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#1  Edited By GokuIsStrongest

Current versions. Takes place on Sokyoku hill.

Natsu killed Chojiro

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Takes place on Sokyoku hill.

Natsu killed Chojiro

He then proceeds to kill Yamamoto.

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Fire Dragon's Purgatory Fist is far greater than any feat Yamamoto has. Not to mention Natsu is pretty much immune to non hax flames while Yama is not. Physical wise Natsu outclassed as well since he went blow to blow with Aldo who was leveling country sized areas with a simple stomp.

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@jdogg:

Fire Dragon's Purgatory Fist is far greater than any feat Yamamoto has.

Yama’s Bankai ignores durability bro. Natsu isn’t tanking anything.

Although if you’re talking pure DC, you’re right, but like 99% of cases DC doesn‘t matter only AP does.

Also he’s getting blitzed.

Not to mention Natsu is pretty much immune to non hax flames while Yama is not.

Yama’s Bankai isn‘t flames, it‘s his burning Reiatsu, which was hot enough to affect the whole planet (stated twice) and on panel cause a rainstorm as far as the eye can see when deactivated, melt ice in a country wide area and stop a Zanpakuto that controls the weather from working, as well as spontaneously combust plants indoors.

He’s also 15 million degrees.

Not a DC feat, but Natsu dies. He also gets blitzed, FT isn’t really that fast.

Physical wise Natsu outclassed as well since he went blow to blow with Aldo who was leveling country sized areas with a simple stomp.

Far weaker characters than Shikai Yamamoto, not Bankai Yamamoto crush country level attacks with zero effort (VL Ichigo).

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@ninjarizer: It doesn't. I don't even know where u got that tidbit from.

Zero feats still on that level in AP or DC.

Not really lol. FT has better speed feats.

It didn't affect the whole planet just the SS and all it did was slowly vape the moisture in the air. Be it heat or flames Natsu has a natural resistance to it.

15 million degrees cool. Natsu vaped the Wood Dragon God, a feat that would need far higher degrees in order to achieve.

He doesn't since he has no trouble with the heat of any flames or any form of heat in general. Only hax flames can bypassed his DS ability. FT is as fast if not faster than Bleach. They've never even been slow in the first place.

Only character to crush a country level attack Kenny who is far above Shikai Yama and even then FT has far weaker characters than Natsu who can casually do that as well.

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@ninjarizer: Yama isn't blitzing shit.

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Weaker character than natsu are light speed or above.

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@ninjarizer: Yama isn't blitzing shit.

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Weaker character than natsu are light speed or above.

No they aren't, Haku's statement was figurative, this was debunked the moment it came out:

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@lilgodperv: This shit was debunked the day after the release of the raw as hyperbole. Also weaker? Didn't Haku turned Natsu into a doll? LOL

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#10  Edited By Lilgodperv

@shirso: @high_pressure: Yeah Mirio ftogata a well known FT downplayer whose debunk was debunked in another thread.

Yeah somehow hax abilities scale to their power and stats nowadays huh.

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Yama erases this fodder

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@shirso: @high_pressure: Yeah Mirio ftogata a well known FT downplayer whose debunk was debunked in another thread.

Yeah somehow hax abilities scale to their power and stats nowadays huh.

You mean here, where the op themselves admitted they were wrong after debating with Joviolma on Japanese in a PM for hours?

https://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/gen-discussion-1/was-miriotaga-right-about-hakus-fairy-tail-stateme-2250732/?page=2

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@lilgodperv: Nothing too great about Haku speed last time I checked. An Espada tier character would react to that without a problem.

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@ninjarizer: Yama isn't blitzing shit.

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Weaker character than natsu are light speed or above.

Joviolma explained to me how Haku's statement is figurative a while back, it's based on a specific grammar rule that's usually used for non-literal statements.

Not like that panel would help though since if it was literal, it would contradict the other LS-FTL feats that weaker characters have displayed.

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Current Yammamoto?

Natsu wins since Yama Jiji Died

But seriously Natsu doesn't stand a chance Yamas Bankai isn't even fire that's his raw Riatsu Natsu gets one shot

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#17  Edited By Rogue_Prince

@jdogg

It didn't affect the whole planet just the SS

Man this is embarrassing. Stop commenting on verses you have no knowledge on, it makes you seem like a clown respectfully💀

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It didn't affect the whole planet just the SS

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@jdogg
It didn’t affect the whole planet just the SS

How do you debunk yourself in your own sentence

“It didn’t affect the whole planet, just the planet” LMFAO you’re a joke

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Yamamoto wins. Natsu gives him a tough fight though, let's not let recency bias over-inflate Yama's standing. Natsu, at his absolute peak would go 50-50 with the old man.

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It didn't affect the whole planet just the SS

Huh?

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#22  Edited By HaremPolice

@cosmicemperor: How much difficulty would Natsu give Yama before he one shots him with his bankai? I say mid diff, cause iirc Natsu was in the continental to muilt continental range based on arguments. (Correct me if I’m wrong)

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@harempolice: Decently high difficulty as Ryujin Jakka would power Natsu up to insane levels but as soon as Zanka no tachi comes out Natsu looses

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yamaji negs the verse

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@luciasta said:

yamaji negs the verse

i would not go that far however i will agree that Yamamoto does neg Natsu.

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Natsu blitzes and oneshots that classcanon.The gap in stats is way to high

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#28  Edited By GreyTheJiren

Put Yamamoto, Ichigo and Kenpachi together close enough and Natsu one shots all of them.

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Put Yamamoto, Ichigo and Kenpachi together close enough and Natsu one shots all of them.

Ain't no way you typed that, and actually thought it was good to click "post reply"...

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Rip lil bro.

