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#1  Edited By Edgeworth_11

No shield or club. Just H2H on the rooftops of Hell's Kitchen. They start 30 feet apart.

Round 1 comic versions.

Round 2 movie versions.

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#2  Edited By Dex_Starr

Captain America wins both.

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#3  Edited By Edgeworth_11

@Hohenheim_of_light: Care to elaborate? Without his shield, doesn't Matt have better fighting skills, and still has his amazing senses. I know Cap is above in the strength, endurance department.

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#4  Edited By k4tzm4n  Moderator

Dudebro, done countless times.

And like Hohenheim said, Rogers wins.

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#5  Edited By Dex_Starr

@Edgeworth_11 said:

@Hohenheim_of_light: Care to elaborate? Without his shield, doesn't Matt have better fighting skills, and still has his amazing senses. I know Cap is above in the strength, endurance department.

Daredevil doesn't have better fighting skills, at the very best he might be on par with Cap. As far as his senses go they've never worked on characters like Cap like they would against regular canon fodder enemies. It's still helpful but Cap has bigger advantages in his strength, stamina and speed all in which he outclasses Daredevil in.

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#6  Edited By morpheus_  Moderator
Cap once said that DD while slacking skill-wise is still better than just about everyone else. Just saying.
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#7  Edited By Edgeworth_11

@k4tzm4n said:

Dudebro, done countless times.

And like Hohenheim said, Rogers wins.

Even H2H, dudebro?

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#8  Edited By k4tzm4n  Moderator

@Edgeworth_11: ....yes, as implied by agreeing with Hohenheim.

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#9  Edited By Edgeworth_11

Just watched the Daredevil directors cut last night, was quite good! loved it! i wonder why they cut out that much of the movie in the theatrical version :(

If you haven't seen the Blue Ray Director's cut, WHATCHA WAITING FOR!!? :D

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#10  Edited By Edgeworth_11

@k4tzm4n: No,silly, I meant if this fight was already done H2H way.:P

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#11  Edited By k4tzm4n  Moderator

That film is a guilty pleasure of mine.

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@Hohenheim_of_light said:

Captain America wins both.

This.

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#13  Edited By Edgeworth_11

@k4tzm4n said:

That film is a guilty pleasure of mine.

Yes, I was probably saddest that a sequel didn't come out :P but if you haven't seen the directors cut, check it out with like over twenty minutes of extra content that makes the film even better.

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#14  Edited By entropy_aegis

@Morpheus_ said:

Cap once said that DD while slacking skill-wise is still better than just about everyone else. Just saying.

Please elaborate.How can DD lack the skill and yet still be better than just about everyone else?

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#15  Edited By Dex_Starr

@k4tzm4n said:

That film is a guilty pleasure of mine.

It would of been better without Drowning Pool and Evanescence

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#16  Edited By Edgeworth_11

@Hohenheim_of_light said:

@k4tzm4n said:

That film is a guilty pleasure of mine.

It would of been better without Drowning Pool and Evanescence

all this time I can't believe I couldn't see

kept in the dark but you were there in front of me

I’ve been sleeping a thousand years it seems

got to open my eyes to everything

Without a thought, without a voice, without a soul

don't let me die here

there must be something more

bring me to life

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#17  Edited By morpheus_  Moderator
@entropy_aegis said:

@Morpheus_ said:

Cap once said that DD while slacking skill-wise is still better than just about everyone else. Just saying.

Please elaborate.How can DD lack the skill and yet still be better than just about everyone else?

DD was mind controlled and therefore was not applying his skill at the best of his ability, but Cap deemed that even the mind controlled and sluggish DD is being better than just about everyone else. I'll have to check the issue for the exact quote, and get back to you.
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#19  Edited By emperorznb

Captain America is slightly better than Daredevil in my opinion...

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#20  Edited By entropy_aegis

@Morpheus_ said:

@entropy_aegis said:

@Morpheus_ said:

Cap once said that DD while slacking skill-wise is still better than just about everyone else. Just saying.

Please elaborate.How can DD lack the skill and yet still be better than just about everyone else?

DD was mind controlled and therefore was not applying his skill at the best of his ability, but Cap deemed that even the mind controlled and sluggish DD is being better than just about everyone else. I'll have to check the issue for the exact quote, and get back to you.

