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#1  Edited By CapitolPunishment

While Doctor Strange and Nova are trapped inside the crimson cosmos Doctor Strange attempts to teleport Juggernaut to aid him against Cyttorak. At this time Juggernaut is engaging WWH in a fierce battle on Earth, the good doctor instead teleports WWH to the Crimson Cosmos where he must face off with the big Asian guy with the funny hat.

Can WWH beat Cyttorak into a coma in a sinilar fashion the way Juggernaut laid him out and get them all to safety? Or will he get defeated at the hands of this, Magical Abstract, God-like Extra dimensional deity who uses his “creation aspect” to make little elf men to worship him, minor organized crime boss that has his mighty avatar steel jewelry to spread his “Destructive aspect” .

Battle takes place in the crimson cosmos, fight to the death or comatose.

 
 
 
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Who wins and why?
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#2  Edited By Boobster
@CapitolPunishment: Man, you're insane, I don't like Cyttorak and all but Juggernaut beating has nothing to do with beating, he just depowered himself and gem returned back to Cy's head.
As for the battle, Hulk broke Crimson Bands on 2 occasions, both were casted by Doctor Strange on him. 
But, for some reason, I just can't say that Hulk wins. Well, I can, but something says me it is wrong.
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#3  Edited By CapitolPunishment
@Boobster said:
@CapitolPunishment: Man, you're insane, I don't like Cyttorak and all but Juggernaut beating has nothing to do with beating, he just depowered himself and gem returned back to Cy's head. As for the battle, Hulk broke Crimson Bands on 2 occasions, both were casted by Doctor Strange on him.  But, for some reason, I just can't say that Hulk wins. Well, I can, but something says me it is wrong.

Well it can also be said that Cyttorak was in control of that whole battle for the one reason that he knew that the Juggernauts greed would force him to return the gem to his forhead once he was depowered so he took the battle lightly. would the Hulk even care given that his power comes from a different Extra dimensinal source?
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#4  Edited By Boobster
@CapitolPunishment: I don't know, Hulk's strength is incredible, not even Cyttorak's "unbreakable" bands could contain him.
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#5  Edited By tron_bonne

ROFL 

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#6  Edited By jaywray

This is.... this is just to much spite, seriously.

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#7  Edited By Boobster

Laugh as much as you want, but Hulk smashes PUNY BANDS !

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#8  Edited By AssertingValor

Cyttorak............
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#9  Edited By tron_bonne
@Boobster said:

@CapitolPunishment: Man, you're insane, I don't like Cyttorak 

That's why all you opinions about him are spiteful. 
 
 
 
  @Boobster said:

@CapitolPunishment: I don't know, Hulk's strength is incredible, not even Cyttorak's "unbreakable" bands could contain him.


The band are only as powerful as the will of who summoned it. The focusing effort of the one whom summoned it. Hulk broke out of Dr. Strange's bands because he distracted him. 
 
 
 
 
  
 
@CapitolPunishment
Cyttorak could will itself to be as weak as a crippled old man, or as powerful as TOAA inside his parallel universe (or as powerful as the Beyonder outside of his parallel universe)
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#10  Edited By Boobster
@tron_bonne said:
@Boobster said:
@CapitolPunishment: Man, you're insane, I don't like Cyttorak 
That's why all you opinions about him are spiteful. 
 
 
 
 @Boobster said:
@CapitolPunishment: I don't know, Hulk's strength is incredible, not even Cyttorak's "unbreakable" bands could contain him.

The band are only as powerful as the will of who summoned it. The the focusing effort of the one whom summoned it. Hulk broke out of Dr. Strange's bands because he distracted him. 
 
