Stipulations: Both members have had a week to prep. If prep is what this battle comes down to, what is it that both competitors create with their prep time to try and defeat their opponents? Please be logical with your choice, and please have it be something from the comics. Each competitor doesn't have to use their prep time if they don't want to, but it could cost them depending on what their opponent brings to the table. This battle is only to the death or KO. No BFR. No backup. Darkseid cannot call Parademons to his aid. If a draw is what the outcome of this battle is, and no competitor can get the upper hand on the other, so be it.
Battlefield: The battlefield location is in the center of New York City, down in Times Square. Civilians are running scared from the battle that is about to unfold.
If you do not know enough about each character, go here to their respective pages and read up on them: Darkseid // Doctor Doom
Darkseid vs. Doctor Doom
Doom has prep that has allowed him to drain the energy from Galactus, the Silver Surfer, and even Skaar. With a week of prep I don't see why he can't figure something out to pull a similar effect on Darkseid.
" @capall: Like I said, have it be something from the comics. Whatever he has used in the comics, he can use here. Just list what that thing is that he will use. "Does this include the tech he had in the Secret Wars?
" @Ferro Vida said:He did it to Galactus is less during Secret Wars." Doom has prep that has allowed him to drain the energy from Galactus, the Silver Surfer, and even Skaar. With a week of prep I don't see why he can't figure something out to pull a similar effect on Darkseid. "in one week? "
" @CosmicSpiral: What would Metron's chair grant Darkseid? "a comfy place to sit in ?
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@King Saturn said:
" @victorymaker said:" @CosmicSpiral: What would Metron's chair grant Darkseid? "a comfy place to sit in ?
:P "
^This, and mastery over space-time.
" Doom has prep that has allowed him to drain the energy from Galactus, the Silver Surfer, and even Skaar. With a week of prep I don't see why he can't figure something out to pull a similar effect on Darkseid. "Thing is, Galactus, Surfer and Skaar are pretty much morons. Darkseid, on the other hand, is a prep master in his own right. While not really on par with Doom, his vastly greater resources allow him to tip the balance into his favor.
Galactus is not a moron. Darkseid is smarter, but Galactus is not a moron. I wouldn't say Surfer is either. Darkseid may have greater resources normally, but keep in mind that Doom will have access to fortieth century tech for this fight, because there have been times in the comics where he has had access to it. Also, he has cube that lets him travel through time stored in his armor :P
" @AtPhantom: Galactus is not a moron. Darkseid is smarter, but Galactus is not a moron. I wouldn't say Surfer is either. Darkseid may have greater resources normally, but keep in mind that Doom will have access to fortieth century tech for this fight, because there have been times in the comics where he has had access to it. Also, he has cube that lets him travel through time stored in his armor :P "I'm not saying he's a moron per se, I'm saying that people beat him on prep all the time. Every time Doom or Reed or Panther one upped him through some plot device, he could have averted it all if he just used his damn cosmic senses to find out what's going on. Hence why I don't stick on people beating him too much.
I don't know who has fortieth century tech in Marvel, but I would like to know what it does, Because technology of the New Gods is ridiculously uber advanced. Neon Nemesis mentioned the Genesis Box a few posts ago. That's a device designed to reduce all creation to energy and then reconstitute it, removing any unwanted aspects of it (In one occasion Darkseid himself was removed through it). Darkseid is known to have armories stocked full with planet busting grenades. And Darkseid doesn't need any prep to travel through time and space. In fact, one of his favorite moves is to just dump someone he doesn't like through time (What happened to Batman at the end of FC).
yes and with entertainment weekly he can invint a miniature nuclear bomb" i gotta give this to doom cus give him week and he can do whatever he wants to whoever he wants. heck give him 5 mins a rock and a copy of people magazine and he can make a death ray. doom takes this. "
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Wondering why people are limiting Doom's tech as if it's nothing compared to Darkseid's. People are forgetting that Doom was able to beat the Beyonder with his tech, IIRC.
i think darkseid would take this one. he's a master tactician and a god. doom has amazing showings but i think darkseid would take this IMO just sayin
Can't make a big reply because I am at school, just saying I understand what you were saying now. As to the fortieth century tech, it's what Kang the Conquerer used to, well, conquer. You'll have to ask someone else for the specifics, though.
So they both have a time machine of some sort? That kind of cancels out, doesn't it?
" @kaino12 said:u dont wanna know what he does with a playboy!!yes and with entertainment weekly he can invint a miniature nuclear bomb ;P "" i gotta give this to doom cus give him week and he can do whatever he wants to whoever he wants. heck give him 5 mins a rock and a copy of people magazine and he can make a death ray. doom takes this. "
Doom u forget my omega beams- what is that!?!?!?!? oh OH NO NONO NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO *censored*
It's hard to say really...They both have prep....Maybe Darkseid takes this because he has more advanced technology at his disposal?
" @Rothschild said:My point is I vote Doom,thats my vote... Disprove me all you want, thats my reasoning" Victor.. Cmon, he beat Mephisto, drained Galactus, and hes a super genius "Darkseid is a God who beat a monitor and killed a universe. What's your point? "
" @AtPhantom said:You know, this is a debate thread. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but don't hide behind it." @Rothschild said:My point is I vote Doom,thats my vote... Disprove me all you want, thats my reasoning "" Victor.. Cmon, he beat Mephisto, drained Galactus, and hes a super genius "Darkseid is a God who beat a monitor and killed a universe. What's your point? "
How am I hiding? In the Comics I have read Doom has shown that he has the ability to knock off guys bigger than him, that mixed with his vast understanding of magic and science as well as not underestimating the extent of beings stronger than him is what I feel gives him the edge. Darkseid has shown that much like Thanos he DOES underestimate those who he would deem "mere mortals'... Darkseid in a straight up fight would win. With prep(which is the only way it makes sense), I feel Doom has the slight edge. Don't start asking me to produce scans and pictures and all that B.S. I read comics for entertainment not for some fanboy hard-on." @Rothschild said:
" @AtPhantom said:You know, this is a debate thread. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but don't hide behind it. "" @Rothschild said:My point is I vote Doom,thats my vote... Disprove me all you want, thats my reasoning "" Victor.. Cmon, he beat Mephisto, drained Galactus, and hes a super genius "Darkseid is a God who beat a monitor and killed a universe. What's your point? "
If Hellbat omegas absorbs rays, I can not imagine what he will do to Darkeisd Doom your normal suit.
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