Daredevil and The Punisher vs Moon Knight and Hawkeye
In New York City, till both heroes on the opposite team are knocked out or completely disabled.
Daredevil and The Punisher vs Moon Knight and Hawkeye
In New York City, till both heroes on the opposite team are knocked out or completely disabled.
Daredevil and Frank. IMHO Frank is the weak link, but he's still capable of giving either opponent a tough time - so it's not a major hindrance to his team. Meanwhile, Daredevil is the clear MVP, being able to defeat Hawkeye or Moon Knight. Assuming Frank is still holding his own at this point (which is likely), Daredevil can then assist him and seal the victory.
@k4tzm4n said:
Daredevil and Frank. IMHO Frank is the weak link, but he's still capable of giving either opponent a tough time - so it's not a major hindrance to his team. Meanwhile, Daredevil is the clear MVP, being able to defeat Hawkeye or Moon Knight. Assuming Frank is still holding his own at this point (which is likely), Daredevil can then assist him and seal the victory.
Whoops, my bad. Agreed in whole.
@k4tzm4n said:
Daredevil and Frank. IMHO Frank is the weak link, but he's still capable of giving either opponent a tough time - so it's not a major hindrance to his team. Meanwhile, Daredevil is the clear MVP, being able to defeat Hawkeye or Moon Knight. Assuming Frank is still holding his own at this point (which is likely), Daredevil can then assist him and seal the victory.
@god_spawn said:
@k4tzm4n said:
Daredevil and Frank. IMHO Frank is the weak link, but he's still capable of giving either opponent a tough time - so it's not a major hindrance to his team. Meanwhile, Daredevil is the clear MVP, being able to defeat Hawkeye or Moon Knight. Assuming Frank is still holding his own at this point (which is likely), Daredevil can then assist him and seal the victory.
Aside from thinking MK is the weak link, I'd agree with this.
Osh kosh bagosh, Marc takes Frank to funky town. And by funk town I mean he kicks him in the face a few times.
But honestly, they're pretty close in a lot of regards, but I think Marc's superior agility, slight edge in h2h (superior feats IMHO) and variety of gear would allow him to best Frank in a good fight. It wouldn't be a significant majority and Marc could likely walk away with some significant injuries, but I think he has what it takes to bring down the Punisher.
Then again, a big factor is what you consider standard gear for Castle. I'm viewing this as he has a standard assortment of regular firearms (pistols, submachine guns) and knives.
@k4tzm4n: I actually misread your post. I have zero idea why I thought you said MK when you said Frank. Personally, I think Hawkeye is the weak link here. While Clint is probably the most accurate here, I don't think Punisher is THAT far behind him and due to Frank's penchant for more brutal methods, his own accuracy feats can put him in a good spot against either or if he can keep range and he could potentially beat Hawkeye in that department IMO. Plus he can hold off either and potentially beat at least Hawkeye in close ranged combat. Hawkeye will definitely restrict his shots and gear and I see him falling tremendously short of Daredevil and he may have more potential in h2h fighting say against the likes of Frank, but I haven't seen anything to show it yet.
With Daredevil's insane fighting/acrobatic skills coupled with Punisher's superior gear, I'd say team one takes this.
Frank is well respected for a reason. (his gear,and prep), but i really don't see him out aiming either Hawkeye or Moonknight. I see Frank getting basically one shotted. Leaving Daredevil to dodge all of hawkeyes, and moonknight's shots until he can get close enough to force one of them to fight h2h. Which is possible for him, but not really likely.
I like team 2.
Replace frank with Taskmaster for a free win imo.
.......Wait... if Frank shows up in a tank.....
Daredevil vs. Moon Knight: After a semi-decent fight, Daredevil would win.
Daredevil vs. Hawkeye: Once Daredevil got close, which wouldn't take long, it's over for clint.
Punisher vs. Moon Knight: An extremely good fight. The best in this IMO. Moon Knight would win, but he'd be in no condition to keep fighting after.
Punisher vs. Hawkeye: I'd say that they're pretty even with their marksmen ship. But Punisher is a superior fighter and is brutal. He'd take down hawkeye after a decent fight.
So... Daredevil and punisher win 3/4 times.
@god_spawn: Castle would loose pretty fast in a ranged match against Clint. Hawkeye has too big of an advantage with his trick arrows, superior accuracy, and rapid firing. Not to mention the fact that he can curve arrows and can shoot accurately without looking.
Also, Frank is slightly better in the H2H department, IMO.
