CW/MCU: Vigilantes vs. Assassins vs. Soldiers vs. Wakandans

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Vigilantes: Green Arrow, Arsenal (Mirakuru), Daredevil, and the Punisher

Assassins: Ra’s Al Ghoul, Malcolm Merlyn, Ronin, and Black Widow

Soldiers: Captain America, Winter Soldier, Falcon (No Drone/Explosives), Deathstroke (No mirakuru)

Wakandans: T’Challa (Herb), Killmonger (Herb), M’Baku, and Okoye

R1- Street clothes, H2H

R2- **Standard suits**, everyone gets their choice of a sword, billy clubs, or a baseball bat (They’ll use whatever they’d be best with in your mind, all of it is vibranium)

R3- **Standard gear**

Rules: In character, perfect teamwork, full knowledge, fight to KO, incap, or death, fight takes place at the Civil War Airport

**Black Panther and Killmonger will not have their standard suits, their suits are as durable as Oliver’s, they still have Vibranium claws**

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Probably the soldiers all rounds tbh.

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lol...Soldiers stomp.

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R1: Soldiers

R2: Wakandans

R3: Soldiers

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Soldier R1 & 2 either Patnther Can solo R3

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Wakandans, Okoye MVP

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The soldiers win R1. The assassins take R2 and R3.

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@kolkent: These 4 are all world class by definition.

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@anthp2000: Like the mercs that Nat fought, who were hand picked to fight the Avengers?

Or even more world class than that?

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@kolkent: Obviously more... assassins > mercs by definition too.

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@anthp2000:

From Google -

Assassin: a murderer of an important person in a surprise attack for political or religious reasons.

Mercenary: a professional soldier hired to serve in a foreign army.

I don't think that one necessarily is superior to the other in combat... If anything, a mercenary would be better on average because they are specifically listed as soldiers whereas assassination can happen via poison, trickery, etc.

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@kolkent:

I wasn't necessarily talking about combat. Typically, I think assassins are individuals with higher class training. That's why an assassin as a term is most usually tied to some government. Meanwhile, a mercenary can be a random soldier gone rogue who just wants to get paid.

Of course you never know.

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@anthp2000: Yeah you never know - that's why I think mercs are better

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Soldiers Round 1, Wakandans other 2 Rounds.

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As usual I'll be the only one to actually make an argument while the people who lie about feats every season debate each other.

R1- Street clothes, H2H

Oliver and Roy Solo. Assassins are their only threats here. Punisher and Daredevil are weak links for Harper and Queen. Harper couldnt beat malcolms protege Athena and was killed by League assassins under her command So he's still not skilled enough to beat Malcolm with or without mirakuru. which would leave Oliver fighting 2 Ras Al Ghuls. Which he's skilled enough to do.

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Malcolm Dents a steel pillar with a single kick
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Malcolm vs Steel
Malcolm vs Steel
Malcolm tanks a throw from vixen
Malcolm tanks a throw from vixen
Tanks blasts from the waverider....twice
Tanks blasts from the waverider....twice

People keep putting Buck and Steve on the same level in stats and h2h

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bucky struggles with shield agents with none of the super human stats of human cw fighters
bucky struggles with shield agents with none of the super human stats of human cw fighters

Easily defeats season 1 arrow in h2h
Easily defeats season 1 arrow in h2h

Catches arrows and throws them with enough force to kill In sara and diggles case through metal and body armor
Catches arrows and throws them with enough force to kill In sara and diggles case through metal and body armor

Ras breaking thick chains with a sword
Ras breaking thick chains with a sword

catching a knife throw from thea
catching a knife throw from thea

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Embarrassing season 3 Oliver Queen who would beat everyone on this list solo
Embarrassing season 3 Oliver Queen who would beat everyone on this list solo

League Ninjas were taught pressure point attacks (this is not a choke he's using pressure point attacks while pretending to choke oliver to death)
League Ninjas were taught pressure point attacks (this is not a choke he's using pressure point attacks while pretending to choke oliver to death)
which is taught to oliver by ras's daughter Talia
which is taught to oliver by ras's daughter Talia

And that is why Ras and Malcolm can beat any of the super soldiers

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R2- **Standard suits**, everyone gets their choice of a sword, billy clubs, or a baseball bat (They’ll use whatever they’d be best with in your mind, all of it is vibranium)

Assassins Win Barely

Mainly do to Ras

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R3- **Standard gear**

Rules: In character, perfect teamwork, full knowledge, fight to KO, incap, or death, fight takes place at the Civil War Airport

**Black Panther and Killmonger will not have their standard suits, their suits are as durable as Oliver’s, they still have Vibranium claws**

Vigantes win

R3- **Standard gear**

Rules: In character, perfect teamwork, full knowledge, fight to KO, incap, or death, fight takes place at the Civil War Airport

**Black Panther and Killmonger will not have their standard suits, their suits are as durable as Oliver’s, they still have Vibranium claws**

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The Wakandans could actually sweep, T'Challa and Erik are beasts, and Okoye has a major advantage with her spear.

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I'll be back.

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@zezima said:

The Wakandans could actually sweep, T'Challa and Erik are beasts, and Okoye has a major advantage with her spear.

I swear people are just garbage at debating

Tchalla and Erk are beasts are not arguments. okoye has an advantage how.....because no one here has fought someone with a spear before? Because okoye getting fodderized by super soldiers makes her a threat?

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Soldiers or Wakandens sweep