Dangai Ichigo vs Stampede Luffy vs Ignia Natsu

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  • In character for all.
  • Verse equalization.
  • The battle takes place on top of Aldoron.
  • No knowledge.
  • Random encounter.

Round 2: Aldoron doesn't like the ants on his head. He attacks all three with his bean sprouts but will leave the last one standing alone. The characters also have to fight one another. Who wins?

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It's between Luffy and Ichigo. Stampede Luffy is much faster than the others with Future Sight on top while I would give Ichigo the raw power and durability advantage outside of Luffy's KKKG.

Luffy takes Round 2 due to speed, Aldoron isn't tagging him at all.

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Either Ichigo or Luffy

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Either Ichigo or Luffy

Try and give reasons my guy.

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It's between Luffy and Ichigo. Stampede Luffy is much faster than the others with Future Sight on top while I would give Ichigo the raw power and durability advantage outside of Luffy's KKKG.

Luffy takes Round 2 due to speed, Aldoron isn't tagging him at all.

They also have to fight one another in round two... not just Aldoron.

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#8 cocacolaman  Moderator

I'll argue for Natsu just for the fun of it.

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Luffy is faster than Sub-Rel characters ok.

Ichigo blitzes and stomps as usual

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I'll argue for Natsu just for the fun of it.

Luffy is faster than Sub-Rel characters ok.

Ichigo blitzes and stomps as usual

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Any reasons on both sides? C'mon man... make this thread actually a good debate.

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Natsu solos

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Reasons?? Okay

Speed:

Luffy and Ichigo would pretty much be in the same range, with Luffy having the advantage bcuz of O-Haki. Natsu is behind them

Durability:

Again, Luffy (cuz of the movie feats) and Ichigo would be in the same range of large island-small country lv. natsu falling behind with his island+ lv

Raw power/AP:

Ichigo is in the lead, Luffy is next then Natsu

So either Luffy or Ichigo,

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Natsu >>> Luffy >>> Ichigo. So Natsu will go hulk mode and smash the living crap out of them.

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#15  Edited By Gilateen

Yeah its between Ichigo and Stampede luffy.

Striking Power: Ichigo

Speed and Durability: Luffy

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@wot_m8: Bruh telling FT and OP fans that their MC loses to Ichigo is like telling Dr. Pepper & Pepsi fans that Coke is better.

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Ichigo > Luffy > Natsu

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#19 cocacolaman  Moderator

@wot_m8: Bruh telling FT and OP fans that their MC loses to Ichigo is like telling Dr. Pepper & Pepsi fans that Coke is better.

Was that a sublim?

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#20  Edited By Woodward

No adult would get angry over forum opinion on which fictional character win. For op's sake, I'll say my reasons why Natsu wins this.

Base Natsu no-sold Kiria's blade magic without a scratch. Kiria's blade magic is on par with Erza's slash feats as shown by their equal spar, which means Kiria's blade magic scales to Erza's slash feats, one of which is her pre time-skip feat of piercing through Tartaros's cube island. A post-time skip version of Erza enchanted by Wendy could not scratch through Dragon Irene's scales. Ignia Natsu's scales >>> Dragon Irene's scales, which essentially means Natsu no-sells all of Ichigo's hill slashes.

As far as blunt durability is concerned, Ignia Natsu no-sold a tail slap from Mercuphobia. Mercuphobia's physical strength >>> Dragon Irene's, who was shown to physically oneshot Erza with a mere tap.Same as above, Ignia Natsu no-sells all of Luffy's hits as well.

Durability being out of the way, Natsu's attacking power is miles above what these two have got to offer, especially with Luffy's low heat resistance and Fragor (if it's heat-based to begin with) fucked up Ichigo. Natsu would one-shot them.

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Leaning towards Luffy do to speed and stamina

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#22 Edgelord91  Online

Also shouldn’t this be true shikai?

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#23 Edgelord91  Online

@wot_m8: are there any special conditions because ichigo can honestly just wait for the other 2 to revert to base form.

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#25  Edited By exauce

Luffy destroys he broke an island apart

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Fold a city with a punch while not even hitting the ground

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For heat durability, he was able to tank Akainu magma while half-dead, which we all know can vape steel

Plus he has Haki which will easily protect him from natsu heats

And for Slash and piercing durability same Luffy has Haki easily Blocking them so he destroys

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Well my knowledge on bleach is limited, but since people are practically saying this Ichigo is comparable or above Luffy. Ignia Natsu shouldn’t have a problem stomping both.

