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#1 Posted by GeorgeWBush (8069 posts) - - Show Bio

MORALS OFF FOR EVAN PETERS

WHO WINS

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#2 Posted by Cosmic_Templar (2571 posts) - - Show Bio

Savitar seems really fast, much faster than Quicksilver. Also Quicksilver has normal human strength while Savitar seems to have peak human strength.

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#3 Posted by joshua755 (1579 posts) - - Show Bio

@cosmic_templar: ok I really have to see this espiode now if he as fast if not faster than fox quicksilver

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#4 Posted by HellionVulcan (5924 posts) - - Show Bio

Savitar seems really fast, much faster than Quicksilver. Also Quicksilver has normal human strength while Savitar seems to have peak human strength.

Quicksilver speed was said to be over mach 150 and he wasn't 100% serious either but if Savitar is over that speed he should take it.

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#5 Posted by buildhare (6544 posts) - - Show Bio

If Savitars best feat is not being perceived by Barry he loses.

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#6 Edited by uugieboogie (12196 posts) - - Show Bio

Savitar seems really fast, much faster than Quicksilver. Also Quicksilver has normal human strength while Savitar seems to have peak human strength.

Quicksilver was launching people across the lawn. As of right now he's a lot stronger than Savitar.

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#7 Posted by Thedarkking25 (496 posts) - - Show Bio

Are yall blind he's won't be able to see him only someone with the speedforce can qs will basically be fighting something invisible

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#8 Posted by Royal_Warrior (3626 posts) - - Show Bio

Pietro as of now, Savitar looked reasonably fast but barry could percieve except for when he did that wormhole thing which we have no idea what he is

I feel we should wait until Savitar has more feats before he is used in battles

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#9 Posted by DragonBornTookAnArrowToTheKnee789 (386 posts) - - Show Bio

Savitar wins this for now.

So far only those who have a connection to the speedforce such as Barry or Edward((The Rival)) are capable of seeing him, granted he does seem to be able to use this ability whenever seeing as Dr Alchemy can see him and probably his other followers.

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#10 Posted by The_Kidd (8790 posts) - - Show Bio

Pietro for now. Savitar powerset and speed are unclear at the moment.

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#11 Edited by Bats16 (468 posts) - - Show Bio

Quicksilver won't even be able to see who he's fighting as only those with a connection to the speedforce can see Savitar. It doesn't matter how fast he is. He can't win this.

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#12 Posted by blackestnight93 (14834 posts) - - Show Bio

Gonna need to see more from Savitar as of now

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#13 Edited by LDM (2966 posts) - - Show Bio

Pietro is almost infinitely faster than Savitar :

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But he can't win against what he can't see, so Savitar FTW i guess

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#14 Posted by Ready_4_Madness (9294 posts) - - Show Bio

Savitar can't be seen so

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#15 Edited by Solid_Snake97 (8730 posts) - - Show Bio

Pietro doesn't have the SF. So since he can't see an INVISIBLE speedster who's willing to kill I'm guessing things don't end well for him.

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#16 Posted by xtreme1 (3359 posts) - - Show Bio

I think the majority have it right...Savitar wins due to invisibility.

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#17 Posted by USSJ3071 (2529 posts) - - Show Bio

savitar and the gap will only get bigger once savitar decides to get serious. he cant even see savitar

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#18 Posted by Royal_Warrior (3626 posts) - - Show Bio

Playing devils advocate but how is Savitar going to see Pietro? He has no feats to suggest he can seee someone that fast

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#19 Posted by GXrevs06 (2223 posts) - - Show Bio

Quicksilver but it's closer

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#20 Edited by LokLegends (486 posts) - - Show Bio

@solid_snake97 said:

Pietro doesn't have the SF. So since he can't see an INVISIBLE speedster who's willing to kill I'm guessing things don't end well for him.

@xtreme1 said:

Savitar wins due to invisibility.

@bats16 said:

Quicksilver won't even be able to see who he's fighting as only those with a connection to the speedforce can see Savitar.

The equalization rule comes into effect. Quicksilver will be able to see him for this match up despite not having the speed force.

