don't want to fight you, Dolph," Luke said.

"You won't be fighting Dolph," Kueller replied. He slashed at Luke. In one quick movement, Luke grabbed his lightsaber and blocked Kueller's swipe with his own blade. The electric clang of the sabers filled the air, sending sparks all around them. Each movement ripped at Luke's back, but he focused on the blade instead: parrying, defending, blocking, never really attacking. He would wait until Kueller was open before making his move.

Kueller hit at Luke's left, then his right, then his heart. But Luke kept blocking. Kueller pushed Luke backward, toward the house. Luke stumbled on his weak leg, and collapsed on the knee. A river of pain ran through his thigh. Kueller brought his lightsaber down onto Luke's shoulder, but Luke rolled away from it, his back burning as dirt from the road ground into his wounds.

He pushed himself up and swiped at Kueller, singeing his cape. The hum of lightsabers filled the air. Sweat ran down Luke's face. His strength was gone. He had gone through too much in the last few days. But he concentrated on Kueller's movements, lived for Kueller's movements, blocked them, anticipated them, and held his ground.

In a series of five rapid thrusts, Kueller moved Luke backward again. Luke parried, parried, parried, but couldn't keep his balance. His ankle was clearly broken and unable to support him. Kueller jabbed at Luke's left side. Luke swiveled to dodge, and Kueller jabbed again. Luke's ankle buckled, but he didn't fall. Kueller pushed closer, and knocked Luke's lightsaber from his hand.

Kueller held his blue blade beneath Luke's chin. Luke could feel its heat, smell its electric tang.

"I should kill you now," Kueller said.

New Rebellion

The second fight is utterly riddled with interruptions and circumstances that invariably disrupted the outcome of the fight. Now if you want to argue that full-strength Luke is his equal, that's fine. I'd even agree. But that does nothing to discount the quote.

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Jerec is comparable in power to Vader, while Bane provides further help.

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Jerec is only comparable to Vader in terms of force power. How he uses force in combat, lightsaber dueling, and use of force augmentation could very well be below Vader's abilities.

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#24  Edited By dark_globe

jerec is the most useless here .
his best feat is to amp himself to high heavens only to get his connection to the force severed by katarn
and get stomped by him - roll credits for former jedi archeologist and sith lord wannabe .

malgus solo after a brutal fight against bane , jerec is basically a non factor and
malak is not needed here (otherwise it´s an easy win for team one) .

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Onslaught Malgus gestures fields of these fodder, except Malak is kind of good and above GM Luke

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Team 2.