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Poll Daemon vs Saitama (76 votes)

Saitama kills himself 46%
Saitama still negs diff the kid 54%
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Saitama goes to the mall for a special discount only to find this weird kid slaughtering almost everyone there Saitama thinks he's a Monster in disguise so he's dead serious

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Saitama still wins. It's very unlikely hes going to show murderous intent towards a child or even use serious moves here

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Saitama doesn't kill kids, nor does he have killing intent. He just knocks him out.

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Saitama punches his own head off.

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@daemoncodekillr: Yes because Daemon can now use his ability on people who explicitily wouldnt have killing intent in this battle......

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#5  Edited By Morningstar999

@ob1toe: He is either a bot, or a troll who made an alt. Look, he has a Daemon profile pic lmao, it's even in his name.

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@ob1toe: Whatever intention Saitama has against the kid, the reality of it immediately gets transferred back to Saitama. Saitama wants to knock the kid out? Saitama gets knocked out.

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@daemoncodekillr: knocking someone out isnt murderous intent lol. Your making a nlf argument. Daemon needs Murderous intent for his ability to work, incap is not murderous intent.

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#8  Edited By daemoncodekillR

@morningstar999: @ob1toe:

It doesn't state anywhere in the manga that the power only works on people with killing intent; rather, the stronger the intent, the stronger the reciprocal reaction:

Desire to just break his arm = one's own arm broken.

Just knocking him out = Saitama is knocked out

Ripping Daemon's head off = Saitama's head is suddenly on the floor

Saitama has no answer for this kind of HAX.

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Saitama is kinda the worst opponent for Daemon, he literally has never shown killing intent.

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If saitama thinks he's a monster then yeah daemon blows a hole through his chest

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@daemoncodekillr: you need feats to prove that otherwise its a nlf. All the times we've seen the ability work is when the opponent has had murderous intent

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@manimalman: Why would Saitama kill an opponent that looked like a child? He knocked out overgrown rover because he believed it to be a dog.

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@ob1toe said:

@daemoncodekillr: you need feats to prove that otherwise its a nlf. All the times we've seen the ability work is when the opponent has had murderous intent

No, you need to prove that it only works if the person has killer intent. Power reflection, with damage being reciprocal to the level intent is clearly what Eida was saying. The stronger the intent, the stronger the damage taken.

Saitama knocks himself out. Aida and Daemon go sip some Sake.

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@daemoncodekillr: It wont affect Saitama at all then lmao. I seriously doubt Saitama is going to be knocked out by his weaker punches when his fight with Boros didnt give Saitama any meaningful damage.

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Nothing is mentioned about attacks that dont exhibit killer intent. All the examples Aida gave revolves around Killer intent

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@morningstar999: The wank of this chracter is already reaching aida levels. Somehow hes beating someone who in chracter will not show killer intent.

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Saitama doesn't go around having killing intent towards such types.

If this Kid is actually far beyond Jigen as said earlier then regardless of his ability he'll stomp by himself

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#18  Edited By Nixtollo

Why would Saitama’s own attacks affect himself?

Saitama punches this kid.

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More feats are needed for the kid imo

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#20  Edited By Morningstar999

@nixtollo: It's not simple attack reflection. If someone thinks of tearing Daemon in half, he will be teared half instead. Higher the killing intent, higher the effect. At least, for now that's what we know. It could even have some limits, that's why it's better to wait.

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That’s a cool picture of Saitama.

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#22  Edited By Nixtollo

@morningstar999: That makes more sense, thanks. Also yeah I agree, the kid needs more showings before we can properly judge.

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#23  Edited By ManimalMan

@ob1toe: read the OP, he's "dead serious" and thinks he's a monster. With rover saitama just sees him as a dog that got too big cuz he's not so bright but in this case he sees daemon as a monster.

Saitama's killed plenty of other animal like monsters before.

Him not killing rover was the exception not the norm. He typically goes for the kill against every monster he fights regardless of their appearance or backstory.

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@manimalman: Yes because Saitama when he killed Kabuto had 100% killing intent and totally did not attack him while thinking about something trival. The only Time Saitama has killing intent is when hes annoyed or using serious series. 0 feats from Daemon prove hes strong enough to annoy Saitama or make him use Serious series moves. Just because he thinks someone is a monster doesnt mean he'll act out of character and suddenly take a unproven character seriously. Op expicitily states Saitama is going to the stores looking for discounts, the same outcome as the Kabuto fight is whats going to happen here. In chracter Saitama is going to care more about the discounts then having killer intent

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@ob1toe: the intent to kill thing has nothing to do with being serious, annoyed or angry or anything else. He just needs to intentionally try to kill daemon.

Just because killing carnage kabuto was trivial doesnt mean it wasn't deliberate.

As long as saitama is trying to kill him, it'll be reflected

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Saitama.

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Saitama blitzes and one shots

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Saitama has 0 kill intent whatsoever

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@ob1toe said:

@manimalman: Yes because Saitama when he killed Kabuto had 100% killing intent and totally did not attack him while thinking about something trival. The only Time Saitama has killing intent is when hes annoyed or using serious series. 0 feats from Daemon prove hes strong enough to annoy Saitama or make him use Serious series moves. Just because he thinks someone is a monster doesnt mean he'll act out of character and suddenly take a unproven character seriously. Op expicitily states Saitama is going to the stores looking for discounts, the same outcome as the Kabuto fight is whats going to happen here. In chracter Saitama is going to care more about the discounts then having killer intent

Quoted for truth.

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Yeah, Saitama should win this

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Saitama.

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@delein said:

Saitama has 0 kill intent whatsoever

he oneshots the cyborg

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NLF kid gets oneshotted.

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#35  Edited By killerboi

@ob1toe said:

@daemoncodekillr: knocking someone out isnt murderous intent lol. Your making a nlf argument. Daemon needs Murderous intent for his ability to work, incap is not murderous intent.

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OT: Saitama kills himself if he attacks with murderous intent. If not then Saitama knocks himself unconscious.

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Daemon stomps

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Saitama unintentionally knocked out Garou. He unintentionally slaps the kid to death

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Saitama just K.O’s him as he’s not gonna have killing intent towards a small child.

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Saitama Oneshots.

Daemon NLF won't stand a chance against Saitama's Gag Power. Him being a gag trumps everything Daemon have.

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@hasanitahbir65: saitama isn't anymore of a gag character than any average shounen. He doesn't get exempt from traditional stats or scaling.

One Piece and DragonBall have just as many gag scenes.

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@manimalman: @hasanitahbir65: He is an overpowered character, not a gag character. He is still bound by the rules of reality and physics of his own verse. Gintama is more of a gag anime.

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Daemon's ability is passive and has been shown to reflect ALL attacks -- not just ones with killing intent. Code's teleportation claws were immediately reflected back onto Code without Daemon's realisation.

Saitama punches his own head off.

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Bump..

Not looking to good for Saitama.

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Saitama

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Meh Saitama isn't winning this. Attack reflection GG

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I'm pretty sure saitama can tank his own attacks also can someone show me daemon hax being passive

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Saitama's going to jail for child abuse that's for sure lol.

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#50  Edited By Wot_m8

Saitama literally cannot do anything to Daemon. Whatever he does passively gets reflected. Yes, it’s auto. No, it does not require murder intent to work.

Code blitzed and tried putting a teleportation marker on Daemon and it got reflected on him… despite the fact that Daemon couldn’t even react to him.