I don't see Bucky being able to do anything against a full powered Optic Blast. Even with Cap's shield(he does have Cap's shield now. Like the actual shield and not a replica) it can only absorb and area as big as the shield. How does Bucky defend the rest of his body from a beam powerful enough to rip through mountains?
I don't see Bucky being able to do anything against a full powered Optic Blast. Even with Cap's shield(he does have Cap's shield now. Like the actual shield and not a replica) it can only absorb and area as big as the shield. How does Bucky defend the rest of his body from a beam powerful enough to rip through mountains?"
1.Cyclops is not going to give him a full blast and even if he did the Shield can block it.
2.Bucky isn't going to just stand there and block either...he could take Scott out just as quick as you think Scott can take him out.
3.His most powerful beams...Scott rarely uses..I doubt he is going to go that far on Bucky.
Cyclops. Bucky can't cope with fully powered optic beams that cover wide areas. Bucky could dodge regular-sized beams. But, if he tries to jump over one, Cyclops could always blast while he's in mid-air. Cyclops will just keep Bucky at bay the entire fight.
"Cyclops. Bucky can't cope with fully powered optic beams that cover wide areas. Bucky could dodge regular-sized beams. But, if he tries to jump over one, Cyclops could always blast while he's in mid-air. Cyclops will just keep Bucky at bay the entire fight."
What makes everybody thing that Cyclops is going to go all out and shoot his strongest beam at a regular human.He wouldn't even got that far on Wolverine even knowing he can take that type of attack.
Also...Bucky has long range attacks..he's not helpless against Cyclops.
"3.His most powerful beams...Scott rarely uses..I doubt he is going to go that far on Bucky."
Bucky kills right? So does Cyclops."
Bucky was trained to kill..but no he doesn't kill.He hasn't kill anyone since being Cap and Cyclops doesn't kill either.He may have killed someone before but he doesn't just do it for the f#ck of it..he does it if he needs to.
"Cyclops. Bucky can't cope with fully powered optic beams that cover wide areas. Bucky could dodge regular-sized beams. But, if he tries to jump over one, Cyclops could always blast while he's in mid-air. Cyclops will just keep Bucky at bay the entire fight."
What makes everybody thing that Cyclops is going to go all out and shoot his strongest beam at a regular human.He wouldn't even got that far on Wolverine even knowing he can take that type of attack.
Also...Bucky has long range attacks..he's not helpless against Cyclops.
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Cyclops has a dark look out of the world. I could see him doing it now, maybe not in the past.
"Cyclops. Bucky can't cope with fully powered optic beams that cover wide areas. Bucky could dodge regular-sized beams. But, if he tries to jump over one, Cyclops could always blast while he's in mid-air. Cyclops will just keep Bucky at bay the entire fight."
What makes everybody thing that Cyclops is going to go all out and shoot his strongest beam at a regular human.He wouldn't even got that far on Wolverine even knowing he can take that type of attack.
Also...Bucky has long range attacks..he's not helpless against Cyclops.
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Cyclops has a dark look out of the world. I could see him doing it now, maybe not in the past."
So Cyclops fighting a regular human will let off his strongest attack for no reason....but there has been people he was pissed at who could actually take the blast and he didn't?
"What makes everybody thing that Cyclops is going to go all out and shoot his strongest beam at a regular human.He wouldn't even got that far on Wolverine even knowing he can take that type of attack.
Cyclops kills now. So, he will go all out.
Vance Astro said:
"Bucky was trained to kill..but no he doesn't kill.He hasn't kill anyone since being Cap and Cyclops doesn't kill either.He may have killed someone before but he doesn't just do it for the f#ck of it..he does it if he needs to."
Cyclops has the will to kill his enemies now. He's adopted it since Messiah Complex.
"What makes everybody thing that Cyclops is going to go all out and shoot his strongest beam at a regular human.He wouldn't even got that far on Wolverine even knowing he can take that type of attack.
Cyclops kills now. So, he will go all out.
Vance Astro said:
"Bucky was trained to kill..but no he doesn't kill.He hasn't kill anyone since being Cap and Cyclops doesn't kill either.He may have killed someone before but he doesn't just do it for the f#ck of it..he does it if he needs to."
Cyclops has the will to kill his enemies now. He's adopted it since Messiah Complex.
"Since Messiah Complex? Who has he killed lately?"
I didn't say he killed anyone. I said that he will. He was telling everyone on the team not to hold back, and if you have to kill, do it. He even said the same thing for the young X-Men.
"Since Messiah Complex? Who has he killed lately?"
I didn't say he killed anyone. I said that he will. He was telling everyone on the team not to hold back, and if you have to kill, do it. He even said the same thing for the young X-Men. "
So if he hasn't killed anyone what makes you think he will kill Bucky.Just because he has less tolerance doesn't mean at the start of the fight he's just going to blow him away.The Punisher kills people every day but he doesn't just headshot people at the start of a fight if he knows he can beat them.He gives them a chance to run then he shoots them in the back.He fought Cap with a machine gun...and instead of just letting off rounds he still tried to put his hands up before he took advantage.So every killer doesn't go for their best move at the start and since Cyclops hasn't killed anyone he should be less likely than Castle to kill someone right off.
