current wolverine (with space-gem) vs new 52/rebirth aquaman

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@ecstaticgrace: With a trident as powerful as that, I guess both could put each other down in potentially one shot. However, due to Logan having comparable combat speed and teleportation on top of that I think he would land the first hit.

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Logan blitzed Loki who by feats is faster than Arthur. Logan stomps lol

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@ecstaticgrace: Loki is faster than New 52 Diana by a decent margin

I was joking when I said that, that was obviously done for comedy lol

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@ecstaticgrace:

Redirected Radio Waves

Caught Silver Surfer while he was flying around the Earth

Tracked Surfer when he was flying around

Consistently been able to dance around Thor

Dodged people who can react to lightspeeders

Dodges Mjolnir throws like nothing

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@ecstaticgrace: yeah I admitted it was probably done for comedy above lol

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Wolverine BFRs him

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@ecstaticgrace: Well how does Arthur have faster combat speed than Logan?

Yeah teleportation is what gives Wolverine the win here.

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@cryomodeste: He can, his claws will go through him like a hot knife through butter.

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@jay_z94: sigh....arthur has NEVER gotten a speed boost in knee high water dats not how his powers work it NEVER has & its pretty safe 2 say it NEVER WILL if u want proof dat namor & aquaman aren't equivalents take in2 consideration dat namor gets hella weak w/o water 4 only a few hours while arthur has literally bathed in lava both in & out of water my point of aquaman speed is simple u say curry has speed similar 2 spiderman so dat being said arthur still has da speed advantage seeing how even wen peter & logan sure logan could keep up but not actually be his equql in speed my point of aquaman getting stabbed in da kidney stomach ect is 2 illustrate dat aquaman can take more punishment from logans claws den u believe (btw wen has logan ever teleported behind some1 & insta kill id like 2 kno cuz if it hasn't ur argument is rather moot seeing how logan while he can be a jerk is a hero & would hesitate 2 stab some1 in da brain from behind) & while logan has good blunt force trauma he still has more problems wit it den say cutting resistance dis is proven by da fact da logan has been put down by namor in 1 punch even if it was a sucker punch it was still enough 2 make logans brain hit da interior of his skull successfully ko'ing him so dats all aquaman needs 2 due aswell & YES Arthur is certainly stronger den ben or colossus just look at dere respective feats thing & colossus CONSISTENTLY get wrecked by da marvel top tiers while Arthur on de othe hand is shown CONSISTENTLY putting up VERY respectable fights against dc top tiers beyond dat wen has thing or colossus stop a continent lvl attcks or move small tectonic plates? also as i said b4 neither of dem have comparable speed 2 logan infact dey r much slower which is not da case here seeing how curry & Logan speed r neck & neck. & while u r right dat logan has an advantage wit da space gem i have yet 2 see him us it in da way u describe not saying he can im just saing its VERY unlikely & out of character seeing how logan only goes 4 killing blows unless he has absolutely no choice on top of all dat logan would probably notice dat Arthur is a hero how u might ask? simple wolverine has years of combat experience so he certainly knows da difference between some1 coming at him wit non killing & subduing attacks rather den straight up death blows (Arthur also only kills if he has 2 asewll) btw dis is my last post on dis thread cuz im super busy so i'd like 2 say ur a very talented debater ??

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@jay_z94: sigh....arthur has NEVER gotten a speed boost in knee high water dats not how his powers work it NEVER has & its pretty safe 2 say it NEVER WILL if u want proof dat namor & aquaman aren't equivalents take in2 consideration dat namor gets hella weak w/o water 4 only a few hours while arthur has literally bathed in lava both in & out of water

I'll take your word for it. However, Arthur jumping at N-52 Diana who's busy trying to lasso him isn't really a significant combat speed feat, not one that puts him above Logan anyways.

my point of aquaman speed is simple u say curry has speed similar 2 spiderman so dat being said arthur still has da speed advantage seeing how even wen peter & logan sure logan could keep up but not actually be his equql in speed

I said his speed is similar to Spider-Man's, as is Wolverine's. I actually haven't seen any combat speed feats from Arthur that put him above Wolverine in combat speed. Teleportation on top of this is just overkill.

my point of aquaman getting stabbed in da kidney stomach ect is 2 illustrate dat aquaman can take more punishment from logans claws den u believe

Ok, but he is still susceptible to brain stabs, heart stabs, decapitation and dismemberment.

