Daemon (Boruto) VS Kenpachi (Bleach

  • 65 results
  • 1
  • 2
Avatar image for bleakfuture
BleakFuture

186

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#1  Edited By BleakFuture

Guess I'll be the first one to make this.

Daemon:

No Caption Provided

VS

Kenpachi:

No Caption Provided

Neutral conditions.

Kenpachi starts in Shikai without his eyepatch, can go Bankai at any time.

Who wins?

Avatar image for jieldre
Jieldre

732

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

Smh. So it has started........

Avatar image for decaffeinated
Decaffeinated

9398

Forum Posts

4

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

No Caption Provided

Avatar image for morningstar999
Morningstar999

17760

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#4 Morningstar999  Online

Oh fuck...this will not end well.

Avatar image for wanderez
Wanderez

5839

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#5  Edited By Wanderez

This is attack reflection. Not some kind of reality warping or causality reversal. Kenpachi shouldn't be too bothered by his own attacks. His Bankai is a perfect example what happens when his power exceeds his durability. Otherwise he should be a-okay.

Kenpachi cleavage in action is what happens here. Too bad he's just a little kid, this is straight up child abuse.

Avatar image for deactivated-60d86c5d99ce6
deactivated-60d86c5d99ce6

495

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

@jieldre said:

Smh. So it has started........

Avatar image for raiden-black
Raiden-Black

41

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

Kenpachi: I will let you have the first hit - leaves himself open for attack-

well this got awkward :P

Avatar image for ultimatesage
UltimateSage

1152

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

Kenpachii cleaves himself in half lmao

And already there's misconceptions of Daemon's ability lol

Avatar image for manimalman
ManimalMan

3601

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

@wanderez: its not really attack reflection, he's bringing the opponents intent to kill him into reality and turning it back on them.

The one guy didn't even draw his sword but was still decapitated.

All kenny has to do is think about killing daemon and he'll turn that thought back on him as reality.

Avatar image for wanderez
Wanderez

5839

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#11  Edited By Wanderez

@manimalman:

Yeah, something like that. The way I view it is he kinda passively reads one's mind/intentions and reflects on them whatever they want to do to Daemon. But it is still attack reflection until further notice, it's just mixed with mind reading, he just reflects it before it even happens, because it takes less time for him to register the intentions of someone than for them to do what they intend to do.

Avatar image for macybaljure
MacyBaljure

201

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

Kenpachi can tank his own attacks.

Avatar image for manimalman
ManimalMan

3601

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#13  Edited By ManimalMan

@wanderez: he's bot actually reflecting the attack though, just the outcome. If the intennt is splitting daemon in 2 then that's what outcome kenpachi experiences.

Its not about tanking or durability.

Avatar image for del_torro
del_torro

5134

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

Lmao Daemon solos bleach

Avatar image for firefly894
firefly894

1393

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

Lord help us, another Eida

OT: Stalemate

Avatar image for lilgodperv
Lilgodperv

5656

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

@firefly894: lol we got confirmation now that eida isn't strong at all. It's her hax that is dangerous.

Avatar image for one_of_two
One_of_Two

1177

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

@del_torro said:

Lmao Daemon solos bleach

Aren't there a few characters with good regeneration? The likes of Aizen should be able to easily survive his ability.

Avatar image for gaoron
Gaoron

12321

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

Oh no. I can already smell the NLF arguments Naruto fans are going to be throwing around.

Avatar image for saxz
Saxz

3609

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#19  Edited By Saxz

Daemon wins for now,, I like that Boruto is stepping up their hax game and this seems to be another passive skill.

Daemon's attack is closer to causality manipulation than attack reflection, By hype Kenpachi Loses there's simply nothing he can do.

Then again we shouldn't Just blindly ride the hype train, his ability may have limits and may not even be passive Like Eida which would leave him liable for a Blitz. I think we've learnt to not trust hype entirely as Eida (supposedly greater than Jigen) is just Kawaki level combat Wise.

Avatar image for manimalman
ManimalMan

3601

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

@saxz: we don't know how strong or fast eida is, just that she's not skilled and doesn't have any flashy ninjutsu to fall back on.

Avatar image for saxz
Saxz

3609

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

@manimalman:

We Know Kawaki is a threat to her because her abilities won't work on him, that's why she needs Code or Daemon as her Knights cuz their abilities are more geared towards combat. She straight up admitted inferiority to Code so She's not even at weakened Code level combat Wise much less Jigen, which pretty much confirmed the ongoing suspicions that the "power" surpassing Jigen refers to their special abilities.