The fight can go either way if you ask me because they're both skilled in hand-to-hand combat & both dont kill unless they have to but i say Cap because he has more combat experience because he did help Steve Rogers in WWII if I remember corectly plus he was the Winter Soldier a highly trained assassin or mercernary or w/e. Plus doesnt he still have that bionic or cybernetic arm or w/e so that could be a factor in this fight. But then on the other hand were talking about Cyclops the man who's the Headmaster of The Xavier Institute an extremely good tactian & stragetist & he's led like every X-Team dang near so it's not no like he's new to this sorta thing & then there's his optic blasts. Yeah he has the ability to fire off an extremely powerful wide range blast but I think he only does that when he's out to kill or he's cornered or as a last resort. Plus i've never seen Cyclops use a weapon except the Muramasa Blade but as for firearms I've never seen him or heard of him picking up one but that doesnt mean he doesnt know how to. So it's too hard to pick a winner in this fight if you ask me
"So if he hasn't killed anyone what makes you think he will kill Bucky.Just because he has less tolerance doesn't mean at the start of the fight he's just going to blow him away.The Punisher kills people every day but he doesn't just headshot people at the start of a fight if he knows he can beat them.He gives them a chance to run then he shoots them in the back.He fought Cap with a machine gun...and instead of just letting off rounds he still tried to put his hands up before he took advantage.So every killer doesn't go for their best move at the start and since Cyclops hasn't killed anyone he should be less likely than Castle to kill someone right off."
Fine. But, I still think he would keep Bucky at bay with his blasts.
"So if he hasn't killed anyone what makes you think he will kill Bucky.Just because he has less tolerance doesn't mean at the start of the fight he's just going to blow him away.The Punisher kills people every day but he doesn't just headshot people at the start of a fight if he knows he can beat them.He gives them a chance to run then he shoots them in the back.He fought Cap with a machine gun...and instead of just letting off rounds he still tried to put his hands up before he took advantage.So every killer doesn't go for their best move at the start and since Cyclops hasn't killed anyone he should be less likely than Castle to kill someone right off."
Fine. But, I still think he would keep Bucky at bay with his blasts."
Bucky can just as headshot him or hit him with his shield.
I don't see Bucky being able to do anything against a full powered Optic Blast. Even with Cap's shield(he does have Cap's shield now. Like the actual shield and not a replica) it can only absorb and area as big as the shield. How does Bucky defend the rest of his body from a beam powerful enough to rip through mountains?"
1.Cyclops is not going to give him a full blast and even if he did the Shield can block it.
2.Bucky isn't going to just stand there and block either...he could take Scott out just as quick as you think Scott can take him out.
3.His most powerful beams...Scott rarely uses..I doubt he is going to go that far on Bucky.
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1. Why not? Not, it can't. The shield isn't big enough to protect his entire body. 2. He better. Cyclops'll gun him down otherwise. 3. Why not?
I don't see Bucky being able to do anything against a full powered Optic Blast. Even with Cap's shield(he does have Cap's shield now. Like the actual shield and not a replica) it can only absorb and area as big as the shield. How does Bucky defend the rest of his body from a beam powerful enough to rip through mountains?"
I don't see Bucky being able to do anything against a full powered Optic Blast. Even with Cap's shield(he does have Cap's shield now. Like the actual shield and not a replica) it can only absorb and area as big as the shield. How does Bucky defend the rest of his body from a beam powerful enough to rip through mountains?"
1.Cyclops is not going to give him a full blast and even if he did the Shield can block it.
2.Bucky isn't going to just stand there and block either...he could take Scott out just as quick as you think Scott can take him out.
3.His most powerful beams...Scott rarely uses..I doubt he is going to go that far on Bucky.
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1. Why not? Not, it can't. The shield isn't big enough to protect his entire body. 2. He better. Cyclops'll gun him down otherwise. 3. Why not?"
1.The shield doesn't have to be able to protect his whole body..he can duck behind it.
"1.Cyclops is not going to give him a full blast and even if he did the Shield can block it.
2.Bucky isn't going to just stand there and block either...he could take Scott out just as quick as you think Scott can take him out.
3.His most powerful beams...Scott rarely uses..I doubt he is going to go that far on Bucky.
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1. Why not? Not, it can't. The shield isn't big enough to protect his entire body. 2. He better. Cyclops'll gun him down otherwise. 3. Why not?"
1.The shield doesn't have to be able to protect his whole body..he can duck behind it.
2.That depends...
3.I explained already..
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1. Which will send him flying. The further he gets away from Cyke, the worse off he is. 3. You just said he wouldn't do it. Your arguement is that Bucky wins because Cyclops is going easy? Seems a little unfair that Bucky gets to go all out but Cyclops has to play nice.
"1.Cyclops is not going to give him a full blast and even if he did the Shield can block it.
2.Bucky isn't going to just stand there and block either...he could take Scott out just as quick as you think Scott can take him out.
3.His most powerful beams...Scott rarely uses..I doubt he is going to go that far on Bucky.
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1. Why not? Not, it can't. The shield isn't big enough to protect his entire body. 2. He better. Cyclops'll gun him down otherwise. 3. Why not?"
1.The shield doesn't have to be able to protect his whole body..he can duck behind it.
2.That depends...
3.I explained already..
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1. Which will send him flying. The further he gets away from Cyke, the worse off he is. 3. You just said he wouldn't do it. Your arguement is that Bucky wins because Cyclops is going easy? Seems a little unfair that Bucky gets to go all out but Cyclops has to play nice."
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