@byondeon: are you talking about in terms of feats or in terms of the story? I don't follow Thor haha
Current Thor vs The Thing
Whoever says the Thing is either trolling or suffers from mental illness. Thor UNINTENTIONALLY one shotted AMPED Thing https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-b169d56fe664a1b5668931989122a1af, yes it was unintentional because Thor flat out said he didn't want to hurt Ben https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-cedd1344f889bcedc4e331baceeaccd5. That wasn't even a throw from his hammer or a swing from it, that was just Thor summoning the hammer back, imagine if he threw the hammer at a non amped Thing... Oh, and the Thing while in that form bodied Red Hulk who constantly fights on par with and has beaten the green Hulk. Meaning Thor at this point could potentially just do that to the green Hulk.
@andreasver: that’s not current Thor...
@ecoblitz: isn't current Thor King Thor?? He wouldn't notice Ben
@ecoblitz: sorry bout that, I didn’t see the word “current” in the title. Non the less current Thor is OP, he proved more powerful than Captain Marvel with the reality stone, destroyed Malekith who at this point was amped to a point where he bodied a bunch of Thor’s including King Thor who is stronger than Odin who is multiversal+, survived a punch from Immortal Hulk, briefly contended with Merged Sentry (Sentry on his own ripped Ares in half who can consistently fight on par with Hercules who hurt World War Hulk pretty decently and had the ability to pummel him though he chose not to, and the Void on its own was bodying Loki Sorcerer Supreme and God of Magic Dr Strange), etc. Let this be a lesson to all: current Thor is only a “weak jobber” when you see him at first glance.
@andreasver: The insane levels of scaling, cherry picking and out of context nonsense you are spewing is actually giving me brain damage.
@underfire47: https://youtu.be/gkTb9GP9lVI
@underfire47: I can argue he is multiversal+ if I wanted to, though he’s more consistently universal to mid multiversal at most.
@andreasver: I can argue that Superman is multiversal doesn't mean it's true, you can argue just about any position you want.
@underfire47: that’s not what I meant...I meant it’s possible to make a valid argument that he is on that level...
@andreasver: No it's not possible to make a valid argument for him being on that level, Odin is pretty consistently on galaxy level(not counting his current depowered form), other than that it's not really possible to argue for him being universal let alone multi-versal.
Here are some Odin feats I can come up with off the top of my head
A weakened Odin (weakened because he was still thinking like a mortal) fought an amped Seth and their fight tears at the fabric of the Multiverse
Odin managed to contend with Doctor Doom who had the power of Galactus, The Cosmic Cube (which could rip the multiverse apart), The Ultimate Machine, as well as a plethora of other crap that I can’t remember
Odin fights Surtur and their battle shakes the world tree
Odin knocks out a Well Fed Galactus
Odin manipulates all the Electro-Magnetic Particles in the Universe to Imprison Surtur (who can destroy Yggdrasil)
Odin has no problem containing and Nullifying Surtur's Eternal Flame which was going to destroy Yggdrasil and the maybe infinite amount of universe sized realms it holds up
Odin recreates everything in the Universe
Odin matches Surtur's Eternal Flame (which can destroy the multiverse called Yggdrasil
Odin without the Odin-Force defeats Mephisto in Hell where he went blow for blow with Galatus which again scales him to all Galactus’ universal to multiversal stuff
Almost all those feats with him only being universal are usually ones he accomplished without any effort meaning universal power is FODDER to Odin.
So...
@andreasver: A weakened Odin (weakened because he was still thinking like a mortal) fought an amped Seth and their fight tears at the fabric of the Multiverse
Their fight didn't tear the fabric of the multiverse, their fight sent shocks across all planes of reality
the attacks themselves were able to destroy galaxies, which is significantly less than a multiverse.
Odin managed to contend with Doctor Doom who had the power of Galactus, The Cosmic Cube (which could rip the multiverse apart), The Ultimate Machine, as well as a plethora of other crap that I can’t remember
No he didn't, he attacked Doom from behind and hit him twice which did nothing
and as soon as Doom fired back at him he one-shot him.
Odin fights Surtur and their battle shakes the world tree
Which is not a multiversal or even a universal feat.
Odin knocks out a Well Fed Galactus
Very briefly as Galactus gets up right after without problems
While Odin exhausted himself so much he went into Odin sleep and i have no idea what this is suppose to prove since Galactus isn't multiversal or universal either.
Odin manipulates all the Electro-Magnetic Particles in the Universe to Imprison Surtur (who can destroy Yggdrasil)
Which again isn't multiversal or universal, controlling a small substance of the cosmos does not mean you are someone who can destroy the entire cosmos. No more than someone like Storm can control the storms, lightnings and wind across the planet doesn't mean she has any chance of blowing up the planet.
Odin has no problem containing and Nullifying Surtur's Eternal Flame which was going to destroy Yggdrasil and the maybe infinite amount of universe sized realms it holds up
The way the flame would possibly destroy all of the universes is because it's a fire that spreads and considering the outerworld is connecting to everything it means it can spread to everything.
This does again not make Odin universal or anything since the flame was stopped before it ever reached those levels, not to mention the argument is silly to begin with it's like saying someone throwing a cigar in a forest that ends up burning down the entire forest means that guy has the power to burn entire forests down willy nilly, that's not how that works.