She doesn't have any flashy ninjutsu and by her own admission her Taijutsu is basic , i think it's pretty much implied She's not relevantly strong fast or skilled else Kawaki wouldn't remotely be a threat to her.

Avatar image for delein
Delein

7161

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#22 Delein  Online

@gaoron said:

Oh no. I can already smell the NLF arguments Naruto fans are going to be throwing around.

Avatar image for ultimatesage
UltimateSage

1152

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

@saxz said:

@manimalman:

We Know Kawaki is a threat to her because her abilities won't work on him, that's why she needs Code or Daemon as her Knights cuz their abilities are more geared towards combat. She straight up admitted inferiority to Code so She's not even at weakened Code level combat Wise much less Jigen, which pretty much confirmed the ongoing suspicions that the "power" surpassing Jigen refers to their special abilities.

She doesn't have any flashy ninjutsu and by her own admission her Taijutsu is basic , i think it's pretty much implied She's not relevantly strong fast or skilled else Kawaki wouldn't remotely be a threat to her.

That part doesn't make sense tho when we factor in her abilities not being able to effect Jigen in the first place.

But yeah, she's a let down.....and doesn't like pain:/

Avatar image for kalebsmarty156
Kalebsmarty156

4969

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#24  Edited By Kalebsmarty156

Mismatch. Kenpachi gets cleaved in half.

And I was waiting for this matchup ever since the leaks lol.

Avatar image for the_wspanialy
the_wspanialy

5711

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#25 the_wspanialy  Online

It’s a sad day to be a Bleach wanker.

Avatar image for saxz
Saxz

3609

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

@ultimatesage:

Surpassing Jigen may not necessarily mean being physically able to smash him.

With her ability She could turn all of Kara against him and Daemon's the same I don't see him physically beating Jigen either, he would Just lol nope his attacks and make Jigen kill himself.

If she's anywhere near Jigen level Kawaki shouldn't be able to inflict pain.

Avatar image for manimalman
ManimalMan

3601

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

@saxz: she definitely has bigger ambitions since kawaki turning on her was just an after thought. I agree with her being a worse combatant but even with his limiter he's still right up there with naruto and sasuke. You can have better stats than someone and still be a worse fighter.

Kawaki has all the same potential as code and can still be a threat regardless of stats. Take the isshiki fight for example, kawaki, boruto and naruto are all much weaker than isshiki in terms of stats but were able to kill him.

Even if she outstats him, he can still be a threat under the right circumstances.

We just have to wait for one of these cyborgs to get in a real fight to saw anything definitive about their stats in relation to jigen.

Avatar image for saxz
Saxz

3609

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

@saxz: she definitely has bigger ambitions since kawaki turning on her was just an after thought. I agree with her being a worse combatant but even with his limiter he's still right up there with naruto and sasuke. You can have better stats than someone and still be a worse fighter.

Right up there with a weakened Naruto and Sasuke. And we are yet to confirm if Eida indeed has better stats by her own admission it seems very unlikely

Kawaki has all the same potential as code and can still be a threat regardless of stats. Take the isshiki fight for example, kawaki, boruto and naruto are all much weaker than isshiki in terms of stats but were able to kill him.

Baryon Naruto Yes, but the others were barely an inconvenience.

Even if she outstats him, he can still be a threat under the right circumstances.

well those circumstances don't involve her being Jigen level.

We just have to wait for one of these cyborgs to get in a real fight to saw anything definitive about their stats in relation to jigen.

True.

Avatar image for daemoncodekillr
daemoncodekillR

40

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

Daemon solos the HST

Avatar image for aggrape
aggrape

882

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

@delein said:
@gaoron said:

Oh no. I can already smell the NLF arguments Naruto fans are going to be throwing around.

Avatar image for daemoncodekillr
daemoncodekillR

40

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

@aggrape said:
@delein said:
@gaoron said:

Oh no. I can already smell the NLF arguments Naruto fans are going to be throwing around.

Kenpachi cuts himself in half just thinking about hurting Daemon.

Avatar image for haxxxz
Haxxxz

3384

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

This one should go to the kid honestly but I'll wait for future to know better how his abilities work and if those affects them who just throw around attacks

Avatar image for hayabusa77
Hayabusa77

4784

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

What if kenpachi has no intent to kill him, just goes "out of my way" and swings? Or he just wants a fight, whoever dies is just a side effect

Avatar image for powerfulavenger
powerfulavenger

380

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

Kenpachi

Avatar image for shirosenya
Shirosenya

317

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

Daemon

Avatar image for manimalman
ManimalMan

3601

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

@hayabusa77: if kenny isn't trying to kill him he should be fine.

But kenny's pretty kill happy so that shouldn't be an issue.