AP wise he scales above both DGs, who are country lvl. So he shouldn’t have a problem, destroying them with his flames. Physically he scales to Deus Sama, so a physical battle shouldn’t be a problem.

His durability should automatically scale to his AP.

Speed wise, he should be sub-rel scaling above Laxus, Erza, & the DGs we’ve seen so far.

Round 2 - Natsu takes down all three. Natsu already stomped a DG. Aldo so far hasn’t been stated to be above or show anything to suggest he’s above Merc. Natsu probably won’t ragdoll Aldo so at least Aldo has that heh...

Basically, Ignia Natsu > Aldo >>> Ichigo & Luffy

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@yamatama: i'm kinda bored right so i just wanna reply to ur post for fun so at least I have something to do

AP wise he scales above both DGs, who are country lvl. So he shouldn’t have a problem, destroying them with his flames. Physically he scales to Deus Sama, so a physical battle shouldn’t be a problem.

He doesn't scale above any dragon since Mercu was only at 50% of his power meaning that he would only scale to half of his power so not country lvl as u may think, his don't know much for Ichigo but Luffy easily tank them using Haki so that wouldn't really be a problem. Deus sama physically he no where near either Luffy or Ichigo so it doesn't really matter if he scale close to him or not.

His durability should automatically scale to his AP.

huh no it doesn't work like that my man

Speed wise, he should be sub-rel scaling above Laxus, Erza, & the DGs we’ve seen so far.

How does he? and even if he did he will still get blitz by both Luffy and Ichi

Round 2 - Natsu takes down all three. Natsu already stomped a DG. Aldo so far hasn’t been stated to be above or show anything to suggest he’s above Merc. Natsu probably won’t ragdoll Aldo so at least Aldo has that heh...

Natsu beats a Mercu at 50% of his power meaning all just said is irrelevant

Basically, Ignia Natsu > Aldo >>> Ichigo & Luffy

Same for here

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Ichigo one-shots :sips_tea:

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Natsu > Ichigo >> Luffy.

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@exauce: Merc was only holding back before Natsu got the Ignia boost.

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@yamatama: Merc had half his power stolen by that white hair girl meaning he was only at 50% of his power Also meaning Ignia Natsu in'st country as u may think

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@exauce: No such thing was done. She took control of his magic not take away %50.

Ignia himself stated that Merc was the one holding back & then Wendy implies Merc goes all out once Ignia Natsu comes out.

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Ichigo > Luffy > Natsu.

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@exauce: It’s literally explained that WW doesn’t take the magic power but the power to control it or restriction. Allowing her to make them her servants.

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@exauce: Because Merc is holding back & then when Ignia Natsu comes out. It’s implied by Wendy that Merc goes all out. Considering even his roar against Ignia Natsu looked different to his roar against Base Natsu.

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#39  Edited By exauce

@yamatama: What u talking about the man is being controlled by the white mage how would he be holdings back? tell me how? he is out of control my man

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@exauce: Because we see it happen with FT guild on Aldo....they are under her control yet still have the ability to hold back & use full power.

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#41  Edited By exauce

@yamatama: huh no my man, if u referring to this panel

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It just a serious roar from him at half of his power my man

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@exauce: No where does it say that roar was a serious one at half his power....Wendy just says a serious roar. Implying he’s going all out

Not only this but WW has no reason to make him only use half, when she legit wanted Wendy dead.

Only logical conclusion is that Merc decided half was enough to kill them, but proceeded to go all out once his life was in danger against Ignia Natsu.

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@yamatama: huh, no the man was half his power the entire time and no where it was stated that he was at full power, and even Ignia himself said that and he knows what he is talking about, so just stop my man just stop

And the logical conclusion is the man his firing a serious roar at 50% of his power, my Ignia Natsu is not country since the evidence suggests is below if not way below

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@exauce: Okay just straight up ignore how WW’s power was explained to work.

I keep forgetting you’re a troll.

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@yamatama: Ignores what? the panels are right there u are the one ignoring them not wanting to believe Ignia Natsu in'st as strong as u think

Yea of course

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@exauce: Damn at least you admitted to trolling.

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#47  Edited By exauce

@yamatama: Stupid, how am i trolling? u should probably look up what trolling mean my man

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Lol these guys.

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Stampede luffy 2 fast,at the bare minimum hes relativistic+ and can be argued to LS with future sight/ coO haki he's much faster in reaction can spam thousands of island busters in seconds and KKKKG having AP at least in the triple digit teratons.

Luffy>>ichigo>>natsu