(CW) Speedy and Arsenal Vs. (MCU) Captain America and Black Widow

CW:

MCU:

Rules:

• Roy and Thea both get Composite Mirakuru feats
• Cap and Widow both get Composite Super Serum feats
• No prep/knowledge
• All in character but very serious
• Starts 20 feet apart

Location:

Rounds:

1. Strictly H2H

2. Standard Gear

3. All blood lusted with Standard Gear

Callouts:

R1:Widow clears

R2:Team avengers

R3:Still team Avengers

Widow solos. Idk if Cap can since I doubt he's more skilled/better equipped than the duo combined but he'd beat either. And Thea and Roy are still hotter. Well Thea is anyway.

Mirakuru > SSS stats wise. Thea> MCU team skill wise. Thea carries.

If Widow gets SS stats she could probably solo tbh, adding Cap only seals the victory.

No, she doesn't.

Team MCU all rounds.

I could actually imagine a Thea with mirakuru clearing house.

Mcu

Thea had mirakuru? When was this? I remember her having the Lazarus bloodlust, but not Mirakuru. :O

OT: MCU Team. Roy's stats were good w/ Mirakuru, but Cap's stronger not to mention Widow has better equipment. I'mma need to see Thea w/ mirakuru if i'mma change my mind or not.

@sargeras: She never had Mirakuru. She gets composite Mirakuru feats as per OP.

MCU duo wrecks.

Cap is the most skilled here.

Season 3 hype Thea would solo MCU

? So like she gets Roy's mirakuru feats then oor?

thea solos , she is most flexible

Hm. Raw skill, I think it's Thea >= Natasha > Steve > Roy. As far as composite Mirakuru vs composite SSS, it's close. SSS probably has better raw strength feats and an edge in speed, while Mirakuru has better striking feats and an edge in durability. I think all 3 rounds could go either way, but I'll say:

1. MCU
2. CW
3. CW

@sargeras: You don’t need to see Thea with Mirakuru because in the OP, it’s stated that both her and Roy get composite Mirakuru feats. If you don’t know what that means, I don’t believe anyone can help you here.

@sargeras: She gets Roy's feats as well as feats of anyone who was ever on Mirakuru. So any stats feat of anyone on Mirakuru will be applicable to Thea here.

@indomitableregal: How does SSS has an edge in speed?

Yeah, in that case... CW team wins. Deathstroke's mirakuru feats are probably more than enough, especially if Slade's statement about his healing factor is to be taken literally. MCU team can't put them down.

Because of stats or skill?

Well how would you stack up Slade's speed against the highway chase scene or Cap running circles around Falcon?

I'd imagine The Super Soldgiers would pull an edge

I think Slade is considerably faster than that, tbh. Heck, even Oliver has better running speed feats than those(the bike chase and puma feat). Slade straight up disappeared from front of a guy.

As far as combat speed goes, I think Slade has Steve beat there as well. His feat against Blood and his men is really good. IIRC, Oliver once threw like 8 hits in a second and a half and Slade blocked each and every one of them.

Slade has reflexes as well.

I agree with you on combat speed. I forgot the Brother Blood scene.

I think that Steve and Natasha can win this fight, especially given her gear and the massive physical boost she would receive by being a SS.

Falcon and Winter Soldier bump.

Does it change any deciding factors? Or do people still have the same answers.