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#1  Edited By Firedude17

CW JL:

  • Supergirl
  • Flash
  • Green Arrow
  • Spartan
  • White Canary
  • Speedy
  • Atom
  • Firestorm
  • Heatwave

MCU Avengers:

  • Thor
  • Hulk
  • Vision
  • Iron Man
  • Captain America
  • Black Widow
  • Hawkeye
  • Ant-Man
  • Falcon

MORALS ON, IN CHARACTER, BUT WITH STRONG INTENTION TO WIN WITH ANY MEANS POSSIBLE!!

JL or Avengers!!?

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Still not answer to Kara, who was legitimately keeping up with Barry in the crossover. JL takes this. Kara and Barry being MVP.

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JL!! Flash can take out half of the team.

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JL Heavy hitters:

  • Supergirl
  • Flash
  • Firestorm
  • Atom

Street level:

  • Green Arrow
  • Speedy
  • Spartan
  • White Canary
  • Heatwave

MCU Heavy hitters:

  • Thor
  • Vision
  • Hulk
  • Iron Man

Street level:

  • Captain America
  • Falcon
  • Black Widow
  • Hawkeye
  • Ant-Man
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Cw team wins.

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Leaning slightly towards the CW league with Kara being the MVP

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Avengers, easily. Everyone on Team CW besides Barry and Kara is fodder. Thor takes Barry out with an AOE attack while Hulk, Vision and Tony mop up

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JL Heavy hitters:

  • Supergirl
  • Flash
  • Firestorm
  • Atom

Street level:

  • Green Arrow
  • Speedy
  • Spartan
  • White Canary
  • Heatwave

MCU Heavy hitters:

  • Thor
  • Vision
  • Hulk
  • Iron Man

Street level:

  • Captain America
  • Falcon
  • Black Widow
  • Hawkeye
  • Ant-Man

If we're including Giant-Man, I'd place him in the heavy hitters too (above Iron Man actually)

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CW team for the majority.

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MCU with ease. The likes of Thor, Hulk, and/or Vision could possibly solo. All of them together?

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I don't see the flash beating Thor, Hulk, Vision or Ironman and I don't think Supergirl can take all 4. Most of the other characters don't matter.

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My money is on CW, but it would be very close. I would also like to see more of Atom's feats with his new suit.

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I am not sure if Flash's lightning is really powerful or if ATOM and Firestorm are just fodder.

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I'll wait for to Crossover to end before making a a decision.

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I am not sure if Flash's lightning is really powerful or if ATOM and Firestorm are just fodder.

Barry did turn Sand Demon into glass

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CW wins, but it will be a hard fight with Hulk around.

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CW wins mainly because their biggest gun, Firestorm, can go nuclear which is around town lvl. Hulk and Thor are multi-city block level and town lvl > multi-city block.

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The Avengers. The Justice League's only remote hope is Supergirl, and even she fails to beat Hulk and Thor.

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JL Heavy hitters:

  • Supergirl
  • Flash
  • Firestorm
  • Atom

Street level:

  • Green Arrow
  • Speedy
  • Spartan
  • White Canary
  • Heatwave

MCU Heavy hitters:

  • Thor
  • Vision
  • Hulk
  • Iron Man

Street level:

  • Captain America
  • Falcon
  • Black Widow
  • Hawkeye
  • Ant-Man

How is mcu iron man a heavy hitter srsly? Best he has done is hulkbuster armor. Supergirls would one shot that with heat vision or fly trough like a butter.

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Supergirl and Flash could potentially solo

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#22  Edited By PayneInTheAss

@firedude17: This CW team is the official one for the Invasion crossover?

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Flash takes out majority. Also Thor Lightning won't be an issue. Flash just got a multitude of awesome speed feats. Today he EASILY outran lightning and moved that dude out of the way. Not sure if Thors lightning is regular speed or not but I feel Barry can outrun it.

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Spite. Kara solos.

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Flash isn't putting down Hulk, Thor or Vision and would have trouble with Iron Man depending which armor he's wearing. The only way you can think Kara is beating all 4 is if you only take her high end feats ignoring everything else.