 
 
 
  
 
@CapitolPunishment: Cyttorak could will itself to be as weak as a crippled old man, or as powerful as TOAA inside his parallel universe (or as powerful as the Beyonder outside of his parallel universe)
Yeah, I just defended Cyttorak from the "being beaten by own avatar" arguement. Truly, I'm a spiteful one.
Look at the scans. First and second. Where the hell Hulk distracts Strange there ?
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#11  Edited By jaywray
@Boobster:  
The hulk comics are the #1 comics on the planet for PIS+CIS+ .... S. 
The bands are only as powerful as the wielder and the minute amount of power the avatar decides to give during that spell. You think Cryttorak gives a damn when strange is in danger to come down himself and restrain Hulk?  
lol..... 
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#12  Edited By Boobster
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@Boobster:  The hulk comics are the #1 comics on the planet for PIS+CIS+ .... S. The bands are only as powerful as the wielder and the minute amount of power the avatar decides to give during that spell. You think Cryttorak gives a damn when strange is in danger to come down himself and restrain Hulk?  lol..... 
Simple, Hulk smashed them more than once. You can call that PIS, but it's happened. I see no PIS there, for the Hulk's might is truly incredible.
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@tron_bonne said:
@Boobster said:

@CapitolPunishment: Man, you're insane, I don't like Cyttorak 

That's why all you opinions about him are spiteful. 
 
 
 
  @Boobster said:

@CapitolPunishment: I don't know, Hulk's strength is incredible, not even Cyttorak's "unbreakable" bands could contain him.


The band are only as powerful as the will of who summoned it. The focusing effort of the one whom summoned it. Hulk broke out of Dr. Strange's bands because he distracted him. 
 
 
 
 
  
 
@CapitolPunishment: Cyttorak could will itself to be as weak as a crippled old man, or as powerful as TOAA inside his parallel universe (or as powerful as the Beyonder outside of his parallel universe)

Yes, it may be possible could be TOAA in his crimson cosmos but only to what he creates or empowers within the Crimson cosmos. If someone/something entered the Crimson cosmos that has a self sustained power, drew power from else ware or could absorb Cyttorak’s energy it would be a contest of who has more power at their disposal. It was never stated how much energy Cyttorak was in command of, how big the crimson cosmos was or how much magical energy it contained. Let’s not forget that he was BANISHED to the crimson cosmos, he did not create it and that he cannot leave if he wanted to do so. That is why he created an avatar.  
 

 
 

To say he has the Beyonder’s power outside the Crimson Cosmos is just a Lie, I do not wish to call you a liar so I’ll just say it’s pure speculation at the very best. If you can provide proof that he has Beyonder level power outside the CC I will retract what I just said.

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#14  Edited By jaywray
@Boobster: Breaking something that is meant to be "unbreakable" by all normal standards. Then having anyone other than beings of supreme power (ie : living tribunal, and other cosmic/supreme beings) 
Is PIS to give hulk a feat. 
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#15  Edited By the darknessss
@Boobster said:


                    @jaywray said:

@Boobster:  The hulk comics are the #1 comics on the planet for PIS+CIS+ .... S. The bands are only as powerful as the wielder and the minute amount of power the avatar decides to give during that spell. You think Cryttorak gives a damn when strange is in danger to come down himself and restrain Hulk?  lol..... 

                   

               
Simple, Hulk smashed them more than once. You can call that PIS, but it's happened. I see no PIS there, for the Hulk's might is truly incredible.

                   

               

i agree,weather we as readers like it or not in happened in the marvel universe,so on those grounds alone this match up carries a good debate and we should respect the history of an event P.I.S or not.
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@the darknessss said:
@Boobster said:


                    @jaywray said:

@Boobster:  The hulk comics are the #1 comics on the planet for PIS+CIS+ .... S. The bands are only as powerful as the wielder and the minute amount of power the avatar decides to give during that spell. You think Cryttorak gives a damn when strange is in danger to come down himself and restrain Hulk?  lol..... 

                   

               
Simple, Hulk smashed them more than once. You can call that PIS, but it's happened. I see no PIS there, for the Hulk's might is truly incredible.

                   

               
i agree,weather we as readers like it or not in happened in the marvel universe,so on those grounds alone this match up carries a good debate and we should respect the history of an event P.I.S or not.

I agree as well. To many people say Hulk's feats are PIS/WIS/CIS but thay happen over and over again so we can't simply dismiss them as such. It was also shown somewhat recently that the Hulk gets his power from another dimension power source that has yet to be revealed. 
 

 
 
 
 
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Gods are only all powerful within their own realm until another omnipotent comes in there and starts tearing **** up. If the invader happens to be of a higher tier, well the omnipotent is no longer omnipotent. Case in point - what Galactus did to Mephisto's realm.

