Poll Current Natsu vs Yonko Kaido and Big Mom (111 votes)
Location: Onigashima
Natsu he gets 3 days prep
Both sides have knowledge
Location: Onigashima
Natsu he gets 3 days prep
Both sides have knowledge
Natsu one shots at once if they try to gauge his power, otherwise they blitz and grind Natsu into pieces
@grandtoaa: And somehow the Yonkos scale to Suzaku?
@dimitri1220: Kaido blitzing Luffy who has better speed feats than Natsu and Erza, even with his Future sight, is more impressive than Suzaku blitzing Natsu and Erza.
The Supernovas are tanking hits from the Yonkos. Natsu tanked hits from Aldoron, who CV agree can stomp the One Piece verse.
Natsu folds the wannabe dragon and Pig Meme.
@grandtoaa: And Suzaku has better strength feats than Kaido
@dimitri1220: Not sure who that is, but what are these strength feats?
@expo7: @exauce: Tanking hits from Aldo in base after having fought 2 fights (3 if you count Wolfen) is enough to say that he can tank anything from Kaido, and I've already proven before that Natsu's internal durability is comparable to his external durability so ryou won't change much.
Edit: And Suzaku one shot Natsu
@dimitri1220: Aldoron was nerfed and wasn’t using his full power due to the seeds dying, correct me if I’m wrong. How is his internal durability comparable to his external? So you’re saying that he can tank large country attacks to his organs?
@expo7: He was only somewhat nerfed due to the seeds' deaths, he said it himself. Even after the seeds got defeated, he was still fighting Giant Gajeel who's country level with size alone, add in the dragon slayer multiplier and he's easily country + to large country. BoS Natsu easily tanked a bullet to the throat/tongue, and back then he was only max town level, if his internal durability was really so much less than his external durability, then that would've been the end of him. As he got more durable throughout the series, his internal durability will obviously scale too. How is Kaido large country level?
@dimitri1220: So him tanking a bullet to the throat/tongue is supposed to be comparable to town level durability. Kaido is large country because he scales above MF WB who was at least country + for tilting the sea and Saboady feeling the side effects
@dimitri1220: They can be scaled higher as the planet is bigger since it has over 20,000,000 islands and it took three days at the speed of light to reach an island at the other side of the world.
@dimitri1220: @expo7: I see, Thanks. But I believe that still below a young base Kaido one-shoting Oden.
@exauce: No problem
@exauce: to be fair oden was hit in the back of the head
@expo7: Him basically no selling a bullet to the tongue proves his internal durability wasn't fodder even when he was at max town level. I'm pretty sure WB's feat was only country level, and I doubt he scales that much higher than him when WB was considered one of, it not the strongest pirates despite his old age and sickness.
I don't know much about the Kuma scaling thing, but that sounds extremely flawed lol. I'm pretty the strawhats would instantly burn if they were traveling that fast, and for 3 days too? Light moves at 186,282 miles per second. There are 259,200 seconds in 3 days, and if you multiply that at the speed of light: 186,282 x 259,200 = 48,284,294,400 --> the number of miles they would have traveled, almost 50 billion miles. Yea um, I highly, highly, highly doubt that's the case.
@exauce: to be fair oden was hit in the back of the head
A hit is a hit.
@dimitri1220: I wouldn't want to scale them to LS cuz the distance will just be way too fat, but Kuma was protecting them during their entire fly so they won't get hurt or anything like that.
@exauce: How did he protect them? And yea the distance was absurd lmao
@dimitri1220: With his invisible Paw:
@dimitri1220: Even if you lowball the speed to hyoersonic you get 12,900,000 miles which is around half the Earth’s circumference so to say it is bigger than our Earth by a good amount is no exaggeration. Luffy was still in paradise after he got flung which means there is still the new world and the four seas that has not been travelled on yet. Amazon lily and Saboady are fairly close to each other on the map and are minimum 12,900,000 miles apart. Anyways Kuma protected them whilst they were travelling as shown when they reached their destination and Luffy points it out. Kaido and all the other Yonko definitely do scale way above an old sick WB. That title was given to him in his prime when Roger died and kept it since even though his strength decreased a lot. The marines wouldn’t know he was on life support which is why sengoku warned everyone of his power but as the fight went on it became apparent that his strength is the the same it was before which is why the marines and admirals had a chance to beat him. If it was any other Yonko, the fight would be wrapped up way more earlier than MF
You all need to stop with this LS travel with kuma paws in luffy travel.
Kuma didnt send luffy at LS, he can just do that with Air.
The main proof of that is you need like more than a week (if my memory does not fall) to travel from amazon lilly to shabondy, and no, marine battle ships arent LS.
