CW Deathstroke VS MCU Captain America

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#1  Edited By mickey-mouse
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Before you say it, yes this has been done before, but the OP was pretty vague and Cap has a bunch of new feats from AOU & Civil War now.

Rules:

  • Gear: Slade Has A Hand Gun Uzi, His Swords, Armor, And Grenades, Cap Has His Shield, Magnetic Wrist Thing, Sticky Bombs(Cap Winter Solider), Hand Gun, and Wrist Grapple(Civil War)
  • Slade Is On Mirakuru
  • Morals Off
  • No Knowledge/Random Encounter
  • Starting 50 Feet Away & Visible: Football Field

Just updated the OP August 13, 2016 7pm Central Time

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Cap

I'll give reasons in next post.

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I'll wait till Age of Ultron comes out...

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The Captain ftw in a good one

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#5  Edited By Sy8000

I've backed Slade in the past but that trailer feat man…I think Steve is just to strong for him now.

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Steve throws a motorcycle through Slade's face.

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I am going to back Cap for this one.

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Steve now IMO

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I've always backed Steve over Slade

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Slade wins.

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@thehunter: Have you seen the latest trailers and TV spots? What are your reasons?

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@lukehero: Slade isn't a car buster and I don't think he's as durable as a car either.

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@lukehero: Yes, I have. I still see Slade having better durability and strength. I see him being more skilled and a bit faster. Not to mention, better gear. It's just gotten closer this time. When the movie comes out, this might completely change though.

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#15  Edited By Lunacyde  Moderator

So AoU feats are allowed?

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Cap.

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Still Slade. Steve doesn't hit hard enough to do significant damage to Slade.

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#18 Lunacyde  Moderator

@rbt said:

Still Slade. Steve doesn't hit hard enough to do significant damage to Slade.

How do you not laugh at yourself?

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@lunacyde said:

@rbt said:

Still Slade. Steve doesn't hit hard enough to do significant damage to Slade.

How do you not laugh at yourself?

I read your posts and laugh at you instead.

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#20 Lunacyde  Moderator

@rbt said:

@lunacyde said:

@rbt said:

Still Slade. Steve doesn't hit hard enough to do significant damage to Slade.

How do you not laugh at yourself?

I read your posts and laugh at you instead.

That's hilarious, now back on topic. Slade's best durability feat is being punched by Roy and it more or less not hurting him. Normal people in the Arrowverse have taken multiple punches from Roy and survived, so please tell me what other feats you have to back your claim.

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@lukehero: Personally I think we should just wait till the movie comes out before redoing this match. IIRC Cap just got one new feat.

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#22  Edited By TheNoobStomper

I vote for Steve.

In both Captain America films he was kicking people around like they were ragdolls,literally sending them flying.Strength-wise,i recall an episode from AoS where this black dude with the centipede serum is pushing a track of some sort in an empty field and covers something like 400 meters in 20 seconds and he goes like "Did i beat Cap's time?" and they answer him "Ha,not even close". (Exact duration of the test etc. i cant recall but it was something of that sort).Speed-wise i think Cap takes it.I believe Winter Soldier was faster than Slade and Cap could keep up with him.

The only reason that should be an issue to Cap is Slade's healing factor.But i suppose,if he gets a clean shot with the shield throw its over for Slade.And catching shields is entirely different from catching arrows.

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@lunacyde:

That's hilarious,

Thank you.

Slade's best durability feat is being punched by Roy and it more or less not hurting him.

Its one of his best feats.

Normal people in the Arrowverse have taken multiple punches from Roy and survived,

Roy has also punched clean through concrete blocks, bomb proof containers, has snapped arm casually, has lifted multiple tonnes with one hand. Low showing would be low showing. Ben not dying is PIS. Or a durability feat of Ben. However you wanna look at it.

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#24  Edited By Lunacyde  Moderator

@rbt:

1. When did Roy lift multiple tons with one hand?

2. Don't act like it's happened one time. Roy has hit plenty of normal humans in the show while he was on Mirakuru and all of them survived, and most of them didn't even suffer serious injury.

