CW Arrow vs MCU Black Sky

Elektra imo

Elektra

Elektra. Stronger, faster and more skilled.

Elektra

I don't see Oliver have anyway to put her down.

Honestly I'm going with Green Arrow.

Black Sky

Elektra

This.

Better skill. Better weapons. And way Smarter as well.

Ollie doesn't deserve this arsewhooping.

Going with the one who can solo the Defenders. This isn't a close fight. Oliver would have enough trouble with Matt or Luke Cage alone, let alone taking all 4 of them at once.

Matt already gave her a very good fight while unarmed and unarmored. Oliver>Matt (by decent margin) so he can already replicate what Matt did even without his gear. With his standard equipment? Well...

The problem with Elektra (aside from her ridculous level of inconsistency) is her durability. Oliver might have the upper hand for the entire fight, but he doesn't have a way to put her down for good (especially since he won't go for a killing blow). I suppose that his tranq arrow might do the trick (as it was able to instantly K.O Mirakuru Slade) but Elektra can deal with arrows. Besides, once it comes to cqc, I don't see Elektra giving Oliver enough space for him to make use of his arrows.

Elektra wins thanks to physicals.

Elektra.

Elektra wins

Unless she's holding back she stomps him.

Ollie could conceivably win if he makes smart enough use of his gear, but it's more likely that Elektra wins. Stronger, as fast if not faster, comparable enough skill

She stomps. Mismatch.

Elektra

Elektra.

Elektra can't solo the Defenders. She never hurt Luke more than superficially except when he was drugged. Oliver definitely has the high end feats to win to be honest.

The main thing is she blocked that one bullet but that was weird because she only blocked one bullet of the three that were shot at her and it wasn't clear how she avoided the other two. Also she struggled with Matt and Danny who clearly aren't that fast.

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Elektra was very inconsistent. She stomped Danny and tanked an IF punch in the first fight, killed 10 Hand ninjas in seconds, blocked a bullet and stomped Jessica, and was able to solo Matt, Jessica, and a weakened Luke at the same time. But then she also fought evenly with Matt and Danny, and Stick almost killed her.

Going with Elektra, but her inconsistency makes it hard to judge.

To those saying she was struggling with Matt, Matt himself pointed out that she was toying with him otherwise she would've finished him off.

Elektra

I'm sorry, but did no one else think Elektra being able to punch out LUKE CAGE and then not shatter Daredevil's skull every time she punched (much less kicked) was severe PIS? I'm not a big Arrow fan but consistency wise he should take this.

@heroup2112: Which scene are you referring to specifically?

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I'd have to go back and look, but if I recall correctly the one that made me go "REALLY?" was the last fight between all of them down in the cave. I THINK she double kicked Cage and he just went down.

Jobber Sky jobs like CW Barry and loses 5/5 times against prime focused Ollie

I thought you were referring to the scene where Luke was gassed and poisoned.

To be fair she didn't really solo them

• IF wasn't even able to fight back
• Luke was impaired from getting gassed and knocked out
• they never fought her all at the same time. First DD came, then Jessica. then Luke.

I get you, but I wasn't saying she solo'd as in defeated them I meant solo as in can fight them all. At least one right after the other.

• Good point on Iron Fist.
• Luke had been out of that state for quite some time but okay, I can see that as a plot device I suppose. However, I don't really see how that would effect his invulnerability. His being shot under the chin, being put into a coma and almost dying didn't even stop that.

ok, i thought you meant when she hit him before taking IF

Oh, no. Yeah, that could have just been from her transferring inertia and him already being halfway (or more) out of it from the gas. I'm talking about down in the big cave during the final fight, right before they went up the elevator. I would almost swear she was fighting all four of them but I could be wrong. I KNOW she took Luke down which just seems totally wrong.

Ollie. More skilled and way better gear.

if ollie had full knowledge of what he was dealing, I think he could pull of a win with full gears. black sky's speed is nothing special by arrow verse standards and as for her strength and durability iirc ollie has feats of hurting cyrus gold and brick, both of who had superhuman durability and survive hits from mirakuru users and damien darhk

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There is no starting distance and the area is unknown. That changes alot of factors especially for Ollie to hard to call with so little detail. If just hand to hand but cqc with weapons Ollie between his multiple arrows his bow he uses like a staff and the flechette he loves using he will cause major damage long to mid range an he has never truly has an issue firing arrows in close distances with relative ease.

Elektra.

Ollie 6-7/10

Elektra, her physicals are way better and their skill seems roughly even, but the latter isn't too big of a factor in this fight.

Oliver, stronger, more durable, better gear, Elektra takes speed though.

Black Sky took out Daredevil, Stick, Luke Cage, and Jessica Jones at the same time. She would stomp Green Arrow.

Arrow gets stomped. Black sky struggling with matt was because she was toying with him, although, I'm not counting her koing luke, it's pis, as for this fight, oliver gets stomped, elektra is faster, more skilled, stronger, vastly more durable.

People are wanking Elektra harder than I wanked Danny lmao.

Ollie wins handily 10/10, Matt stalemated her lmfao. Danny fought well against her for the majority of the fight, and she only beat Luke because he was already KO'd first, and Jessica cant fight. Matt ran at her like an idiot and got KO'd, he didn't even try and fight.

I don't get how people are overrating her this badly lmao.

@mrmonster: No, first she beat Stick, only AFTER Stick hesitated to kill her first.

Then Matt ran at her like a dumbass and got one hit KO'd, even though he only got kicked in the stomach, and then Jessica went down, and she can't fight. Then a dazed Luke, who was just unconscious, who also is nowhere near as skilled as her, ran at her, got her into a hold, and she jumped off the wall, and kicked his head to the ground.

She wouldn't be able to do any of that to Ollie.

don't know what's the fuss with blacksky but matt was able to hold his own against her in multiple occupation . stick was able to get an upper hand upon black sky and that white old lady and then he escaped. I know she has a lot of incostent showing but the show is full of it in that restaurant fight some jerk is able to hurt luke cage with his finger , black sky can somehow has strength to hurt jessica jones and luke but the whole fighting matt or Danny that super strength of her vanishes . she gets super durability while fighting iron fist and luke on second ep it vanishes.

from all I have seen I think she is above matt . Jessica . and that's all she even able to hurt luke is bull .

Even with all of that considered, it is still impressive. Yes, Stick and Daredevil let their emotions get in the way, but they are still great hand to hand fighters. And even though Jessica has very little hand to hand skill, she was still strong enough to hold her own against multiple Hand ninjas, so clearly beating her amounted to something. And even though Luke Cage was still reeling from the effects of Stick's knockout gas, that doesn't change the fact that it must have taken a very hard strike to knock him out. Iron Fist hit him repeatedly to no effect, and didn't even hurt him until he whipped out the iron fist.

Besides, if she could tag Iron Fist and Colleen Wing, I'm pretty sure she could tag Green Arrow.

Elektra never solo'ed the Defenders. She did fight them all at once in the finale, but she didn't win. Still an impressive showing for her

I'd back Elektra more often than not in a random encounter against Ollie. Better physicals, close enough in skill, fast enough to arrow time (and after the first few shots, Ollie goes for close quarters 9/10 times)

Some feats as reminders of what she can do

Matt never stalemated her (he admitted she could have killed him), the fact that he did so well should be to his credit, but it does show that someone like Ollie could at least compete with Elektra, so I wouldn't say this is quite a stomp the way some are making it out to be.

Elektra in a stomp