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The CW street levelers are stomped by the Avengers street levelers regardless of scenario

The high tiers (Flash and Kara) either stomp the Avengers or get stomped by them depending on character/morals.

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Honestly what's stopping Vision or Hulk from KOing Kara?

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Geez i just finished season 1 of supergirl...... So behind.....

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Ant Man legit solos the street levelers on CW's team lmao.

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Honestly don't see the street lvlrs vs street lvlrs bit of the fight being all that much of a stomp tbh.

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i liked the cw street levelers in the range department. their biggest probably honestly will be falcon, but i think Ollie can take him down.

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Cw team wins with difficulty.

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The CW team has 2 ridiculous marksmen in Spartan and Ollie, both of which have rapid fire accuracy feats that far surpass anything on the MCU street level team. With the exception of Cap and Ant Man, every street leveler goes down without too much of a fuss from either the CW street team or Barry.

The rest is a bit iffy. No one on the MCU team has any way to actually deal with Kara and Barrys speed, that being said without offensive phasing I don't see what Barry is actually going to do to the heavy hitters of the MCU other than grab them and run them somewhere else. He rarely fights people with the kind of overt durability that Thor and Hulk have since the majority of his opponents are not bullet proof (and the one that was he broke his hand punching).

Kara in a 1v1 situation should be able to handily beat Hulk and Thor, but without any real backup she should go down eventually. Without Kara the CW team can't win since no one else with morals can beat Thor and Hulk.

All things considered, I'd honestly say the MCU team wins? Discounting Vision because I'm tired of making the same arguments over and over, everyone on the MCU team loses except Thor and Hulk. The problem comes down to the fact that only Kara can beat Hulk and Thor while the rest don't stand much a chance against the two. The only way CW team stands a chance is if Flash keeps Hulk distracted so that Kara can comfortably solo Thor. If that doesn't happen then eventually Kara's going down and then its only a matter of time until the CW team goes the way of Earth 2.

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@Shintakie said:

The CW team has 2 ridiculous marksmen in Spartan and Ollie, both of which have rapid fire accuracy feats that far surpass anything on the MCU street level team. With the exception of Cap and Ant Man, every street leveler goes down without too much of a fuss from either the CW street team or Barry.

The rest is a bit iffy. No one on the MCU team has any way to actually deal with Kara and Barrys speed, that being said without offensive phasing I don't see what Barry is actually going to do to the heavy hitters of the MCU other than grab them and run them somewhere else. He rarely fights people with the kind of overt durability that Thor and Hulk have since the majority of his opponents are not bullet proof (and the one that was he broke his hand punching).

Kara in a 1v1 situation should be able to handily beat Hulk and Thor, but without any real backup she should go down eventually. Without Kara the CW team can't win since no one else with morals can beat Thor and Hulk.

All things considered, I'd honestly say the MCU team wins? Discounting Vision because I'm tired of making the same arguments over and over, everyone on the MCU team loses except Thor and Hulk. The problem comes down to the fact that only Kara can beat Hulk and Thor while the rest don't stand much a chance against the two. The only way CW team stands a chance is if Flash keeps Hulk distracted so that Kara can comfortably solo Thor. If that doesn't happen then eventually Kara's going down and then its only a matter of time until the CW team goes the way of Earth 2.

Barry and Supergirl with their speed advantage they would take out Hawkeye , black widow, thor , Falcon and ant man like he taken out team arrow in crossover in the beginning of the battle.

Thor has superhuman durability but close to steel which could break his hand .

Thor could get knock out or incapacitated by supersonic punch , bullet and arrows too.

then Ironman (if he tanked the punch ) , hulk and vision .

Vision can be KO by lighting tossing by Barry as he did in crossover and king shark episode .

atom could takeout Ironman like ant man did since his suit could shrink to the size so small that could pass through blood vessel .

Then it's HULK vs Team ( mostly atom , Supergirl , Flash , firestorm , heatwave's gun , explosive arrows , bullets etc )

So CW team wins.

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crazy how captain steel isnt in this

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CW

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MCU both Supergirl and Flash are really incompetent with using thier powers in combat

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CW assuming no jobbing.