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Slade in a close one due to durability and healing factor.

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@rbt: To be fair as far as punches go Steve still has his shield which can smash through metal robots. There is even a clip of widow smashing through the metal robots with the shield. Which means that the shield is so strong/sharp it doesn't take much force for it to cut through metal. I would say more, but it's up to each person if they want to know all the potential spoilers and I am on a cell right now so I can't do spoiler block. @lunacyde: If a character is punchingn through a bomb proof countianer and then punches a human and that human lives that just is either high and low feats in the mix or those characters that are human are really durable. @primez0ne: He actually did a couple of new things whether or not you want to know those spoilers is up to you. He did toss a 500 pound motorbike and smash a jeep with it.

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@lunacyde:

1. When did Roy lift multiple tons with one hand?

S02e10. Roy lifted a huge metal light tower which had gained a good momentum.

2. Don't act like it's happened one time. Roy has hit plenty of normal humans in the show while he was on Mirakuru and all of them survived.

It had happened twice IIRC. Roy oneshotted Ben. He punched the guy in parking lot a few times and gave him internal bleeding and swollen brain. Anyways, his upper end feats are much more in number than low showings, which are done purposely so he doesn't kill everyone he hits. Considering he is still guilt ridden for one kill. Its a comic book TV show. It has bound to have some inconsistency. Just like MCU has tons of inconsistencies, Arrow has too. If we consider each one of them then Bucky hits harder than Thor does with Mjolnir.

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@thehunter: I'm not here to debate, but to listen to others opinions. But, Better Gear? How in this thread Slade would basically only using his Armor and Swords. Neither are as useful or strong as Steve's shield. So I honestly can't see Slade having any real gear advantage. Maybe he wins anyway, but it certainly won't be because of gear. Steve could smash/cut through his armor pretty easily, even widow was capable of smashing through metal robots with the shield in the TV spot.

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Deathstroke still wins but it's a little closer now IMO

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@lukehero: can't it be argued that he used the motorcycle's momentum and the icy roads to his advantage? It's an impressive feat but it's not like he picked it up with one arm and threw it like a frisbee

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@abramdaawesome: Some other users and I were actually discussing the fact that if the bike is moving forward it would actually take more strength on caps part to pull it back and flip it around his head. When this clip came out a lot of review sites actually were saying it was stupid even though it looked awesome. Also many users here comicvine actually complained that it was sort of stupid. Course I reminded them its a Comicbook film, not a physics class.

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@lukehero: would it be harder? I'm a little "green" when it comes to physics, but wouldn't it be easier to transfer the kinetic energy rather than stopping it dead in its tracks?

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Cap throws a motorcycle at him.

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#36  Edited By Phantom16

Deathstroke in a massacre

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@lettsplay10:

After seeing that, I don't see how Deathstroke stands a chance.

Cap stomps.

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"Wheeeeeeen Captain America throws his mighty shi-- *bike."

"All those who oppose his mighty bike, must yiiieeeld."

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Replace the motorcycle with Slade. This fights over.

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@lettsplay10:

That's it. You'd have to be a Deathstroke d***rider to say he wins after seeing this.

Steve stomps 10/10

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Cap throws Slade into a jeep.

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@abramdaawesome: In the gif above I mean the bike is going one way and then he reverses it. I'm certainly not a scientist, but there isn't any way he is using motmentum to toss it.

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Having seen the Arrow series and MCU's Captain America/Avengers movies, Cap's feats are way better than Slades. And if folks figure that Slade has the advantage of of a healing factor, Cap was shot multiple times/beaten to a pulp by a cyborg assassin who has many more decades of combat/assassination than Slade - and he completed his objective and lived (even when he did not want to fight).

Cap will take Slade down easy!!

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So Deathstroke is an object that will stand around and wait for Cap to throw him?

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The movie isn't even out yet and I'm already tired of that bike throw feat.

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....I don't see how throwing a bike makes this a stomp.