Supergirl
Rules
- Standard gear
- In character
- Win by death/KO
- No prep/prior info
- Fight on an indestructible Earth, start 1 mile apart
- Put whatever order you want for the gauntlet
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Honestly, she can lose quite easily round 1 tbh. Erik's capabilities for hax and pure power are pretty damn impressive, even if he's not as good as he once was before he was depowered by House of M.
The order is a bit funny, but frankly, that's to be expected on CV so I don't really get annoyed by it anymore tbh. All I'll say is that Wanda isn't good enough to be 3 in character.
Stops at 1. Terrible list.
What would be yours mr Phoenix?
@professorrespect: originally had her at 1, but I consulted people with more comic expertise than I (I don’t read comics so I don’t know what the best order is) & they suggested she was too low
Ye, I'd switch up the order a bit, put Juggs higher, and Wanda would be last round. Regardless, Kara could indeed stop at 1, even if she manages to beat Magneto, she gets stomped by Juggernaut, whom she can't hurt at all. Gets stomped by everyone else anyway, regardless of order.
@webinyoureye11: As someone who has actually read some of her recent showings, I wouldn't say she's anything above Magneto. Juggernaut sure, but Erik would wipe her out pretty easy while in character.
@webinyoureye11: Don't listen to the above guy, he's just baiting, her relatively recent showings have been above Magneto's paygrade, and honestly most of the gauntlet, if not all. I could list out a few feats, if you're interested, even discounting House of M feats.
@soratoumiga: Im always open to seeing more feats. It would be more helpful for future lists if I see where these characters actually stand, instead of just the usual complaints about the order being wrong with no actual helpful input
@professorrespect: I’m getting conflicting reports here.... got any feats to back up your position?
@webinyoureye11: Right, I'll do this once
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/613837136671801355/624682646576037979/3.jpg
Gets knocked out by Thor falling on to her once (this is from the 90's Avengers run)
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/613837136671801355/624674814115840010/unknown.png
Random fodder created by High Evolutionary knows how to use her Chaos Magic better than she does
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/613837136671801355/624690335355895808/unknown.png
Wanda even admits that said random fodder has better control than she does and is more reliable
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/613837136671801355/624678837246099466/unknown.png
HE fodder knocks Wanda out again by blasting Quicksilver at her
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/613837136671801355/624706711063756810/unknown.png
HE himself one shots Wanda by smashing her into Rogue easily- she's out of the fight for the rest of the period
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/613837136671801355/624707853122404412/unknown.png
HE fodder starts to kill Wanda by manipulating her Chaos Magic against her to rip her apart from the inside
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/613837136671801355/624708278445801512/unknown.png
Wanda is only saved by Vision killing her with a phase backstab, she was unable to kill fodder otherwise
Morgan Le Fey blocks her powers easily and she gets blitzed by random fodder with a sword (Avengers issue 81)
That's pretty recent feats considering Uncanny Avengers came out like, in late 2018. Not even going into some of the other stuff that she's failed to deal with.
@webinyoureye11: Sure, here are some most impressive feats and statements:
First off, the Phoenix Five stated that they fear her, and only her (despite the team they faced having Doctor Strange and Thor), which was later confirmed by the team itself in Avengers vs X-Men#7. This was mainly due to her magic being the counterpart to the Phoenix Force itself, which alone is pretty damn impressive, considering what Phoenix represents. The literal goddess of Witchcraft, Hecate, also noted how Wanda can erase any problem - physical or mental - with a wave of her hand. Even insanely powerful sorceresses, like Morgan le Fay, who have even defeated Doctor Strange at one point, needed Wanda's own power to control the Twilight Sword (weapon used by Surtur, it has busted galaxies, and is comparable to Skyfathers with it), since Morgan didn't have enough power to do it by herself :/. In this same issue (Avengers Vol. 3 #3) she even held her own against Morgan wielding the sword which was described to have enough power to alter reality.