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Playing devils advocate but how is Savitar going to see Pietro? He has no feats to suggest he can seee someone that fast

Other than being many times faster than Flash himself

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#21 Posted by LDM (2966 posts) - - Show Bio

If Quicksilver can see him than he would god stomp Savitar

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#22 Posted by Bats16 (468 posts) - - Show Bio

@solid_snake97 said:

Pietro doesn't have the SF. So since he can't see an INVISIBLE speedster who's willing to kill I'm guessing things don't end well for him.

@xtreme1 said:

Savitar wins due to invisibility.

@bats16 said:

Quicksilver won't even be able to see who he's fighting as only those with a connection to the speedforce can see Savitar.

The equalization rule comes into effect. Quicksilver will be able to see him for this match up despite not having the speed force.

@royal_warrior said:

Playing devils advocate but how is Savitar going to see Pietro? He has no feats to suggest he can seee someone that fast

Other than being many times faster than Flash himself

That's not how this works. Quicksilver doesn't just get the abilities of the speedforce in order to make the matchup fairer.

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#23 Posted by captain_batman_FTW (8905 posts) - - Show Bio

Quicksilver wins, but it's close. He was a blur to Barry.

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#24 Posted by highaccuser (32023 posts) - - Show Bio

Flash would beat Quicksilver.

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#25 Posted by RBT (16528 posts) - - Show Bio

Assuming Peter can see him, it could go either way tbh. Savitar seemed insanely fast, with pretty much teleporting all over the city in an instant.

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#26 Posted by highaccuser (32023 posts) - - Show Bio

Savitar stomps.

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#27 Posted by SupremeGeneration (6632 posts) - - Show Bio

Flash would beat Quicksilver.

B/c of experience and not speed, rite?

Pietro as of now, Savitar looked reasonably fast but barry could percieve except for when he did that wormhole thing which we have no idea what he is

Honestly, I think Savitar was just going that fast. The wormhole thing might just be how he sees the Speed Force, like how RF has it yellow and Zoom had it blue (sure, it was due to that V9 thing, but it was still blue for a very long time).

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#29 Posted by Black_Arrow (9469 posts) - - Show Bio

Savitar can't be seen and If we use what we know, He is faster than Quicksilver.

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#30 Posted by Pokeysteve (11824 posts) - - Show Bio

@uugieboogie: I don't think Quicksilver sending people across the lawn is a strength feat. It's momentum combined with the fact that people appear to be almost weightless at those speeds. No one has ever talked about comic book speedsters strength and they move a couple people at a time.

Savitar was basically omnipresent within the city. Plus those wrist blades. Quicksilver is in trouble.

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#31 Edited by uugieboogie (12196 posts) - - Show Bio

@Pokeysteve said:

@uugieboogie: I don't think Quicksilver sending people across the lawn is a strength feat. It's momentum combined with the fact that people appear to be almost weightless at those speeds. No one has ever talked about comic book speedsters strength and they move a couple people at a time.

Fair enough

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#32 Posted by cfrehse (2829 posts) - - Show Bio

who is actually faster?

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#33 Posted by captain_batman_FTW (8905 posts) - - Show Bio

It could go either way even if Quicksilver can see Savitar. He was so fast that when Savitar ran around the city, it was like instantaneous for Flash.

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#34 Posted by FirestormFate1919 (4339 posts) - - Show Bio

This is a stalemate at best. Quicksilver can't see Savitar as he's not connected to the Speed-Force, and due to lacking extrenuous speed-related abilities I doubt he can harm him even if he could.

That said, I think Savitar is much faster than Pietro for now. Characters such as Flash and Zoom aren't as fast as Pietro on average, but have better high-end feats, leading me to believe Pietro's not all that faster. I actually think Barry or Zoom have a good shot at beating Pietro due to being somewhat on his level, and having a vast variety of abilities derived from their speed. Savitar was so fast he appeared in multiple places across the city simultaniously, and casually entered and exited the Speed-Force at will. Barry could barely perceive him, seeing only white lightning streaks when Savitar was in motion. This means Savitar is leagues above Barry, and I'd say scaling off that he's a good bit above Pietro as well.

