Vs.
I repeat Base Sage of Six paths Naruto he cannot enter his chakra mode
Round 1: In character
Round 2: Bloodlusted
Naruto has all of the tail beast chakra and sage sensing, so lava rasenshuriken for the win. I don't think ichigo has shown island+ level durability in this form.
Naruto in base blitzed and fucked up pre God tree Juubidara.
This is a mismatch that needs to be locked.
Naruto has all of the tail beast chakra and sage sensing, so lava rasenshuriken for the win. I don't think ichigo has shown island+ level durability in this form.
Ya, Naruto definitely has the DC advantage here. He has enough speed and strength to take Madara off guard and crack a good portion of the god tree, so while he might not be able to beat dangai Ichigo with his bare hands, he should be fast enough, especially with sage sensing, to dodge and land his lava rasenshuriken, which Ichigo can't survive.
Naruto probably too powerful. He's = in speed and could be greater in durability and definitely greater in DC. He is also way too versatile. I'll pick Naruto for now.
@ultimatesage: I Agree with you with this dude, Naruto for my taste
@b_r023: That was Madara after almost dying and not expecting Naruto to be that fast. I agree that's arguably enough to make Naruto faster than Ichigo, but lets not pretend Naruto without his kyuubi cloak would actually have a chance against that version of Madara if he was fully prepared.
Ichigo swings his blade in Naruto’s direction reducing him to blood splatter he has no answer for Ichigo’s raw power.
@ultimatesage: We all knew they would
OT: Naruto one shots with any Bijuu rasenshiruken, nothing any amount of Bleach wank can do about it.
@alextheboss: With how that feat was depicted don't you think it's plausible that the cloak is simply for durability and versatility purposes. Because his stats and jutsu capacity seemed similar cloak activated or not.
This is just a sketchy theory though.
Ichigo. Naruto in base would have absolutely no way of tanking any of ichigo’s hits, and his lava rasenshuriken only worked cuz Madara had been weakened. That trick isn’t going to work here, assuming ichigo can’t tank it by scaling to VL. This is of course assuming this naruto is indeed faster than 8th gates guy.
And it’s quite disappointing seeing the average viner still saying stuff like “city sized seireitei” in 2018(19?)
I gotta ask, are we taking hellverse feats into consideration or nah? If not it's a lot closer, otherwise it's spite.
@ourmanuel: "seireitei is not city size, it is multi-city size"
(My opinion by the way)
I know comicvine has a desperate urge to keep Naruto above Ichigo but thinking this Naruto beats Dangai is just idiotic.
@leothegreatest: Ichigo doesn’t have the durability feats to say he can tank a lava rasenshuricken. If Ichigo lands a direct sword strike he can possibly chop Naruto in half, but Ichigo would also get one shot if he lets Naruto’s attack land.
Crushing LDR in a weaker version and tanking a fraggor that’s massively above LDR comes to mind and Naruto wouldn’t survive Ichigo swinging his sword in his direction a direct attack isn’t even necessary.
Crushing LDR in a weaker version and tanking a fraggor that’s massively above LDR comes to mind
That requires scaling, and even so dangai Ichigo was damaged by the fraggor.
and Naruto wouldn’t survive Ichigo swinging his sword in his direction a direct attack isn’t even necessary.
I disagree, it would have to be a direct swing to put Naruto out of commission, and even then he should have regen abilities, as he can give people their eyes back.
Bleach uses scaling and the fraggor was massively stronger than LDR and was still tanked. And then after that he scoffed at Ultra Fraggor and overpowered it.
I disagree with that. Naruto has no physical Durability feats to suggest he would survive an indirect attack from Ichigo much less a direct attack. Naruto can’t regen from blood splatter so his regen is irrelevant and it’s generous to say blood splatter would even be left more like vapor.
Bleach uses scaling and the fraggor was massively stronger than LDR and was still tanked. And then after that he scoffed at Ultra Fraggor and overpowered it.
That should put him at least around multi mountain, but the lava rasenshuriken is more like mountain range-island level.
I disagree with that. Naruto has no physical Durability feats to suggest he would survive an indirect attack from Ichigo much less a direct attack.
Him smashing Madara should be enough to at least survive the shockwave, not to mention the shockwave from his rasenshuriken was above Ichigo's shockwave and it couldn't even penetrate Madara, who isn't that far above Naruto.
@hope_w: what super continent did naruto damage?
@eobard21: Naruto solos the Bleach verse? It appears that Naruto still is the most wanked anime series on CV.
Even with the heaviest of lowball those feats aren’t below island and this Ichigo also scales to Shikai Kenpachi. And for the rasenshuriken to be on those levels we would have to disregard that it cut the God Tree while the Trees best durability feats came from energy attacks and in Naruto there’s a drastic difference between the two.
Smashing Madara says nothing about his own durability and their durabilities aren’t comparable. And the shockwaves aren’t even comparable either not to mention that was Naruto‘s strongest attack while Ichigo’s was a casual parry.
@theemperor95: what they live on is one big supercontinent and practically all the massive damage from the war was moreso his doing than the juubi/Madara/Obito.....exvept the country busting BB
@death_trumpet: “It appears that Naruto still is the most wanked anime series on CV.”
You need to either get your eyes checked or actually spend some time on CV.
@ultimatesage: @skysanji: Stop wanking naruto he didnt one shot madara. Naruto really doesn't have any impressive durability feats outside of kurama so. Durability goes to ichigo. Speed and everyone knows ichigo wins in strength casually sword swing moutain naruto cant deal with power like that without kurama so ichigo one shots mismatch
@ourmanuel: your narutos durability without kurama is trash and definitely cant deal with ichigos power. He defiantly isnt faster or stronger than the eight gates which could one shot madara while having to evade tsb. Madara tanked his lava rasangan while still recovering
@ultimatesage: @skysanji: Stop wanking naruto he didnt one shot madara. Naruto really doesn't have any impressive durability feats outside of kurama so. Durability goes to ichigo. Speed and everyone knows ichigo wins in strength casually sword swing moutain naruto cant deal with power like that without kurama so ichigo one shots mismatch
He says I'm wanking?
Naruto will vape ichigo, lets do a quick recap on naruto's feats eventhough they are but a few;
1. Naruto by using just one of the bijuu's power (he can use all 9 at the same time) was able to cut the shinjuu in half (and the AOE of the shockwave is even greater), naruto can harness and use all the bijuus chakra at the sametime (albeit without kurama's chakra directly bossting the techniques, but rikudou senjutsu chakra boost is greater than kurama's chakra boost).
Lemme talk about rikudou senjutsu chakra for a bit, Rikudou senjutsu chakra is the most potent chakra in the entire series, kakashi with a tiny bit of rikudou chakra (which is inferior to rikudou senjutsu chakra) was able to hold his own in the big leagues.
2. This ^^ brings me to my second point which is speed, kakashi was able to react and fight the god tiers, that means as far as speed is concerned, naruto is more than fast enough for this fight, naruto also has the feat of reacting to a point blank limbo attack from juudara which proves he is indeed fast.
3. Sensing - RSM grants naruto better sensing than his previous incarnations (and we all know even before rsm naruto had pretty insane sensing abilities), he was able to sense limbo clones which exist on a different plain of existence, and the same sensing made himreact to the limbo.
4. For strength and dura, eventhough he doesn't have much going on here he should be stronger than his weaker incarnations considering he is stronger and has superior chakra quantity and quality.
Once again naruto vapes and with that, i'm done.
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