@Strafe Prower: I don't think Frank would lose that fast to Clint. I can see where he loses though. Regardless, I'm not up for much of a debate so I'll concede to the point that I was wrong on Clint being the weak link and I agree that Frank is the better fighter, I even said that.
@Dane said:
Daredevil solos.
interesting, and possible
@They Killed Cap! said:
Isn't Daredevil close to spiderman when it comes to his agility and responsiveness.
yeah, he has the radar sense and excellent hearing/other senses, and he is very agile and fast. That's why he can constantly dodge Bullseye's attacks.
@k4tzm4n said:
Daredevil and Frank. IMHO Frank is the weak link, but he's still capable of giving either opponent a tough time - so it's not a major hindrance to his team. Meanwhile, Daredevil is the clear MVP, being able to defeat Hawkeye or Moon Knight. Assuming Frank is still holding his own at this point (which is likely), Daredevil can then assist him and seal the victory.
Hmmm....
Frank would have an extremely difficult time against Moon Knight and Hawkeye. In fact, I do think that Moon Knight could take Frank in hand to hand, and Hawkeye is far superior at Long and Mid range.
If they take down Frank first and fast (which could be possible), and take on Daredevil together then they could perhaps defeat him. But they would have a really hard time fighting Murdock here, and I just dont think they would have enough edge.
I have to say that is still goes to Daredevil and Frank.
@Moon_Bat_87 said:
@k4tzm4n said:
Daredevil and Frank. IMHO Frank is the weak link, but he's still capable of giving either opponent a tough time - so it's not a major hindrance to his team. Meanwhile, Daredevil is the clear MVP, being able to defeat Hawkeye or Moon Knight. Assuming Frank is still holding his own at this point (which is likely), Daredevil can then assist him and seal the victory.
Hmmm....
Frank would have an extremely difficult time against Moon Knight and Hawkeye. In fact, I do think that Moon Knight could take Frank in hand to hand, and Hawkeye is far superior at Long and Mid range.
If they take down Frank first and fast (which could be possible), and take on Daredevil together then they could perhaps defeat him. But they would have a really hard time fighting Murdock here, and I just dont think they would have enough edge.
I have to say that is still goes to Daredevil and Frank.
I think you misunderstood me because what you said is essentially what I said.
@k4tzm4n said:
@Moon_Bat_87 said:
@k4tzm4n said:
Daredevil and Frank. IMHO Frank is the weak link, but he's still capable of giving either opponent a tough time - so it's not a major hindrance to his team. Meanwhile, Daredevil is the clear MVP, being able to defeat Hawkeye or Moon Knight. Assuming Frank is still holding his own at this point (which is likely), Daredevil can then assist him and seal the victory.
Hmmm....
Frank would have an extremely difficult time against Moon Knight and Hawkeye. In fact, I do think that Moon Knight could take Frank in hand to hand, and Hawkeye is far superior at Long and Mid range.
If they take down Frank first and fast (which could be possible), and take on Daredevil together then they could perhaps defeat him. But they would have a really hard time fighting Murdock here, and I just dont think they would have enough edge.
I have to say that is still goes to Daredevil and Frank.
I think you misunderstood me because what you said is essentially what I said.
No, I understood you. I was agreeing with you, and reiterating it in my own words.
@k4tzm4n said:
@Moon_Bat_87: Ah, guess I missed the edit. I thought the PM of the message said you disagree.
Yeah, I figured that was what you were meaning. Sorry. Should have made sure to edit it faster.
@k4tzm4n said:
Daredevil and Frank. IMHO Frank is the weak link, but he's still capable of giving either opponent a tough time - so it's not a major hindrance to his team. Meanwhile, Daredevil is the clear MVP, being able to defeat Hawkeye or Moon Knight. Assuming Frank is still holding his own at this point (which is likely), Daredevil can then assist him and seal the victory.
I find myself agreeing with this
team one. daredevil makes it an easy win here an frank with the right gear would even make it easier even though he is the weak link here it seems
This is a nice match-up. Team 2 could have a good chance of winning this depending on the starting distance, due to Hawkeye. But, as it isn't stated, I'll say Team 1, because if it is a close combat, I don't see how they will lose.
Not to mention daredevil has easily caught arrows Ike pollen in the wind..and he dodges bullets with ease..hawkeye could never tag daredevil
Than I might give it to team 2 than...As mentioned punisher is probably the weak link. If hawkeye has sonic arrows they could do a lot of damage to daredevil. IIRC they did in 1 battle hawkeye had with daredevil (all though it didn't knock daredevil out it did leave him vulnerable for a bit).
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