Even if Quicksilver is faster, it's not gonna be by a huge degree. His lack of ability to find or hurt Savitar means eventually he'll slow down. When that happens Savitar guts him. Wether Savitar is faster or not (I believe he's a good bit faster), he wins this.

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#35 Posted by blackpantherisb (3987 posts) - - Show Bio

QS ran at over Mach 100,000 Barry can see Savitar move and Barry is only Mach 20 tops QS could run across the area while savitar isn't moving and as soon as he feels sitar he kills him

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#36 Edited by qdavis44 (168 posts) - - Show Bio

QS in a Godstomp.DC fanboys are the most illogical fans of all time.The only way QS would lose would be because of the invisibility factor but beside that QS is wayyyyyyy to fast

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#38 Posted by blackpantherisb (3987 posts) - - Show Bio

@thedarkking25: The thing is that QS could run the nearest 1,000 square miles till he bumps into savitar and then tear him to shreds. This would happen before savitar could blink considering he's not over Mach 100 and QS is over Mach 100,000

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#39 Posted by nerdchore (7054 posts) - - Show Bio

Its silly that anyone thinks quilsilver could win

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#40 Posted by deactivated-59d29c479f1ca (4067 posts) - - Show Bio

Stalemate or savitar .

Quicksilver can't penetrate his armor which tanked bullet and killer Frost absolute zero ( close to ).

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#41 Posted by mrmonster (5655 posts) - - Show Bio

Savitar

A) Quicksilver couldn't see him and B) even though Barry could see him, he picked him up and dragged him like a rag doll across the city so fast even his suit tracker couldn't keep up. Either that, or he was somehow moving through wormholes or something crazy. But either way, Savitar wins.

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#42 Posted by mrmonster (5655 posts) - - Show Bio

@qdavis44: Please tell me how he's going to fight something he can't see. Savitar would just stab him before he could see it.

Quicksilver got his *** handed to him by Apocalypse, who is nowhere close to as fast as Savitar. Granted Apocalypse has plenty of other powers, but still, speed is the key factor in this fight.

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#43 Posted by touma (1723 posts) - - Show Bio

This savitar guy looks freaking cool. got to see new season of flash.

on topic I don't think quicksilver is as fast as some people think Fox fans are crazy (for them magneto is Planetary, Jean Grey can beat Doomsday or silver surfer. Quicksilver is 100, 000 March lol just lol at quicksilver who got his ass kicked with a guy with no speed feats. )

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#44 Edited by DeathHero61 (16117 posts) - - Show Bio

@cosmic_templar said:

Savitar seems really fast, much faster than Quicksilver. Also Quicksilver has normal human strength while Savitar seems to have peak human strength.

Quicksilver speed was said to be over mach 150 and he wasn't 100% serious either but if Savitar is over that speed he should take it.

When?

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#45 Posted by Spiderfankid (1 posts) - - Show Bio

Savitar wins. He was present all over the city at once. As for him being invisible, I don't think it has something to do with Speed Force. I guess he was phasing at super speed making himself invisible. However, Quicksilver can't hurt him because of that awesome armor. Savitar FTW.

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#46 Posted by therealflash (8 posts) - - Show Bio

Fox ftw. He travels at light speed. Savitar is only Mach 100

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#47 Posted by GXrevs06 (2223 posts) - - Show Bio

Quicksilver for now. Being faster than Barry does not automatically put him faster than Quicksilver, especially seeing as the latter is also much faster than Barry

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#48 Posted by Sebast_Allen (2707 posts) - - Show Bio

Pietro can hit Savitar at speeds fractionally surpassing light, that's more than enough to turn Savitar to mush.

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#49 Edited by RBT (16528 posts) - - Show Bio

Pietro can hit Savitar at speeds fractionally surpassing light, that's more than enough to turn Savitar to mush.

QS is FTL? Since when?

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#50 Posted by js_the_beast (688 posts) - - Show Bio

QS stomps