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The Avengers.

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@rbt said:

Still not answer to Kara, who was legitimately keeping up with Barry in the crossover. JL takes this. Kara and Barry being MVP.

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Kara solos. A good half of the Avengers' team are non-factors while the JL still has Flash and Firestorm as backup. Thor and Hulk are the only powerhouses but nowhere near Kara or Flash's levels, Flash can just speed blitz Hulk out of existence and Thor's feats simply aren't enough to take out Kara.

JL easily.

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@vooon said:

Kara solos. A good half of the Avengers' team are non-factors while the JL still has Flash and Firestorm as backup. Thor and Hulk are the only powerhouses but nowhere near Kara or Flash's levels, Flash can just speed blitz Hulk out of existence and Thor's feats simply aren't enough to take out Kara.

JL easily.

No... you're overwanking the CW powerhouses and lowballing the MCU ones to ridiculous proportions. Vision is also a powerhouse and just as many CW fighters are street levelers/non-factors as The Avengers. Firestorm isn't really much help due to his weak durability and morals. Thor and Vision are on the same level as Kara (but job much less) and The Flash has no way of harming either of them. The Avengers should win with high difficulty.

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#43  Edited By vooon

@mutant1230: I forgot about Vision but I don't he would make much of a difference in this situation. I disagree with Thor being on the same level as Kara.

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#44  Edited By Mutant1230

@vooon: You can think whatever you want but Thor and Kara objectively have extraordinarily similar feats. Granted, she has superior flight but he has superior projectiles. With all that in mind Vision is one the same level as Thor but no one on Team CW is the same level as Supergirl. 1 against 2 isn't fair when just one of those opponents is equal to you in power. Once that fight ends no one else really has much of a shot of taking the big guns out.

I don't see how The Avengers lose here.

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#46  Edited By tj849

Just Supergirl, Barry and Firestorm would get the job done tbh.

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JL Heavy hitters:

  • Supergirl
  • Flash
  • Firestorm
  • Atom

Street level:

  • Green Arrow
  • Speedy
  • Spartan
  • White Canary
  • Heatwave

MCU Heavy hitters:

  • Thor
  • Vision
  • Hulk
  • Iron Man

Street level:

  • Captain America
  • Falcon
  • Black Widow
  • Hawkeye
  • Ant-Man

ant man is street level? whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat ?

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#48  Edited By vooon

@mutant1230: They don't have the same feats, Kara is a lot faster than Thor. She is stronger than him as well. Compare her pure stats and then add the Heat Vision and Frost Breath to the mix and you can see how he just isn't enough to take her down. After Thor is taken out of the fight, the whole Avengers will go downhill. Even if Thor manages to take down Kara with him (highly unlikely) the Avengers would still have to deal with Flash and Firestorm (arguably more versatile than Flash).

JL easily wins this one.

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@vooon:

  1. She's not faster than Thor or Vision with combat speed. In travel speed she might be, but like I said she has a flight advantage but it's evened out by his projectile lightning and Vision's phasing.
  2. She isn't stronger than him in combat feats actually. If you discount her lifting feats (which you should since they don't always correlate with combat prowess) striking between her and Thor are mostly the same. Neither one really has an advantage in this category, and by scaling/extension Vision is the same.
  3. Her Frost Breathe and Heat Vision aren't powerful enough to take down Thor or Vision easily. She had to use everything in her arsenal to destroy Red Tornado with Heat Vision and that was only after he arrogantly stood in the way thinking he could tank all of it. Smart fighters like Thor and Vision won't make that mistake or will retaliate with their own power.
  4. The Flash can't do anything to Thor, Vision or Hulk. There healing factors and durability are too much for him and he'll eventually tire or hurt himself trying to punch them. Firestorm can only transmute when he's physical proximity with someone and it takes over ten seconds to do so, he's also what we call a glass cannon. Meaning he can dish out powerful attacks but doesn't have equal durability. Cap could probably take him down with his Vibranium Shield and throwing skills.

JL can't win with all of these factors in mind.

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CW Justice League in a cool match. Flash can take all of them out except for Vision but that's still questionable.