Darth Krayt vs Darth Caedus vs KFV

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Darth Krayt:

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Darth Caedus:

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Knightfall Vader:

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Everyone is in their prime.

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Start 20 metres apart.

Fights takes place in the Mandalore throne room.

Who wins and why?

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Two oneshots later KFV goes back to slaughtering younglings.

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Krayt > KFV > Caedus

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#6  Edited By noobsnowman

I actually think a case can be made for any of them. IMO Krayt loses to either Caedus or Vader in a grueling fight, but I can definitely see an argument being made for Krayt winning. Caedus or Vader can go either way, with Vader being superior in raw force power, but Caedus having superior force defenses, battle awareness and tenacity. Their skills with the lightsaber are roughly on par. I'd give Caedus the edge in the war of attrition but in a standard fight it should end in a draw.

Caedus = Vader >= Krayt

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Krayt solos.

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Krayt>Caedus>KFV

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Don't know too much about Caedus but Krayt should be above KFV.

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Krayt.

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Krayt or Caedus either way. KFV is last tho

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Krayt

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vader solos

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Two oneshots later KFV goes back to slaughtering younglings.

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#19  Edited By killbilly  Moderator

Krayt > Caedus >> RotJ Vader > ESB Vader >> ANH Vader > KFV.

Either Krayt or Caedus oneshot KFV and Krayt eventually beats Caedus in a great fight.

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Krayt > Caedus >> RotJ Vader > ESB Vader >> ANH Vader > KFV.

Either Krayt or Caedus oneshot KFV and Krayt eventually beats Caedus in a great fight.

Why is Caedus >> ROTJ Vader? Just curious

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@darthor:

'For Caedus is a scion of both the Skywalker and Solo bloodlines whose command of the Force surpasses even that of his grandfather Darth Vader.'

-Legacy of the Force: Invincible

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@donloota said:

@darthor:

'For Caedus is a scion of both the Skywalker and Solo bloodlines whose command of the Force surpasses even that of his grandfather Darth Vader.'

-Legacy of the Force: Invincible

I am aware of it. But it in no means shows vast superiority. Just superiority

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#23 killbilly  Moderator

@darthor said:
@donloota said:

@darthor:

'For Caedus is a scion of both the Skywalker and Solo bloodlines whose command of the Force surpasses even that of his grandfather Darth Vader.'

-Legacy of the Force: Invincible

I am aware of it. But it in no means shows vast superiority. Just superiority

I would say because of how he compares to Luke/Luke level opponents. The gap between Luke a few years after the OT and Luke as Grandmaster late into the NJO era is staggering.

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I would say because of how he compares to Luke/Luke level opponents. The gap between Luke a few years after the OT and Luke as Grandmaster late into the NJO era is staggering.

How quantify?

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#25  Edited By killbilly  Moderator
@sheevsmacker said:
@killbilly said:

I would say because of how he compares to Luke/Luke level opponents. The gap between Luke a few years after the OT and Luke as Grandmaster late into the NJO era is staggering.

How quantify?

I'll compile a list of growth quotes and his major feats during his time as Grandmaster sometime over the next couple of days. Tag me sometime this week if I forget.

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#26  Edited By Greysentinel365

@darthor said:
@donloota said:

@darthor:

'For Caedus is a scion of both the Skywalker and Solo bloodlines whose command of the Force surpasses even that of his grandfather Darth Vader.'

-Legacy of the Force: Invincible

I am aware of it. But it in no means shows vast superiority. Just superiority

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@darthor said:
@donloota said:

@darthor:

'For Caedus is a scion of both the Skywalker and Solo bloodlines whose command of the Force surpasses even that of his grandfather Darth Vader.'

-Legacy of the Force: Invincible

I am aware of it. But it in no means shows vast superiority. Just superiority

I would say because of how he compares to Luke/Luke level opponents. The gap between Luke a few years after the OT and Luke as Grandmaster late into the NJO era is staggering.

Ah ok. I see

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@darthor said:
@donloota said:

@darthor:

'For Caedus is a scion of both the Skywalker and Solo bloodlines whose command of the Force surpasses even that of his grandfather Darth Vader.'

-Legacy of the Force: Invincible

I am aware of it. But it in no means shows vast superiority. Just superiority

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KFV has parity with Yoda who effortlessly disarmed Ventress. Ventress was considerably above characters who Caedus struggled with.

KFV wins.

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#30  Edited By killbilly  Moderator
@ferriserris said:

KFV has parity with Yoda who effortlessly disarmed Ventress. Ventress was considerably above characters who Caedus struggled with.

Can I ask you to go into this? To my knowledge, Caedus never struggled with an opponent on this level without extreme circumstances in his opponent's favor or against him. Which instances are you referring to?

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Crucible Luke >>> FoTJ Luke > LoTF Luke > NJO Luke > DE Luke > RoTJ Luke = Yoda >> Fisto > Knight > Padawan > Youngling/Initiate

Krayt is Yoda level for all his hype

His magic is broken and he can catch you in it and it's gg

So Krayt can no diff KFV but KFV is slightly stronger than Yoda and in a raw duel it could go either way, I guess Vader gets the edge winning

But Caedus blitzes these two instantly as he is LoTF Luke level, he low diffed Kyle who is < Kyp = 30 ABY Luke

He also fought LoTF Luke

Feats only debate server in my bio

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I'd back Caedus, unless Krayt decides to spam his versatile power set.

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#36  Edited By BreakOfDawn

Could honestly go either of the trio's way. Vader is the strongest and most skilled, followed by Krayt, followed by Caedus, but Solo has his illusions and Krayt has experience with dealing with similar types of mental manipulation.

I'll favour KFV simply because I think his power, skill and connection to the Force will help to guide him through, but I'm not entirely convinced Caedus can't exploit his hax to win, or that Krayt won't take advantage of Vader being distracted to kill him or Caedus.

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I'd back Caedus, unless Krayt decides to spam his versatile power set.

I'm pretty sure Caedus has an even more versatile power set.

But yeah, Caedus probably wins this.

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The KFV fodder gets near-instantly one-shotted, and it becomes a Caedus vs Krayt, which, after a decent fight, Krayt wins, he is simply much more consistent than Caedus on top of being more powerful than his FOTJ self, which was already presented as a legitimate rival to Luke.

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Krayt>Caedus=KFV the way I see it

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@donloota: Yes, even NJO Jacen would beat her if not affected by Plot Induced Stupidity, as she is Aayla Secura level and Jacen/Caedus has way superior feats when he's not jobbing.

Now, can AOTC Anakin beat or even survive against Kyle Katarn + a Jedi Strike team, or last two seconds against LOTF Luke, who scales above DE Luke?

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Krayt wins in a great fight.