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#52  Edited By diydeath

Prime wins, dude shatters dimensional barriers with punches and is powerful enough that BWL wanted to negotiate instead of fight...and this is the same guy who fought Perpetua and rejected her attempt at negotiation.

By implications, BWL should be scared as even if he wins it might drain him of all his crisis energy.

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Prime gets beat in a good fight. The feats we got from the last couple of issues have context.

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@hulksmashtoaa: @professorrespect: I'm assuming that it started with him punching time trapper version of himself, which messed up his own reality/existence.

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Nolan wins

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I’ll take Prime

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That's literally the point of his character though.

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Prime stomp

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Is rebirth SBP more powerful than the previous version? I haven't read rebirth, just curious

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Prime easy

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Prime gets stomped.

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Prime gets stomped.

That is one of the more ludicrous things I have read here recently.

Prime fought a Multiversal entity in BWL, and beat him.

Knull died in a sun. Even before his link was broken, he was at best slightly above standard Celestials. That doesn't even put him at Universal.

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Prime one shots with retcon punch, even before he's in the dark multiverse.

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#67  Edited By IntentDebatThor

@Aristeaus: Prime got curbed by that "multiversal entity" and needed more time to recover from its attack than Wonder Woman did, failed to cause any significant damage to Earth despite attacking it with no holds barred and the assistance of 10 other people, and lost to Shazam & Black Adam duo, among other things (like getting overpowered by several Flashes and losing to Teen Titans). And his "fight" against Batmanhattan is most likely him tripping balls because it's contradicted by the actual ending of that storyline.

I'd take a guy who can rip Sentry in two, casually wreck a huge team of heroes with symbiotes' and overpower Odinforce Thor over Supertrash Prime any day of the week.

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@Aristeaus: Prime got curbed by that "multiversal entity" and needed more time to recover from its attack than Wonder Woman did, failed to cause any significant damage to Earth despite attacking it with no holds barred and the assistance of 10 other people, and lost to Shazam & Black Adam duo, among other things (like getting overpowered by several Flashes and losing to Teen Titans). And his "fight" against Batmanhattan is most likely him tripping balls because it's contradicted by the actual ending of that storyline.

I'd take a guy who can rip Sentry in two, casually wreck a huge team of heroes with symbiotes' and overpower Odinforce Thor over Supertrash Prime any day of the week.

Aside from the fact that Superprimetime just wrecked everything you said...

OP specifically states it is the Prime during his fight with BWL. Anything that happened prior to that is inadmissible here.

Finally, no, its not him "tripping balls". He also didn't get curbed by him. He beat the brakes off him and then retconned himself and the story. That was very well seen in the comic. Not sure how you missed that part.

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#70  Edited By ProfessorRespect

I'd probably say Knull.

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Definitely Knull.
Prime has Fear of the Dark.

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Knull has no Crisis Energy to steal, he wins

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Knull wins.

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#77  Edited By rajjarsalt

@superprimetime said:
@rajjarsalt said:

Knull has no Crisis Energy to steal, he wins

Prime never stole Crisis energy so what’s your point?

Knull isn’t even Barbatos level let alone Perpetua level who chained him up and definitely not TDK level who got physically assaulted by prime.

How could Prime not steal Crisis Energy? His hands were glowing with the same energy that was released from TDK's hands. The same energy coating the Evil worlds. Prime even mentioned that getting his world back would require TDK's power too. Prime being one of the Crisis Energy users is the cherry on top.

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Knull stomps

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Knull

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Prime stomps come on now knull was destroyed badly by light venom then melted in the sun come on now

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#84  Edited By ReverseThawne

*Knull has arrived on Earth and has covered the planet with Symbiotes blocking sunlight*

*Superboy gets pissed and finds Knull*

Superboy-Prime: You! gtfo this Planet!!!

Knull: Alright, just come over here you seem to resemble my grandson.

*Superboy falls for this and goes to Knull*

Superboy-Prime: Alright freak I am not your Grandson have a better look and quickly get out of Eart-aaaaaagh wtf you doing?

*Knull rips Superboy Prime's armor and proceeds to rip Superboy apart*

Knull: Well I have experience in ripping apart clowns with an "S" on their chest. And I even have experience in killing people encased in tough armors.

*Superboy starts flying away after realizing how great of a threat Knull is as he destroyed the Superboy-Prime armor*

*Knull decides enough playtime, flexes his mftl speeds goes ahead of Superboy. Then Knull suddenly holds him by the shoulders and-*

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*History repeats itself and Superboy-Prime ends up in 2 pieces, except

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#85  Edited By ReverseThawne
@Aristeaus said:
@intentdebatthor said:

Prime gets stomped.

That is one of the more ludicrous things I have read here recently.

Prime fought a Multiversal entity in BWL, and beat him.

Knull died in a sun. Even before his link was broken, he was at best slightly above standard Celestials. That doesn't even put him at Universal.