Is'nt that kinda like Ra's calling Bane the most dangerous man alive?lol.

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#21  Edited By morpheus_  Moderator
@entropy_aegis said:

@Morpheus_ said:

@entropy_aegis said:

@Morpheus_ said:

Cap once said that DD while slacking skill-wise is still better than just about everyone else. Just saying.

Please elaborate.How can DD lack the skill and yet still be better than just about everyone else?

DD was mind controlled and therefore was not applying his skill at the best of his ability, but Cap deemed that even the mind controlled and sluggish DD is being better than just about everyone else. I'll have to check the issue for the exact quote, and get back to you.

Is'nt that kinda like Ra's calling Bane the most dangerous man alive?lol.

Well, the one is applicable to multiple aspects of the characters (intellect, resources, applications have a lot to do with it), while the other is strictly referring to a single one (ie skill), so I'd take Cap's statement more at face value. Not that I believe it's a reason why Daredevil would win but it's very high praise.
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#22  Edited By entropy_aegis

@Morpheus_ said:

@entropy_aegis said:

@Morpheus_ said:

@entropy_aegis said:

@Morpheus_ said:

Cap once said that DD while slacking skill-wise is still better than just about everyone else. Just saying.

Please elaborate.How can DD lack the skill and yet still be better than just about everyone else?

DD was mind controlled and therefore was not applying his skill at the best of his ability, but Cap deemed that even the mind controlled and sluggish DD is being better than just about everyone else. I'll have to check the issue for the exact quote, and get back to you.

Is'nt that kinda like Ra's calling Bane the most dangerous man alive?lol.

Well, the one is applicable to multiple aspects of the characters (intellect, resources, applications have a lot to do with it), while the other is strictly referring to a single one (ie skill), so I'd take Cap's statement more at face value. Not that I believe it's a reason why Daredevil would win but it's very high praise.

Which comic is that from btw?

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#23  Edited By k4tzm4n  Moderator

@Hohenheim_of_light said:

@k4tzm4n said:

That film is a guilty pleasure of mine.

It would of been better without Drowning Pool and Evanescence

Yeah, Bullseye on the bike + Drowning Pool made me go :-/

I didn't mind Evanescence, seeing as I liked them when the movie came out :X

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#24  Edited By entropy_aegis

@k4tzm4n said:

@Hohenheim_of_light said:

@k4tzm4n said:

That film is a guilty pleasure of mine.

It would of been better without Drowning Pool and Evanescence

Yeah, Bullseye on the bike + Drowning Pool made me go :-/

I didn't mind Evanescence, seeing as I liked them when the movie came out :X

I loved the Evanescence song,but now i think it's waay too overused.

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#25  Edited By morpheus_  Moderator
@entropy_aegis: @entropy_aegis: Captain America/Daredevil: Dead on Arrival. Same issue that proves Cap can fight while blindfolded.
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#26  Edited By entropy_aegis

@Morpheus_ said:

@entropy_aegis: @entropy_aegis: Captain America/Daredevil: Dead on Arrival. Same issue that proves Cap can fight while blindfolded.

Thanks.

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#27  Edited By morpheus_  Moderator
@entropy_aegis: The story isn't anything special, but it was cool feat-wise, for both.
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#28  Edited By spidey 15

In h2h, i believe it will be either 5/5 or cap gets a slight majority. I believe h2h, they are even but cap's superior stats might give him the advantage. Of course that's assuming that DD's senses won't help him to even the score.

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#29  Edited By owie  Moderator

Comic version, no weapons, I think DD could take Cap maybe 7/10. I think DD's skills are higher and Cap's normal fighting style is more dependant on using his shield than DD's is on his billy clubs. Also, Cap just doesn't do street level fights with the consistence and intensity that DD does. Basically DD is always fighting street levelers which I think would keep him in top form. Whereas Cap is always off saving the universe from the Infinity Gauntlet or some such. He fights street levelers, of course, but not against villains of such consistently high level as DD's foes.

Movie version, I think Cap takes it. His strength and speed were enhanced way beyond the comic version.

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#30  Edited By MyronLee26

In Hand-to-Hand fighting, I'd give Captain America a slight edge. Daredevil has a pretty impressive resume in the guys that he's defeated, hell, he even took down Mephisto. Lol.