Avatar image for gdara
gdara

4672

Forum Posts

1110

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 5

Kenny.

Avatar image for hayabusa77
Hayabusa77

4784

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

@manimalman: he is fight happy, not kill happy. There is a difference.

He wants a full all out fight with no holding back. If someone dies that is just the results. He does not want to die so will get more serious on killing someone if needed (kendo strike) but only if pushed there. It is just a fight to him with high stakes and no restraint

Avatar image for ovy7
ovy7

5806

Forum Posts

97

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

Most of the times Kenpachi fights he doesn't go for the kill, especially if he thinks the opponent is strong, as he wants to just have a good fight and maybe a rematch later. I'm trying to think about it, but I don't think he actually killed any relevant character bar Unohana (who he actually didn't even intent to kill, that being just a result of their fight), and Nnoitra (who IIRC survived his Kendo strike but then attack Kenpachi again after the fight was over).

This kids' hax seems to work based on killing intent, you picturing how to kill the kid, which Kenpachi likely won't do.

Avatar image for deactivated-61380ee6a7097
deactivated-61380ee6a7097

1792

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

@hayabusa77 said:

What if kenpachi has no intent to kill him, just goes "out of my way" and swings? Or he just wants a fight, whoever dies is just a side effect

The effect that he thinks will get reflected on to him.

like if he thinks he will injure Daemon he will get injured in return.

Avatar image for del_torro
del_torro

5134

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

Avatar image for basarayuuto
BasaraYuuto

105

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#42  Edited By BasaraYuuto

Daemon FTW.

Kenpachi thinks to open Daemon's head in half and Kenny's head gets insta-splitted in two.

Can Kenny survive getting sliced in half, into pieces, beheaded etc.?

Also Daemon's hax gets stronger if the killing intent is higher. So if Kenny goes Bankai he gets insta-busted.

Avatar image for blackice709
Blackice709

1906

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

daemon no diffs

Avatar image for manimalman
ManimalMan

3601

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

@manimalman: he is fight happy, not kill happy. There is a difference.

He wants a full all out fight with no holding back. If someone dies that is just the results. He does not want to die so will get more serious on killing someone if needed (kendo strike) but only if pushed there. It is just a fight to him with high stakes and no restraint

He's very much into both fighting and killing.

No Caption Provided

He was trying to kill nnoitora for the whole fight, he just resorted to kendo once he was in danger.

No Caption Provided
No Caption Provided

He's pretty much always swinging to kill and if his opponent blocks,dodges or survives somehow then he's impressed. Just because he isnt going all out doesn't mean he's not going for the kill. Anyway he thinks might be weak he just oneshots and moves on, he only tries to savor the fight the opponent seems strong interesting.

No Caption Provided
No Caption Provided
No Caption Provided
No Caption Provided
No Caption Provided
No Caption Provided

Avatar image for scp-939
SCP-939

1028

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

If your intent is to harm Daemon, the attack happens to you instantly

Somebody was about to reach for their sword and their head came clean off right then

Doesn’t matter the context, if you’re about to attack him you get hit with your own attack, no matter how powerful the attack

So unless Kenpachi can tank or survive anything he can’t even make a move on him

Avatar image for deactivated-60f8a948a0372
deactivated-60f8a948a0372

4800

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

Daemon.

Avatar image for jwillis12
jwillis12

168

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#47 jwillis12  Online

I am not too familiar with Daemon, are there any other panels regarding this ability? Based on the OP’s panel, it seems there has to be an intent to kill, involving a mental image/picturing Daemon’s death. If Daemon gets in a good attack and Kenpachi (being his normal self, standing there bored, doubting the kid’s power) reacts on instinct/years of training and strikes back before formulating an actual intent to kill, wouldn’t Daemon’s skill be useless?

Avatar image for wanderez
Wanderez

5839

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#48  Edited By Wanderez

So, after re-reading the chapter a few things have become more clear.

First, this is not causality manipulation since there is no cause or effect in the first place. It is not attack reflection either tbh, I'd rather argue it's limited matter manipulation.

The effects either aren't passive or take time to activate. Code was ready to attack Daemon for two panels straight and nothing happened to him. The poor dude who got beheaded managed to unsheathe half of his sword before he got killed.

We still need more of this ability to determine what it is exactly, but as of now my stance is still the same - this is child abuse.

Avatar image for uchihaghost
uchihaghost

3647

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#49  Edited By uchihaghost

Based on how his ability works, i don't see any reason why it wont work on kenny, we'll just have to wait and see the limitations.

Avatar image for daemoncodekillr
daemoncodekillR

40

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

Kenny cuts himself in half