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@Prince CortSether said:
Gods are only all powerful within their own realm until another omnipotent comes in there and starts tearing **** up. If the invader happens to be of a higher tier, well the omnipotent is no longer omnipotent. Case in point - what Galactus did to Mephisto's realm.

Like a teenage being Omnipotent in his room until his father kicks in his door and hands him an a$$ wooppin.
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@CapitolPunishment said:
@Prince CortSether said:
Gods are only all powerful within their own realm until another omnipotent comes in there and starts tearing **** up. If the invader happens to be of a higher tier, well the omnipotent is no longer omnipotent. Case in point - what Galactus did to Mephisto's realm.
Like a teenage being Omnipotent in his room until his father kicks in his door and hands him an a$$ wooppin.
lol exactly.
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#20  Edited By jaywray
@the darknessss: No where did I say it didn't happen, just stating that while, it happened, it doesn't make it any less stupid.
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#21  Edited By the darknessss
@jaywray
its you said hulk is full of P.I.S,maybe/maybe not,but if marvel write in a story unbreakable and someone/thing can break it then thats what happen,like hulk doing or not it matters not,otherwise we might as well just take the bits of stories we like and dismiss the rest because we dont like it.
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#22  Edited By jaywray
@the darknessss: It is full of P.I.S, lets say for 50 comics hulk shows a certain amount of feats, then in these 2/3 comics all of a sudden he is able to do so more... Much more, but after those he goes back to the 50 comic feats as usual.  
the 2/3 comics, are P.I.S. this is the hulk series in a nut shell.
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#23  Edited By tron_bonne
@Boobster: That whole setting was a trail. And the point was anyone who can out will Dr. Strange or distract him from his spell can break out of the Bands however, no one can break out of the bands if Cyttorak binds them. 
 
 
 
@jaywray: If Dormammu, Doom, cast Bands on Hulk he can still get out of it by chance,but if the source binds him, he would have no chance,
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#24  Edited By joshmightbe

Ok just so I'm not accused of being a hater I want it clear that I am a hulk fan I have been for 25 years that being said I feel I can say with all due respect that Cyttorak would beyond any shadow of a doubt obliterate any version of the hulk ever, Cyttorak would be a fair fight for Galactus. Hulk has no place fighting this guy in any sane world 

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#25  Edited By tron_bonne
@Prince CortSether@CapitolPunishment: The comedy is killing me.
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#26  Edited By tron_bonne

Hulk could punch out Galactus with his PIS powers.

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@tron_bonne said:
Hulk could punch out Galactus with his PIS powers.
Rulk with Loeb force could do it. 
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#28  Edited By jaywray
@tron_bonne: Im way on your side here :p 
look at my earlier post I said its a minute proportion of the avatars actual power, and Cyttorak couldn't care less about Stranges or really... anyone else's little troubles to come down and do it himself.
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#29  Edited By nefarious

Major Spite.

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#30  Edited By tron_bonne
@jaywray: I see, but There is no PIS that could beat Cyttorak because the writers story would have to pass through the Editor in Chief 1st and the Editor in Chief HAS TO FOLLOW THE GOLDEN RULE that "Cyttorak is the Ultimate source of Unlimited Power". If the Editor in Chief wants to keep his job that is.
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@Prince CortSether said:
@tron_bonne said:
Hulk could punch out Galactus with his PIS powers.
Rulk with Loeb force could do it. 

Rulk with Loeb Force tried... it didn't work.
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@Dormammu said:
@Prince CortSether said:
@tron_bonne said:
Hulk could punch out Galactus with his PIS powers.
Rulk with Loeb force could do it. 
Rulk with Loeb Force tried... it didn't work.
When?
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#33  Edited By jaywray
@tron_bonne: givin some of the stuff thats gotten through in the past... I dread the day. 
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@Prince CortSether said:
@Dormammu said:
@Prince CortSether said:
@tron_bonne said:
Hulk could punch out Galactus with his PIS powers.
Rulk with Loeb force could do it. 
Rulk with Loeb Force tried... it didn't work.
When?

Hulk #11 or 12 right after killed Terrax, Silver Surfer, Dr. Strange, Baron Mordo, and the Grandmaster.
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#35  Edited By tron_bonne

Loebforce RULK was having some problems with MODOK

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Hmm, so who's winning?
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@jaywray said:
This is.... this is just to much spite, seriously.