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#31  Edited By Paxa

@estrelladeleon: Unless its EoS Bitchigo,hes right

Natsu is far above their Ballpark.2 Digit Exatons vs 1 Digit Petaton

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Yama vapes him

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#33  Edited By High_Pressure

Has Natsu learned how to dodge subsonic 2 secs lightning magic or he is still stuck below that? Battle takes place where? No ethernano in the environment = Natsu is human level, you know that? LOL

Nevermind, Sokyouku Hill. Human level powerless Natsu dies by falling from that hill

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@jdogg:

It doesn't. I don't even know where u got that tidbit from.

Used to have all the scans on hand but I’ve been gone a while. I’ll just say it:

Manga says it doesn’t burn, it just blows everything away without a trace. Guidebooks say it erases and that Tenchi Kajin erases in a flash.

It’s very clear. Not fire based, it just erases you.

Zero feats still on that level in AP or DC.

AP he’s multi-continental…that’s the amount of energy you need at a minimum to vape all the water on the eart, which he was clearly doing…

Not really lol. FT has better speed feats.

Post them and don’t post debunked Haku

It didn't affect the whole planet just the SS and all it did was slowly vape the moisture in the air. Be it heat or flames Natsu has a natural resistance to it.

Bro have you see episode 6 and 7? Not only did 3 characters confirm he was going to destroy the planet, they didn’t say Seireitei, they said Soul Society (Unohana and Yama himself), Toshiro said every drop of water in Soul Society is dissapearing, NOT Seireitei, the rainstorm in every single panel stretches FAR beyond the horizon attesting to this fact he affected the whole planet in such a short time.

Nothing contradicts him doing this. He’s a life wiper, and he contains multi-continental levels of reiatsu to do what he did. The tiles on the floor became hot enough to evaporate water BEFORE he showed West, come on dude

15 million degrees cool. Natsu vaped the Wood Dragon God, a feat that would need far higher degrees in order to achieve.

You know this isnt true on any practical level right?

He doesn't since he has no trouble with the heat of any flames or any form of heat in general. Only hax flames can bypassed his DS ability. FT is as fast if not faster than Bleach. They've never even been slow in the first place.

Surprise me. The fastest feat isn’t Erza and Deus Sama?

Only character to crush a country level attack Kenny who is far above Shikai Yama and even then FT has far weaker characters than Natsu who can casually do that as well.

Vasto Lorde Ichigo crushed Lanza which is country level…

Shikai Kenpachi is below Yama in power…Bankai Kenpachi is debatable bur likely still below…

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i still don't understand FT scaling but one thing is sure : natsu ain't eating his "flames" since they're not flames, just very hot reiatsu

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Current versions. Takes place on Sokyoku hill.

...wut? Current Yamamoto is dust. Natsu wins by default

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man fodder Tail stans are the undisputed cchampions when it comes to being the top clowns lmao let's look at the clownism

15 million degrees cool. Natsu vaped the Wood Dragon God, a feat that would need far higher degrees in order to achieve.

bruh drop aldoron in the sun and he'll get vaporized not even reaching the core, how's 15 mill not enough lmao

It didn't affect the whole planet just the SS

lmao just bruhh moment

Weaker character than natsu are light speed or above.

must of missed the debunks lol

Not like that panel would help though since if it was literal, it would contradict the other LS-FTL feats that weaker characters have displayed

what other LS-FTL feats?? Lmao whole stan community was fighting thick and hard for just this one "LS" feat to be true lol but there's others now?

OT: Yama one shots

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Just ignore the Narutonerd

Deus Sema is still far better as any Speedfeat in Clorox and Haku got never debunked

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@harempolice: Depending on which version of the bankai he uses tbh. If he uses the version where his overflowing reiatsu is life flames, it would be a power source for Natsu.

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#40  Edited By GreyTheJiren
@estrelladeleon said:
@greythejiren said:

Put Yamamoto, Ichigo and Kenpachi together close enough and Natsu one shots all of them.

Ain't no way you typed that, and actually thought it was good to click "post reply"...

I would've asked you to post a feat for those Bleach characters that is better than Natsu's feats but I know you won't.

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#41  Edited By EstrellaDeLeon

@greythejiren: Iunno, mayhaps Vasto Lorde Ichigo crushing a Lanza in the palm of his hand, at 50% power, said Lanza once detonation dwarfing a small country sized structure, using statements from Nelliel, a reliable source?

How about any Gran Rey Cero being capable of destroying Las Noches? Forgot Res Ulquiorra vaporizing half of the Las Noches' canopy with a Cero Oscuras?

I guess base Aizen isn't far above all of the Espada even in their Resurreccion?

How 'bout Dangai Ichigo swatting away 12 Fragors, each of them dwarfing Lanza in power, same Ichigo who also scales massively above the same Kenpachi who in a weaker form obliterated a meteor capable of destroying Seirietei, a country/large country sized structure, with Bankai being a 5/10x boost, eh?

Oh, each Fragor's potency would also scale above any sword swing from Kenpachi in his Bankai, because even Butterfly Aizen, is only inferior to Yhwach, Prime Soul King, EoS Ichigo and the EoS version of Aizen himself, crazy. Yamamoto himself evaporated all the moisture from the atmosphere and the power from the activation of his Bankai, threatened the Soul Society, confirmed after episode 6 in the canon anime, must've been mountain/island level at best for you, no?

Your hate boner for Bleach isn't going away anytime soon it seems.

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Does current Natsu scale to Selene's Moon feat? That thing was calced at planetary if I recall correctly.

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#43  Edited By Kalebsmarty156

Yamamoto erases the lizard

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#44  Edited By JDogg

@notthegodmadara: I just couldn't spell the Sereitei so I went with the next best thing. 💀

The planet was perfectly fine everytime he used his bankai.