Aside from the fight with Mundus, he really doesn't have many feats proving he is FTL. Plus that doesn't stop him from getting mindraped. Dante can't even hurt a composite Bowser so it's not like his speed or weaponry matter. Bowser can spam clones with Double Cherries, combined said power up with another one along with making himself invulnerable with the Star Rod. Power Stars give him a plethora of powers which include teleportation, meteor spawning, and creation of galaxies and planets.So Dante has weaponry like Samus? I played through most of the DMC games now and he really doesn't. They are nothing in comparison. Dante has TP like Mewtwo? We both already know the answer to that so moving on, and i don't recall Dante being capable of spamming clones, reality warping to an extent and the ability to transmute an opponent, along with summoning an army of magicians that can easily do the same. Plus it's bad enough he has power stars and the Star Rod which make him a near unstoppable force in comparison to Dante.
There is no evidence that it cannot be dispelled by magic.
Not really.....aside from his speed, there isn't much feats he has that puts him above Bowser in Durability, Mewtwo in PURE REACTION SPEED and TP strength or Samus in weaponry.
Neither have i with anybody on team 1......
I see what you're saying. The issue still stands, however, that Dante has gear that the rest of the team would not be able to counter either. Not to mention that Bowser, despite his invincibility, doesn't have an answer to Jackpot.
Except that it's more the opponents he fights that are helllords and not himself. Most helllords like Mephisto and Satannish are outright reality warpers or planet busters with insane levels of power beyond what Mundus himself was capable of.
I disagree. Kamiya already confirmed that Mundus created a universe which is already something that is somewhat above Mephisto's level.
If Dante is indeed a helllord he's a low-tier hell lord. I seen you and Neon make arguments that Dante would stomp Mephisto in his own realm with nothing to really back it up.
1) Mephisto has been a jobber for the longest time now. Even Alejandra was able to beat Mephisto without using Zarathos early in her career.
2) Neon is the one who argues this more than I do, and is much more knowledgeable on the fight than me. If you want to know more about this, you should ask him.
I have no idea how a fight between Dante and Mephisto would go, and I have no interest in it anyway. All I can say is that, considering how Dante outmatches Ghost Rider in almost every way, if Ghost Rider can do it, so can Dante.
I can agree that Dante is meant to be portrayed as way more powerful, but i highly doubt he is as powerful as most hell lords. A lot of them from what i seen being way above Thanos who i know for a fact would stomp Dante as well.
Well yes, Thanos would stomp Dante, but there's no shame in that considering Thanos regularly stomps Transcendent/Hell-lord level opponents.
And to clarify I think our definitions of "Hell-lord" are different. The Transcendent/Hell-lord tier is what I would consider to include characters that can easily beat or nearly stomp Superman or Thor level opponents. That would include guys like Silver Surfer, Wally West, Martian Manhunter, Magneto (full power), Zarathos, Darkseid, H'el etc. Basically, it's characters that fill the gap between Herald and Skyfather.
So guys like Mephisto (in his realm), Trigon, Dormammu, etc. are all characters I would consider to be either Skyfather level or above (especially in Dormammu's case).
But to be honest Deathhero, me, Neon, and some of the other users are not the only ones who think Dante has a shot against Mephisto. Even Capcom, the developer responsible for creating Dante and overseeing the DMC's official canon material, believes Dante to be a god tier character. In several crossover games that were overseen by Capcom, Dante:
- stomps demi-fiend twice and fights Lucifer
- has some impressive feats in Project X Zone with his partner Demitiri from Darkstalkers in some high tier battles
- and to top it all off, he has an ending in Ultimate Marvel vs Capcom 3 where he scares Mephisto into doing a favor for him and beats Mephisto in his realm along with Ghost Rider and Trish. Not to mention that Ghost Rider is considered his rival throughout the series.
Dude you know me, i'm probably the only one who would have an open mind towards him anyway. Go ahead.
BTW i was probably going to side with Team 1 anyway but there is no way he is soloing.
The thing is that Dante is above Herald characters, such as Superman and Thor who I thought could solo. I will trust your judgment however, and concede my original claim under the condition that you believe that characters around Superman's level could not solo either. Otherwise, I'm backing Dante on soloing.
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