@omnihater: I just assumed they circled the globe before landing
@jckobolt: Nope it ain't, new manga such as demon slayer just took over the world, that doesn't mean One-piece sales are falling, it just means Demon slayer was pretty damn great in his sales. And That was only in yearly Sales, in overall Sales One piece is the king. Oda isn't planning on writing another manga after One piece and Why would he copy Fairy tail? Fairy tail is copying him.
@jckobolt: Nope it ain't, new manga such as demon slayer just took over the world, that doesn't mean One-piece sales are falling, it just means Demon slayer was pretty damn great in his sales. And That was only in yearly Sales, in overall Sales One piece is the king. Oda isn't planning on writing another manga after One piece and Why would he copy Fairy tail? Fairy tail is copying him.
One Piece manga is dropping in quality, hence the sky falling sales. Japanese fandom hate Wano because is really despicable for their culture and the Tokugawa Era. Meanwhile Fairy Tail sales are reaching almost 3 million sold copies each volume and you know what? This happened right when Oda start screwing around the origins of every japanese person on the world, mixing gag pirates with disgusting insults against Shogun and Tokugawa genealogy.
Inform yourself. Oda copied Mashima. Not only the characters are the same with a different name, but also the situations. Oda even called Luffy 'Lucy' during Dressrosa because he was afraid about Mashima's success and he tried to get the same amount of love Fairy Tail was getting.
One Piece manga is dropping in quality, hence the sky falling sales. Japanese fandom hate Wano because is really despicable for their culture and the Tokugawa Era.
No evidence of that, just assumption. I love wano, with Odin flashback, first fight with Kaido, Zoro with enma, etc...Not to mention Wano sold more than 10 million copies since 2020, so it doing fine.
Meanwhile Fairy Tail sales are reaching almost 3 million sold copies each volume and you know what? This happened right when Oda start screwing around the origins of every japanese person on the world, mixing gag pirates with disgusting insults against Shogun and Tokugawa genealogy.
So? One-piece newest chapter sold 1.5 million in the first week in Japan. No idea what you talking about Lol.
Inform yourself. Oda copied Mashima. Not only the characters are the same with a different name, but also the situations. Oda even called Luffy 'Lucy' during Dressrosa because he was afraid about Mashima's success and he tried to get the same amount of love Fairy Tail was getting.
The fuck? Elfen lied main character's name is Lucy is Mashima copying Elfen lied because he was afraid about Lynn Okamoto's success? Lol. One piece is the biggest Manga ever, why would be afraid of Mashima's success? he literally has bigger fish to worry about like My hero Academia, demon slayer, and Kimetsu no Yaiba to worry about.
@exauce: U do realize that dude is a troll right?
No evidence of that, just assumption. I love wano, with Odin flashback, first fight with Kaido, Zoro with enma, etc...Not to mention Wano sold more than 10 million copies in 2020, so it doing fine.
Because you are a western fanboy. Go search some Japanese comments about Wano overall and you'll see Asian people hate it, even Chinese people hate Wano, and China loves everything that insults Japan. Mind you.
So? One-piece newest chapter sold 1.5 million in the first week in Japan. No idea what you talking about Lol.
Sorry I laughed. So One Piece is selling far worse than the worst Fairy Tail volume did in only 3 days of Shoseki ranking? Laughable. For reference, Fairy Tail is close to outsell that horsecrap called Naruto, give it 5 months and it will outsell Dragon Ball too. At the end of the year One Piece will eat the dirt of the 2nd Position.
The fuck? Elfen lied main character's name is Lucy is Mashima copying Elfen lied because he was afraid about Lynn Okamoto's success? Lol. One piece is the biggest Manga ever, why would be afraid of Mashima's success? he literally has bigger fish like My hero Academia, demon slayer, and Kimetsu no Yaiba to worry about.
Because he said it maybe? During a 2016 interview with Ayasaki Honda, CEO of SCJ, Oda got submerged by questions about why his characters and story arcs were exactly the same as Fairy Tail ones. Like a coward he didn't reply to them. The only thing he said is he named Luffy 'Lucy' because he felt afraid about Mashima's incredible success.
@exauce: U do realize that dude is a troll right?
Ah, I see.
@exauce: U do realize that dude is a troll right?
Usually if someone calls someone else 'troll' is because the former is a troll.
- Natsu has slayed stronger Dragons than Kaido ( Animus, Acnologia and Aldoron )
- Big Mom is even weaker than Kaido so she gets stomped too
Natsu just has better feats than the Yonko
He blitzes and vapes them
@tyki_mikk25: fodder kaido gets fodder stomped
@tyki_mikk25: fodder kaido gets fodder stomped
With what?Getting blitzed by a fodder like Suzaku?
@tyki_mikk25: saying Suzaku is a fodder shows your bias low end FT hater
@animefreak1: Current Natsu is different from the Natsu that beat Acnologia
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