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#1 Edited by Subline (6278 posts) - - Show Bio
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Rules:

  • Roy is unarmed, Matt gets his Billy Clubs from Season 2.
  • Matt is in his prime.
  • Roy gets all feats from all seasons for skill / speed.
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#2 Posted by jashro44 (51888 posts) - - Show Bio

I don't think Matt can put him down.

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#4 Edited by JacenSolo77 (922 posts) - - Show Bio

Roy stomps.

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#5 Posted by ANTHP2000 (24932 posts) - - Show Bio

Matt is never going to come close to staggering him. You should give him his Billy Club, he'd win with it allowing him to strangle Roy.

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#6 Posted by AsphaltAirborne (779 posts) - - Show Bio

I think Roy would win eventually

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#8 Posted by The_Kidd (11563 posts) - - Show Bio

Roy, even if Matt try to strangle him Roy should be able to break his grip.

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#9 Posted by ANTHP2000 (24932 posts) - - Show Bio

Matt now..

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#10 Posted by JacenSolo77 (922 posts) - - Show Bio

Roy doesn't stomp but he still wins.

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#11 Posted by maestromage (1000 posts) - - Show Bio

Roy definitely wins. He has decent skill himself and his physicals w/ mirakuru are way above Matt's.

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#12 Posted by AngelJax (11425 posts) - - Show Bio

Mismatch

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#13 Posted by AngelJax (11425 posts) - - Show Bio

Matt is never going to come close to staggering him. You should give him his Billy Club, he'd win with it allowing him to strangle Roy.

Matt now..

Did Paytience hack you?

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#14 Posted by ANTHP2000 (24932 posts) - - Show Bio

@angeljax: Really? He'd hack me and I'd say Matt wins? REALLY?

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#15 Posted by AllStarSuperman (42883 posts) - - Show Bio

Did Matt ever strangle someone with his line?

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#16 Posted by jashro44 (51888 posts) - - Show Bio

Did Matt ever strangle someone with his line?

He's wrapped it around Nobu's throat but he threw him off a building instead of strangling him.

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#17 Posted by DanielDaRipper (5192 posts) - - Show Bio

@jashro44 said:
@allstarsuperman said:

Did Matt ever strangle someone with his line?

He's wrapped it around Nobu's throat but he threw him off a building instead of strangling him.

There was also his interrogation of Sowande.

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#18 Posted by Amcu (15890 posts) - - Show Bio

I don't see Matt beating any Mirakuru users.

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#19 Posted by jayc1324 (26418 posts) - - Show Bio

How can a normal human beat a Mirakuru guy in hand to hand? A skill advantage can only go so far, and Matt is not strong enough to strangle him. Roy can just pull the wire of the clubs off of him.

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#20 Edited by Stormdriven (17608 posts) - - Show Bio

Matt can’t do anything to put him down

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#21 Posted by thehunter (3360 posts) - - Show Bio

@jayc1324 said:

How can a normal human beat a Mirakuru guy in hand to hand? A skill advantage can only go so far, and Matt is not strong enough to strangle him. Roy can just pull the wire of the clubs off of him.

Matt is hardly a normal human.

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#22 Posted by Mutant1230 (6299 posts) - - Show Bio

Roy beats him up

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#23 Posted by buildhare (8573 posts) - - Show Bio

Oliver easily avoided his strikes in S2 and Matt's better in every conceivable way than he was at that point. Only way he can lose this is if he takes a dive.

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#24 Posted by jashro44 (51888 posts) - - Show Bio

Oliver easily avoided his strikes in S2 and Matt's better in every conceivable way than he was at that point. Only way he can lose this is if he takes a dive.

He dodges his strikes and than what? Also the OP says he gets skill feats from all seasons.

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#25 Posted by RBT (26698 posts) - - Show Bio

Oliver easily avoided his strikes in S2 and Matt's better in every conceivable way than he was at that point. Only way he can lose this is if he takes a dive.

Oliver still had better stats. He was still faster(or just as fast). He had comparable skill. And Oliver couldn't have put Roy down in h2h either.

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#26 Posted by buildhare (8573 posts) - - Show Bio

@jashro44 said:
@buildhare said:

Oliver easily avoided his strikes in S2 and Matt's better in every conceivable way than he was at that point. Only way he can lose this is if he takes a dive.

He dodges his strikes and than what? Also the OP says he gets skill feats from all seasons.

My point was he was no threat to him at all, the only time he was was when Oliver talked instead of fought. Roy doesn't exactly have a long line of durability feats on Mirk so arguing Matt can't hurt him doesn't make a lot of sense.

Although knowing that last bit means he wins.

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#27 Posted by CelestialKnight (1437 posts) - - Show Bio

Roy.

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#28 Posted by jashro44 (51888 posts) - - Show Bio

@buildhare:

My point was he was no threat to him at all, the only time he was was when Oliver talked instead of fought.

He was able to block and defeat Sara when she was trying to kill him when he was a mindless brute. He also caught an arrow.

Roy doesn't exactly have a long line of durability feats on Mirk so arguing Matt can't hurt him doesn't make a lot of sense. Although knowing that last bit means he wins.

He doesn't from what I remember but when you consider the durability of all mirakuru users I don't see Matt dropping any of them with his bare hands. He probably isn't massively far off from the others. Isabel Roshev seemed to be the weakest mirakuru user but even she was able to shrug off being rammed by a van.He also has a healing factor. Matt couldn't even knock out Nobu who is less super human than Roy is honestly.

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#29 Posted by The_Magister (13204 posts) - - Show Bio

Roy wrecks. He's not quite as skilled as Matt, but he has sufficient skill to complement his massive stats edge.