

In character
Win via Death or KO
Takes place where T'Challa fought Killmonger by the waterfall
Standard knowledge before fight
- No gear, no Herb, No serum
- Both get normal clothes, BP Gets Herb, Diaz gets Serum
Who wins?
Diaz stomps round 1, gets stomped round 2.
Diaz stomps round 1, gets stomped round 2.
x
T'Challa loses the first round because he sucks without the herb. At least Diaz has feats beating pretty skilled opponents.
Diaz loses round 2 through.
Diaz stomps 1. Loses 2.
Probably T'Challa for R1. Lack of enhansments affected his fighting style badly. He's not used to it. But Diaz isn't good either.
Panther destroys him in 2. There's no advantages for Diaz.
I don't really see why Diaz stomps round 1. His only win is against Thea who was said to be out of practice. He's lost every fight against Oliver. Yes he held his own but that doesn't make him an equal just because Oliver didn't wreck him with 0 difficulty. He's also lost to Diggle who also is clearly not Oliver's equal.
I stand by the fact that based on consistent showings M'baku would defeat Diggle. T'challa also has the better training back ground than Diaz on paper. Diaz can give T'challa a good fight since he has given better fighters than depowered T'challa problems but I think I would back T'challa still.
Probably T'Challa for R1. Lack of enhansments affected his fighting style badly. He's not used to it. But Diaz isn't good either.
Panther destroys him in 2. There's no advantages for Diaz.
R1: T’challa
R2: Mismatch in T’challa’s favor
Fighting doesn't work like a boxing match. Whether or not Diaz would have won if he pressed his advantage is unknown. But regardless Diaz is arrogant so it doesn't matter. We saw it when he was enhanced and fought Oliver in prison, we saw it when he tried to kill Felicity in her apartment, etc.
Fighting doesn't work like a boxing match. Whether or not Diaz would have won if he pressed his advantage is unknown. But regardless Diaz is arrogant so it doesn't matter. We saw it when he was enhanced and fought Oliver in prison, we saw it when he tried to kill Felicity in her apartment, etc.
You're right fighting doesn't work like a boxing match but as you said we don't know whether or not Diaz would've won that fight if he kept the pressure on but from the looks of it he had a pretty fair chance of winning. I don't think the Felicity thing should be considered iirc Diaz did state he was in a pretty shitty condition after Laurel blasted him off the roof. The serum brought him back to good health.
You're right about the arrogance thing but T'Challa isn't exactly on Oliver's level while herbless so I don't think that if Diaz was arrogant towards T'Challa it wouldn't be as costly.
You're right fighting doesn't work like a boxing match but as you said we don't know whether or not Diaz would've won that fight if he kept the pressure on but from the looks of it he had a pretty fair chance of winning.
I have faith in Oliver. Prometheus also threw Oliver to the ground a few times, but Oliver beat him pretty decisively multiple times. Hell we even saw Oliver recover before when Prometheus threw him to the ground.
Even if Diaz did press his advantage successfully, and Oliver failed to do what he did to Prometheus, Oliver is a tough guy. I think Oliver could take a few kicks from Diaz to recover. Oliver has done more for me to have confidence in him than Diaz has done for me to have confidence in him. Considering all of there fights, if I were a betting man, I would bet on Oliver recovering and reversing the situation like he did. Even if Diaz weren't arrogant.
Diaz lost. We have no idea if he could have won if he pressed his advantage. I don't have a lot of confidence in Diaz winning a minority on Oliver at the moment because even when he was buffed up Oliver still found a way to win, and he lost to Diggle who would also probably lose 10/10.
I don't think the Felicity thing should be considered iirc Diaz did state he was in a pretty shitty condition after Laurel blasted him off the roof. The serum brought him back to good health.
My point is Diaz does this continuously.
You're right about the arrogance thing but T'Challa isn't exactly on Oliver's level while herbless so I don't think that if Diaz was arrogant towards T'Challa it wouldn't be as costly.
I don't think T'challa can beat Oliver for a minority. But neither can Diaz evidently. As for his arrogance not being costly, arrogance can be costly against anyone. Another point to bring up is that before his fight with Oliver he punched Oliver a bunch of times before the fight began. I remember at the time people were saying that first fight had context to it. So that is also something to consider.
The only thing Diaz has going for him is he has faced more established characters but his track record against those characters isn't good (I don't count Thea as an established character because it was said she wasn't at her best). While characters like M'baku may not be the most established M'baku has his feats against the outrider, and he did show impressive physicals. And T'challa fought him in the water which limits his speed and agility and plays to m'baku's strength. He also does have accolades like having the highest level of training in the MCU. Diaz also has virtually no ground game to speak of whereas T'challa has actually shown good ground game.
I don't really see why Diaz stomps round 1. His only win is against Thea who was said to be out of practice. He's lost every fight against Oliver. Yes he held his own but that doesn't make him an equal just because Oliver didn't wreck him with 0 difficulty. He's also lost to Diggle who also is clearly not Oliver's equal.
I stand by the fact that based on consistent showings M'baku would defeat Diggle. T'challa also has the better training back ground than Diaz on paper. Diaz can give T'challa a good fight since he has given better fighters than depowered T'challa problems but I think I would back T'challa still.
I find myself agreeing with this for the most part.
I got Diaz in a good fight for round 1, but T'Challa in a stomp for round 2.
R1- Diaz but not in a stomp
R2- T'Challa curbs for obvious reasons.
Please Log In to post.
Log in to comment