Odin recreates everything in the Universe
No that isn't what happened, recreating dimensions is not recreating everything in the universe.
Odin matches Surtur's Eternal Flame (which can destroy the multiverse called Yggdrasil
We already went over this.
Odin without the Odin-Force defeats Mephisto in Hell where he went blow for blow with Galatus which again scales him to all Galactus’ universal to multiversal stuff
Again Galactus is not universal or multiversal either and you are citing a WHAT IF comic there, meaning a non-canon comic.
Almost all those feats with him only being universal are usually ones he accomplished without any effort meaning universal power is FODDER to Odin.
Not a single one of them is an actual universal feat.
Odin is not universal, let alone multiversal. During Dan Jurgens time he wasn't even more than planetary level lol, which admittedly is stupidly low for him but galaxy level is about the most Odin can cap out at in terms of actual feats of destruction and not relying on out of context scans, scaling, statements or non-canon comics.
So...
So... no.
Thor couldn't handle more than a single punch from Immortal Hulk whereas the Thing lasted more than an hour against that monstrosity and ultimately pulled a double-u.. so in other words, Thor gets clobbered into death.
Pretty much this. It was kinda stupid and a MASSIVE buff for Thing, but it's what happened. He went from getting destroyed by World War Hulk to going toe to toe with an even more powerful Hulk.
@wabubub: Immortal hulk is not more powerful than WWH, not by feats or even by the logic of the character. Immortal Hulk cannot get too angry otherwise he turns to Savage Hulk(and it was already implied Savage Hulk is stronger than Immortal Hulk), WWH on the other hand is the angriest Hulk has been at that point the only Hulk angrier and stronger than him is WBH.
@wabubub: Immortal hulk is not more powerful than WWH, not by feats or even by the logic of the character. Immortal Hulk cannot get too angry otherwise he turns to Savage Hulk(and it was already implied Savage Hulk is stronger than Immortal Hulk), WWH on the other hand is the angriest Hulk has been at that point the only Hulk angrier and stronger than him is WBH.
Where did it say Savage is stronger than Immortal? Cause that is some bullshit. Thor has went toe to toe with Savage a few times. Once without his hammer even. Pretty sure he'd know the difference.
Aaron Thor got embarrassed by Immortal Hulk who got defeated by Thing.
Also, didn't Aaron Thor got his head cut off by Ms Marvel, lol?
@wabubub: Immortal hulk is not more powerful than WWH, not by feats or even by the logic of the character. Immortal Hulk cannot get too angry otherwise he turns to Savage Hulk(and it was already implied Savage Hulk is stronger than Immortal Hulk), WWH on the other hand is the angriest Hulk has been at that point the only Hulk angrier and stronger than him is WBH.
Where did it say Savage is stronger than Immortal? Cause that is some bullshit. Thor has went toe to toe with Savage a few times. Once without his hammer even. Pretty sure he'd know the difference.
Here
To clarify this, i presume Immortal Hulk has a higher "average" strength than Savage Hulk, however due to the fact that he can't get TOO angry otherwise he transforms back to Savage Hulk which also means he can't get too strong, i presume that Savage Hulk has a higher anger/strength point than Immortal Hulk.
Aaron Thor got embarrassed by Immortal Hulk who got defeated by Thing.
Also, didn't Aaron Thor got his head cut off by Ms Marvel, lol?
No that never happened, it was revealed that Carol used a fake Thor head, you should really try reading comics one of these days.
Thing Above All wins.
Seeing how the thread was made before Thor's amps, Thing stands a very real chance of winning. Toss-up.
@midtierthor: I am surprised I thought you will say thing can win against current Thor too lol considering he is much more inconsistent now iirc
@rockon: he can win, but it's not like Thor can't win either. Between Mjolnir throws, ligthtning strikes and blasts he's got a pretty blatant range advantage. The question is, is he going to push that advantage. If not, he pushes the ball in Thing's court, with Ben's damage soak and willpower giving him the advantage. Thing's probably faster in close quarters too.
Thing, Stronger faster more agile.
"Current Thor" does not exist, his stats stayed the same and this circlejerk is annoying. Thor in a good fight.
Whats ya think of that??? Huhhh?
Thing, Stronger faster more agile.
"Current Thor" does not exist, his stats stayed the same and this circlejerk is annoying. Thor in a good fight.
Whats ya think of that??? Huhhh?
So what? Does Thing speed blitz him now?
@takenstew22: I miss Pre-MCU Thor.
If it is current OF Thor then probably him, though the fact that this same Thor was unsuccessfully wangling with Devil Hulk isn't the greatest.
Even Current Base Thor who doesn’t use his All-Father still wrecks.
No
@professorrespect: Thing isn’t beating Current Base Thor
@professorrespect: Thing isn’t beating Current Base Thor
Yeah he is
@professorrespect: Thing isn’t beating Current Base Thor
Yeah he is
No, hes not.
@professorrespect: Thing isn’t beating Current Base Thor
Yeah he is
No, hes not.
False
@professorrespect: Thing isn’t beating Current Base Thor
Yeah he is
Why exactly?
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