(btw wen has logan ever teleported behind some1 & insta kill id like 2 kno cuz if it hasn't ur argument is rather moot

Wolverine has insta-killed characters multiple times. He's only had one fight with the space gem, but in that fight he did actually teleport behind someone and stab them:

He can easily do this to Arthur but instead just hit something more vital.

seeing how logan while he can be a jerk is a hero & would hesitate 2 stab some1 in da brain from behind)

This is not a play fight, this is a fight to the death. Wolverine doesn't even know who Arthur is.

& while logan has good blunt force trauma he still has more problems wit it den say cutting resistance dis is proven by da fact da logan has been put down by namor in 1 punch even if it was a sucker punch it was still enough 2 make logans brain hit da interior of his skull successfully ko'ing him so dats all aquaman needs 2 due aswell

This is so wrong. No, it's not "proven" with one instance. A sucker punch has a much higher chance of KOing someone than if they were prepared for it, earlier in the fight Wolverine took a punch when he was prepared and he was fine:

Furthermore, Namor has fought Logan another two times where Wolverine was taking his hits just fine without being KOed:

Not to mention that Wolverine has taken multiple hits from Mid Tiers and High Tiers without being KOed, including Thing, Grey Hulk, Skaar, Ares, Hulk, Thor, Wonder Man, Red She Hulk, Thor's clone "Ragnarok, Wendigo, a mech that was ragdolling Hulk, the list goes on.

& YES Arthur is certainly stronger den ben or colossus just look at dere respective feats thing & colossus CONSISTENTLY get wrecked by da marvel top tiers while Arthur on de othe hand is shown CONSISTENTLY putting up VERY respectable fights against dc top tiers

How does this prove Aquaman strikes harder than Colossus or Thing? Both Thing and Colossus have affected Hulk with their punches. Wolverine has taken hits from High Tiers as well, definitely proving that he'll be able to take some hits from Aquaman.

beyond dat wen has thing or colossus stop a continent lvl attcks

When has Arthur?

or move small tectonic plates?

Lifting strength doesn't equal striking strength.

also as i said b4 neither of dem have comparable speed 2 logan infact dey r much slower which is not da case here seeing how curry & Logan speed r neck & neck.

This is true. But teleportation then puts Logan above Aquaman in that regard.

& while u r right dat logan has an advantage wit da space gem i have yet 2 see him us it in da way u describe not saying he can im just saing its VERY unlikely & out of character

Already shown you above Wolverine teleporting behind someone and stabbing them.

seeing how logan only goes 4 killing blows unless he has absolutely no choice

Well by default battles are to the death, so they are going to be trying to kill each other. Wolverine has stabbed Namor above, someone who he knows is a hero. Wolverine does kill people, that's in character for him.

on top of all dat logan would probably notice dat Arthur is a hero how u might ask? simple wolverine has years of combat experience so he certainly knows da difference between some1 coming at him wit non killing & subduing attacks rather den straight up death blows (Arthur also only kills if he has 2 asewll)

Show me Wolverine differentiating someone from a villain or hero by looking at their fighting style. It's a ridiculous argument anyways, both are fighting for the kill here. Wolverine will have no qualms about stabbing him, and one stab is all it will take to kill him if he gets him in the brain or the heart. The reason Wolverine doesn't kill heroes in comics is pretty obvious really, how will stories get written about them? This isn't comics, this is a hypothetical fight to the death on a battle forum. If morals were on and they were fighting only for the KO, then yes Aquaman would probably win in that circumstance.

btw dis is my last post on dis thread cuz im super busy so i'd like 2 say ur a very talented debater ??

That's a shame, I was enjoying this debate. Thanks for the kind words.

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@jay_z94: i kno but im in da middle of a move so its hectic anyways have a good 1 my boi hope i see u on da vine again ??

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@jay_z94: i kno but im in da middle of a move so its hectic anyways have a good 1 my boi hope i see u on da vine again ??

Fair enough. Good luck and nice chatting with you mate :)

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wolverine could beat him with or without the space grm

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Are morals off?

If morals off, he teleports with his blades already in position. GG.

If he can't put Aquaman down after the opening teleport though, I am going to go with Aquaman. So, that makes it a bit tricky. But if Wolverine does even a decent damage shot - I still might pick him.

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Logan erases him.

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Does anyone have any scans or feats of Logan with the space stone?

He should stomp here.

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Logan wins.

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