This >_________________<
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#38  Edited By Boobster
@tron_bonne said:

@Boobster: That whole setting was a trail. And the point was anyone who can out will Dr. Strange or distract him from his spell can break out of the Bands however, no one can break out of the bands if Cyttorak binds them. 
 
 
 
@jaywray: If Dormammu, Doom, cast Bands on Hulk he can still get out of it by chance,but if the source binds him, he would have no chance,

So how the hell Juggernaut wasn't affected by Cyttorak's bands ?
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@Boobster said:
@tron_bonne said:

@Boobster: That whole setting was a trail. And the point was anyone who can out will Dr. Strange or distract him from his spell can break out of the Bands however, no one can break out of the bands if Cyttorak binds them. 
 
 
 
@jaywray: If Dormammu, Doom, cast Bands on Hulk he can still get out of it by chance,but if the source binds him, he would have no chance,

So how the hell Juggernaut wasn't affected by Cyttorak's bands ?
From what was shown the crimson bands work like a GL ring, will power, correct? If so what level of will power would Cyttorak have while being pounded upon?
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#40  Edited By Boobster
@CapitolPunishment said:
@Boobster said:
@tron_bonne said:

@Boobster: That whole setting was a trail. And the point was anyone who can out will Dr. Strange or distract him from his spell can break out of the Bands however, no one can break out of the bands if Cyttorak binds them. 
 
 
 
@jaywray: If Dormammu, Doom, cast Bands on Hulk he can still get out of it by chance,but if the source binds him, he would have no chance,

So how the hell Juggernaut wasn't affected by Cyttorak's bands ?
From what was shown the crimson bands work like a GL ring, will power, correct? If so what level of will power would Cyttorak have while being pounded upon?
I think it's more about concentration than willpower.
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@boobster:   Ahh, yes that is correct. But again Cyttorak has not been shown to have  infallible concentration.
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#42  Edited By Boobster
@CapitolPunishment said:
@boobster:   Ahh, yes that is correct. But again Cyttorak has not been shown to have  infallible concentration.
Hulk will taunt Cyttorak by showing his muscles :D
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@CapitolPunishment said:

While Doctor Strange and Nova are trapped inside the crimson cosmos Doctor Strange attempts to teleport Juggernaut to aid him against Cyttorak. At this time Juggernaut is engaging WWH in a fierce battle on Earth, the good doctor instead teleports WWH to the Crimson Cosmos where he must face off with the big Asian guy with the funny hat.

Can WWH beat Cyttorak into a coma in a sinilar fashion the way Juggernaut laid him out and get them all to safety? Or will he get defeated at the hands of this, Magical Abstract, God-like Extra dimensional deity who uses his “creation aspect” to make little elf men to worship him, minor organized crime boss that has his mighty avatar steel jewelry to spread his “Destructive aspect” .

Battle takes place in the crimson cosmos, fight to the death or comatose.

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i am assuming you made this battle to make 
lance/kenisheroo tick ?
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@Boobster said:
@CapitolPunishment said:
@boobster:   Ahh, yes that is correct. But again Cyttorak has not been shown to have  infallible concentration.
Hulk will taunt Cyttorak by showing his muscles :D
lol best comment ever
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@Boobster:  Possibly, I do not think Cyttorak's concentration is all that great anyhow.  Do you remember when he tried to mind-rape Cain and in turn Cain ended up mind-raping Cyttorak?  Epic concentration for someone that is supposed to be above Galactus right there.
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#47  Edited By monarch2016
@Boobster said:
@CapitolPunishment: I don't know, Hulk's strength is incredible, not even Cyttorak's "unbreakable" bands could contain him.
hulk is not that great,he is barely on planetery level on physical strength
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#49  Edited By thepiddler

Can't see any way in which hulk would come out of this encounter victorious. Cyttorak is an entity that is able to at the very least power trion juggernaut, a being that was able to punch through dimensions, time and space. Not only this but trion juggernaut was also increasing in power with every punch, power that was being drawn upon from the entity described by marvel as having 'limitless' power on more than one occasion cyttorak.

Cyttorak wins this everytime.

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#50  Edited By jeanroygrant

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ROFL