@Aristeaus: Knull was faced by his weakness Enigma force and was heavily weakened, and was 2v1ed by Silver Surfer and Venom both who at that time had the Enigma Force, Venom took the Silver Surfer's sword and Mjolnir then pulled a PPAP and made a battle ax (God-killing battle ax). It's like when Superman was weakened by kryptonite and got stomped by peak human. Knull was heavily weakened and with the Power level Venom was on at the time, even he can kill SBP with his God-Killing ax.

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#86  Edited By LordTwigo

Prime

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Knull.

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@lordtwigo said:

Prime

Incorrect!

Knull isn't all that haxy though, is he? I don't see why Prime shouldn't be able to take this, at least, not the one mentioned in the OP.

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#90  Edited By LeftHandRule

They are both overrated, but Knull's feat of ripping Sentry apart is better than whatever Prime has.

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#91  Edited By ProfessorRespect
@boutatakeanl said:
@professorrespect said:
@lordtwigo said:

Prime

Incorrect!

Knull isn't all that haxy though, is he? I don't see why Prime shouldn't be able to take this, at least, not the one mentioned in the OP.

Knull isn't a hax reliant guy, yeah. He's just got a lot of solid stats and symbote spam to rely on

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@boutatakeanl said:
@professorrespect said:
@lordtwigo said:

Prime

Incorrect!

Knull isn't all that haxy though, is he? I don't see why Prime shouldn't be able to take this, at least, not the one mentioned in the OP.

Knull isn't a hax reliant guy, yeah. He's just got a lot of solid stats and symbote spam to rely on

I can't see those stats matching a feat as impressive as SBP fighting TDK.

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@professorrespect said:
@boutatakeanl said:
@professorrespect said:
@lordtwigo said:

Prime

Incorrect!

Knull isn't all that haxy though, is he? I don't see why Prime shouldn't be able to take this, at least, not the one mentioned in the OP.

Knull isn't a hax reliant guy, yeah. He's just got a lot of solid stats and symbote spam to rely on

I can't see those stats matching a feat as impressive as SBP fighting TDK.

SBP was amped.

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Prime Stomps

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@boutatakeanl said:
@professorrespect said:
@boutatakeanl said:
@professorrespect said:
@lordtwigo said:

Prime

Incorrect!

Knull isn't all that haxy though, is he? I don't see why Prime shouldn't be able to take this, at least, not the one mentioned in the OP.

Knull isn't a hax reliant guy, yeah. He's just got a lot of solid stats and symbote spam to rely on

I can't see those stats matching a feat as impressive as SBP fighting TDK.

SBP was amped.

Be that as it may, it's his amped version that's being used in the fight. This version was universal+

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#97  Edited By ProfessorRespect

@professorrespect said:
@boutatakeanl said:
@professorrespect said:
@boutatakeanl said:
@professorrespect said:
@lordtwigo said:

Prime

Incorrect!

Knull isn't all that haxy though, is he? I don't see why Prime shouldn't be able to take this, at least, not the one mentioned in the OP.

Knull isn't a hax reliant guy, yeah. He's just got a lot of solid stats and symbote spam to rely on

I can't see those stats matching a feat as impressive as SBP fighting TDK.

SBP was amped.

Be that as it may, it's his amped version that's being used in the fight. This version was universal+

....not really? This is the Prime that beat up a weakened BWL that was already multiple degrees below "universal+"?

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@boutatakeanl said:
@professorrespect said:
@boutatakeanl said:
@professorrespect said:
@boutatakeanl said:
@professorrespect said:
@lordtwigo said:

Prime

Incorrect!

Knull isn't all that haxy though, is he? I don't see why Prime shouldn't be able to take this, at least, not the one mentioned in the OP.

Knull isn't a hax reliant guy, yeah. He's just got a lot of solid stats and symbote spam to rely on

I can't see those stats matching a feat as impressive as SBP fighting TDK.

SBP was amped.

Be that as it may, it's his amped version that's being used in the fight. This version was universal+

....not really? This is the Prime that beat up a weakened BWL that was already multiple degrees below "universal+"?

What suggests that BWL was weakened during the fight? I don't know the context behind the fight, so I assumed it was the same BWL that was matching Perpetua.

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@professorrespect said:
@boutatakeanl said:
@professorrespect said:
@boutatakeanl said:
@professorrespect said:
@boutatakeanl said:
@professorrespect said:
@lordtwigo said:

Prime

Incorrect!

Knull isn't all that haxy though, is he? I don't see why Prime shouldn't be able to take this, at least, not the one mentioned in the OP.

Knull isn't a hax reliant guy, yeah. He's just got a lot of solid stats and symbote spam to rely on

I can't see those stats matching a feat as impressive as SBP fighting TDK.

SBP was amped.

Be that as it may, it's his amped version that's being used in the fight. This version was universal+

....not really? This is the Prime that beat up a weakened BWL that was already multiple degrees below "universal+"?

What suggests that BWL was weakened during the fight? I don't know the context behind the fight, so I assumed it was the same BWL that was matching Perpetua.

BWL's fight with Perpetua drastically weakened his capabilities as he himself states when discussing his energies

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@professorrespect: Got it, thank you! Still though, shouldn't Prime be able to beat Knull after a good fight?