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Poll CW Flash & Supergirl vs New-52 Superman (39 votes)

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Kara one shots

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Superman one shots both with a single punch

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Flash jobs right at the start of the battle leaving Kara one v one she puts up a decent fight but looses eventually.

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lol Is New 52 Superman really this weak? I haven't read modern Superman comics in awhile, and I knew he wasn't Post-Crisis level. But I thought he was still high tier.

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This is spite lol.

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@mutant1230: Even if Superman didnt fight back they couldn't hurt him

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@mutant1230: lol no he bench press the weight of the planet for 3 days straight with stopping he is far from weak

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@mutant1230: lol no he bench press the weight of the planet for 3 days straight with stopping he is far from weak

If CW Flash and Supergirl can seriously stand a chance against him, he's a pretty weak comic high tier.

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Kal wrecks

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Supes.

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Superman comfortably

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Supes unless flash doesnt job and phases.

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@mutant1230: .... you do realize CW Flash & CW Supergirl arent weak ... right?

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inb4 someone says he blitzes.

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#17  Edited By Lilbroomstick

New 52 Superman would only lose due to CIS and jobbing(flash jobs even worse so it wouldn't make a difference here). He blitzes honestly

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#18  Edited By Mutant1230

@mutant1230: CW Flash & Supergirl aren’t weak

@darkonast said: .... you do realize CW Flash & CW Supergirl arent weak ... right?

By live-action standards, yes. They should be hilariously weaker than a comic high tier like Superman.

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Supes mists them

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@mutant1230: they’re comic book level now, they have some great feats. The perception of comic book characters always being superior is clouding your judgement.

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New 52 Superman stomps.

STRENGTH!

Superman was able to move Brainiacs ship, which was easily over 2x the size of Earth: though Martain Manhunter helped...

Superman was able to benchpress the equal weight of the Earth for 5 days straight without any sunlight, and said "That's it? That's all... you've... got?"

STRIKING POWER!

He has managed to punch so hard the force of it was able to reach from inside the earths crust to the outeratmosphere. Batman even believes that Sups can turn the moon to dust with a single punch.

Superman should scale to new 52 Doomsday, the same DD that was able to punch out of the Phantom Zone: mentioned to be in DDs weakest state.

SPEED!

Its been stated that Superman has flown through Black Holes, making him FTL (also a durability feat)

He can even somewhat combat New 52 Flash: who's fast asf

Sups once flew from the edge of the Universe to Earth in 60 days, while in a weakened state.

POWER!

His heat beams are able to damage Brainiacs ship, which held up better against a blackhole.

Has his new Solar Flare ability. Which was able to hurt a being who's cells were infused with the essence of the fourth dimension.

DURABILITY!

Stated to fly though a black hole. This has been brought up another time where it was mentioned that he has gone through many black holes in his time as Superman.

Superman once said that exploding sun was a piece of cake for him.

How does the CW team compare?

SUPERGIRL!

Her strength has shown the ability to lift 1 million tons and fly it into space. She has other strength feats that might be notably higher, but she has nothing that can match what we have seen Superman capable of.

Supergirl's has shown to be able to strike down foes who are relative to her own abilities. Supergirl's best durability feat is being able to tank the explosion of Overgirl which was mentioned by Mr Terrific to have the explosion to wipe out the entire middle east. If we take this to fact and complete run it as her durability and striking power to drop someone else like this, she still would be notably short of dealing with Superman's durability and incoming hits.

Supergirl has shown speed capable of flying around the Earth several times in a second. The show state it to be "just over mach 7"... Anyways, if we consider the high-end of this we would find that Supergirl [according to some calcs] has a speed of roughly over 60% the speed of light. Supergirl was also able to tag Amazo, who had The Flash's speed (S5). Though she still can't keep up with Superman.

lets talk about CW The Flash...

The Flash's best damage he has shown can be managed through his punching satelite feat, but thats got alot of different calcs... an easy one we can find is him being able to exert 4 billion joules of energy into a punch. We know in S4 that it takes 3 billion joules to counter a nuke... so you could argue that barry is nuke lvl? Yet even if you said he was a fat country lvl, it doesn't matter here cause Sups probably can't even get his back scratched by Barry here. Barry might be able to do something with fazing... but its unlikely he even tries, but if he has a massive speed edge, it 'might' be possible...