It just sucks how the fights that Cap has been in with Daredevil, DD was most of the time hindered in some way, even the time where Daredevil stormed the Avengers mansion, DD was brainwashed.

But if it came down to it where they were not holding back, No Shield, No Billy Club, I'd give this one to Captain America.

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#31  Edited By progenitorigin

Going with the Captain on this one, Matt is good, but he still lost against a brainwashed Cap.

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#32  Edited By Phaedrusgr

@Morpheus_: DD one said he wouldn't enjoy a fight with Cap, feeling that Steve is playing with big boys not being a street leveler as DD is. 90s, DD was chasing a crazy guy having an american flag on his face, named Nuke. Cool stories. So, I think that Cap could beat Daredevil, but I won't say it'll be an easy one.

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#33  Edited By morpheus_  Moderator
Cap also lost to an out of control Daredevil. By the way, Matt was feigning defeat against Cap in Street of Poison.
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#34  Edited By morpheus_  Moderator
@Phaedrusgr said:

@Morpheus_: DD one said he wouldn't enjoy a fight with Cap, feeling that Steve is playing with big boys not being a street leveler as DD is.

I don't remember it. Do you recall an issue # off hand?
 

 DD was chasing a crazy guy having an american flag on his face, named Nuke. Cool stories.


 
In Born Again? That was in the 80s, and I agree it's a cool story.

 So, I think that Cap could beat Daredevil, but I won't say it'll be an easy one.


 
I think the same, just playing devil's advocate.
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#35  Edited By Fetts

I agree. Cap should take this.

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#36  Edited By Edgeworth_11

Everyone needs to give the devil his due.

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#37  Edited By Phaedrusgr

@Morpheus_: Man, it was 80s? Damn, I'm old... lol

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#38  Edited By spidey 15

@progenitor said:

Going with the Captain on this one, Matt is good, but he still lost against a brainwashed Cap.

If you are talking about street of poison fight, it was pretty circumstantial and it kinda favored cap. DD was not really at his best at the time( as he has stated ) and cap was almost bloodlusted, But even at these conditions, Matt was not doing that bad, since he was able to dodge or land some hits on cap and even threw his shield away.

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#39  Edited By RaidenAzreal

Cap is is the best. He would take DD down fast.

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#40  Edited By Erik

@k4tzm4n said:

That film is a guilty pleasure of mine.

Sinner!

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#41  Edited By spidey 15

@RaidenAzreal: He was never able to put him down fast in any of their fights, how would he do it now?

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#42  Edited By morpheus_  Moderator
@spidey 15 said:

@RaidenAzreal: He was never able to put him down fast in any of their fights, how would he do it now?

:)

Charisma.
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@Morpheus_ said:

Charisma.

Carpenter.

Mmm...

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#44  Edited By spidey 15

@Morpheus_: LOL, something that i don't think that cap posses for that specific fight...

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#45  Edited By yumyumbubblegum

Comic: Captain America

Movie: Daredevil

Captain America the movie has to be one of the worst comic adaptations ever. It was extremely ironic when the plot tried to divert the character of Steve Rogers from being a mere propaganda tool, but when you finish watching the movie, the lack of substance makes the movie as a whole just that. My biggest qualm with the movie is the lack of physical training that Steve Rogers undertakes within the movie. The after credit scene shows Steve boxing like a pro, and the director expects us to believe that those motor skills also come from the serum?

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#46  Edited By god_spawn  Moderator

@Andy Steven Summers said:

@Morpheus_ said:

Charisma.

Carpenter.

Mmm...

I second this.

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#47  Edited By god_spawn  Moderator

Steve after an awesome fight.

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#48  Edited By spidey 15

@Andy Steven Summers said:

@Morpheus_ said:

Charisma.

Carpenter.

Mmm...

ROFL...XD

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Comic versions, for the most part they are fairly even due to DD enhanced senses, but Cap will still win the slight majority.   
Movie versions, I'm only half way through Captain America (not a good idea to start watching a movie at midnight when you are already almost totally asleep), but with that initial run when he first got enhanced, I'm gonna have to give this to him as well {with a slightly larger margin than the comic versions}....and I will be watching the rest of the movie tonight :) 

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#50  Edited By D3athstroke

Daredevil