With these statements out of the way, her feats are also remarkable. She has one-shot Enchantress, while she wasn't even at her today's level back in Vision and the Scarlet Witch Vol. 2#9. Doctor Doom is essentially useless against her, since even with prep, she could break out of his traps. In the same issue, Wanda no-sells Captain America's shield thrown at her head (this is mainly proving her superhuman durability, which a lot of people choose to ignore, heh). Also, this proves it too. She has nearly beaten Ultron and stated she was the most powerful threat he has ever faced. This Ultron has beaten Hulk and Thor in the past, just to put things in perspective. She has controlled the chaotic part of the In-Betweener, an entity on par with Galactus (this mainly proves that she can control stuff on cosmic/universal scale, rather than just earthly stuff). Took down/fought Lore on equal grounds. Lore was stated to have tore through the multiverse, in Scarlet Witch Vol. 1 #3 and #4. And her probably most impressive non-HoM feat is her, along with her mother and mentor Agatha, fighting Chaos, the embodiement of chaos, on par with Eternity in Scarlet Witch Vol. 2 #13-14, and managing to banish it. These are off the top of my head, and make me feel like she would be the last in the gauntlet. Oh, and she is versatile, very versatile, she basically can do anything with her magic (reality warping, soul manip, telepathy, telekinesis, force field creation, teleportation, intangibility, precog, invisibility etc).
Oh, PS, the guy above is baiting again, so don't fall for it. Lot of that shit is out of context and have already been debunked, lel.
@soratoumiga: Was this pebble stronger than Cap's shield then?
And the P5 only feared her cuz the magic she got directly counters them, it ain't got anything to do with actual consistent power lol
See? Bait.
And he edited the P5 thing, btw. And he's wrong on it, tbh. It's a direct counter, which just proves my point, her magic is on par with the Phoenix in cosmic hierarchy. inb4 he sends scans from like 5 issues he has read on her.
@soratoumiga: It's a consistent feat with getting knocked out by simple strikes tho
Lol Kara gets murdered here by literally anyone on this list..Why do people put live action peepa against much more potent Comic ones?? Almost always ends in live action getting ripped..
Stops at one. Magneto would rip her to peices period well out of her range..the rest much the same...Why is This even a thread lol
She gets stomped every round. Magneto gives her a brain aneurysm by reversing her blood.
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Ye, I'd switch up the order a bit, put Juggs higher, and Wanda would be last round. Regardless, Kara could indeed stop at 1, even if she manages to beat Magneto, she gets stomped by Juggernaut, whom she can't hurt at all. Gets stomped by everyone else anyway, regardless of order.
Not even with Freeze breath? How good are his speed feats?
@rbt: I think he has resisted Iceman's attacks once, they're not the same as Kara's, but have a same basis. He has also no sold Thor's lightning and Hulk's punches, so I don't think freeze breath would do much.
Also, his speed is meh, but his stamina/durability makes him very, very difficult to put down.
@iflated3go: Can magneto affect iron in blood ?
@germangod1: Kara isn't fast enough to blitz 616 Wanda.
@rbt: I think he has resisted Iceman's attacks once, they're not the same as Kara's, but have a same basis.
Iceman doesn't usually go absolute zero though, which Kara is capable of and with morals off, would have no problems using it.
He has also no sold Thor's lightning and Hulk's punches, so I don't think freeze breath would do much.
I don't doubt he can take Kara's hits. But absolute zero is a very different kind of attack.
Also, his speed is meh, but his stamina/durability makes him very, very difficult to put down.
Fair
@rbt: It's in-character here, though.
@rbt: It's in-character here, though.
I..don't know why I thought it was morals off.
@cosmicbike: slow glass canons like Eric or Wanda rather loses but agree with rest. + didn't Kara oneshoted some interdimensional arachnid creatures and shattered black hole withstanding it's destruction, same Midnight feeds with concept of death + blocks phantom zone projector which bfrs to phantom zone (confirmed in cw as realm beyond time and space by indigo and said to be space between dimensions in tie-in comicbook)? We could call it outlier but in S1 she broke with hv black star alloy and in s2 can match powerful hax alien weapons likw gravity manipulaying tech with hv
+ sb must be powerful to match Mobius who onscreen oneshoted Earth-2 universe across all tome and space where results has been shown in ep2 arrow.
They cannot make like Spectre, Constantine, smallville Kal-El be enough.
anyway, the wank above put aside, she has a chance to both beat/lose to Magneto, gets stomped by everyone else.
@soratoumiga: i am not trying to wank but to tell what has she performed. + she is gonna fight Mobius with rest heroes of multiverse and we all know what kind of sh*t has Mobius done in s8 ep1 Arrow and ep2 shows how bad it's effect was. Sure Hulk or Thor or Norrin spanks her still. Wanda can oneshot if she will react.
@germangod1: The point is, she can react, and then one-shot. Not to mention she can slow down time in mid-blitz and just shoot her up. She did it to 616 Thor, no reason she can't do it to CW Kara.
@soratoumiga: that my point. She would lose to Wanda ( i will edit my previous comment )
@germangod1: Alright.
@soratoumiga: Nope she kills magneto with Blackhole busting HV same with SW and hulk and thor throws juggernaut away and stops at SS
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