Now the most important part! SPEED! Barrys BEST! speed feat is being able to travel several rooms and make it through a portal that closes in 3 picoseconds ("or less"). One can argue that Barry can't do this due to needing more energy to manage this, but we have seen in S5 that he was able to draw out 4 billion joules, while in S4 he was only able to bring out 1 billion when trying to stop the nuke. Barry at the least should have th energy now to do this feat naturally. This speed feat has calcs that bring Barry into over 100,000x FTL. WOW THATS... still much slower than 52-Sups....

Side note- Barry probably can't BFR Sups... sups is too fast, probably can't even be moved by Flash, and might even be able to get out like DD had. Its more likely Barry or Kara get BFR'd into space (btw Kara can't breath in space: its been well established)

Conclusion

Even when drawing out the CWs duos peak performances, they still can't even manage to bother Superman in the slightest. You can fuse them and multiply them by 100 and you'd still find Sups outperforming them in a fight.

New 52 Supermans EATS! the majority

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@mutant1230: they’re comic book level now, they have some great feats. The perception of comic book characters always being superior is clouding your judgement.

Their high end feats are comic book level, but they're not consistent enough for those to be seriously considered. Especially not a comic book high tier, the standards are totally different there. What counts as powerful in live action can be as low as low tier in comic books.

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Superman one shots both with a single punch

Can he though? Kara can split a planet with a sneeze. Imagine what her punch could do.

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@rbt: When was this?

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@rbt: When was this?

Its a statement from Lex. She has never done anything of that magnitude on screen.

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#28  Edited By Hamster555

@mutant1230 Didn't Anti-monitor wiped out Earth N52 ? According to Wolfman it is New 52 comic universe and Supergirl could harm Anti-monitor with laser ( nothing suggested he was weakened ). But Still Superman has more broken feats like ramming through Phantom Stranger. But Supergirl in majority still has this Quantum Tower feat. Still Supes beats her but that kind of claiming is weak really

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New 52 stomps

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Superman eviscerates them with a thought

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@rbt said:
@erkanbeater said:

Superman one shots both with a single punch

Can he though? Kara can split a planet with a sneeze. Imagine what her punch could do.

yes

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@rbt said:
@erkanbeater said:

Superman one shots both with a single punch

Can he though? Kara can split a planet with a sneeze. Imagine what her punch could do.

yes

I don't think he can tank planatery, possibly star level attacks.

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@rbt said:
@erkanbeater said:
@rbt said:
@erkanbeater said:

Superman one shots both with a single punch

Can he though? Kara can split a planet with a sneeze. Imagine what her punch could do.

yes

I don't think he can tank planatery, possibly star level attacks.

yes

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Aint N52 Supes the bad one? Barry takes it.

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#37  Edited By RBT

@rbt said:
@erkanbeater said:
@rbt said:
@erkanbeater said:

Superman one shots both with a single punch

Can he though? Kara can split a planet with a sneeze. Imagine what her punch could do.

yes

I don't think he can tank planatery, possibly star level attacks.

yes

Indeed.

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@rbt said:
@erkanbeater said:
@rbt said:
@erkanbeater said:
@rbt said:
@erkanbeater said:

Superman one shots both with a single punch

Can he though? Kara can split a planet with a sneeze. Imagine what her punch could do.

yes

I don't think he can tank planatery, possibly star level attacks.

yes

Indeed.

yes

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Nuperman is inferior to his Post Crisis Counterpart, but he should win by a decent majority. Good fight.

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#43  Edited By manmadeofhunter

Is N52 really this weak?

I know he's weaker than Post Crisis, but he's still a high tier, right?

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@manmadeofhunter: U know according to Mark Wolvmann E-N52 ( tie-in comic of CW ) is New 52 comics ( overally like some DC company mockbusters ) is part of CW multiverse which Anti-monitor devoured. Also Supergirl in vast majority was able with solar flare charge up Quantum tower to dissipate the Antimatter wave ( precisely slow down ). Superman still has better haxes, speed or strenght but u know....

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Its been about 4 years since I last read the new 52 Superman run but he should be significantly stronger and more powerful (lifting the weight of Planet Earth etc).

He should splatter them

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Nuperman is inferior to his Post Crisis Counterpart, but he should win by a decent majority.

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The one who supported Earth for 5 days without sunlight and went from the edge of the universe to Earth in a month.

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#49  Edited By RBT

Superman isn't tanking a star level punch or black hole level heat vision or absolute zero freeze breath.

Kara one shots.

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#50  Edited By Elijahbane25

@rbt: oh damn I forget that she did that stuff in season 5 welp you basically change my mind Kara definitely one shot agreed