Conditions:
- Natsu after he eats Ignia's flame.
- Natsu is bloodlusted.
- Random encounter-no knowledge
- starting from 100 ft away.
- All feats.
Conditions:
Still Natsu
@woodward: @ultimatesage: @gilateen: How Natsu survive even dodge a cero ? Or survive Soul Crush ? How Natsu supposed to even scratch VL Ichigo , even weaker version of VL grabbed and no selled a lanza in hand ?
@woodward: @ultimatesage: @gilateen: How Natsu survive even dodge a cero ?
By being his equal in speed 0.o, this ichigo is barely in the low-mid quad mach. Later chapters mach 500 is a big thing
Or survive Soul Crush ?
oh that awesome argument?
How Natsu supposed to even scratch VL Ichigo ,
By having stronger attacks than his durability smh. This ichigo is mountain level in durability, Natsu is packing multi-mountain lv small island lv power gg
even weaker version of VL grabbed and no selled a lanza in hand ?
Ah large city lv mountain lv Lanza? Ok, nice feat...not nice enough tho
@mrviking: Natsu scales to Erza's sub-relativistic feat of outspeeding Deus Sema. This Ichigo is at best Mach 1000, which means he gets blitzed like a statue and Natsu would circle around him with ease.
Soul Crush works on fodders.
Tanking Lanza doesn't mean anything. Natsu's attacks are fire-based; we've seen Fragor completely burn Ichigo's arm and made it useless. Natsu would vaporize him.
@woodward: @ultimatesage: @gilateen: How Natsu survive even dodge a cero ?
He easily counters it with his own ranged attack.
Or survive Soul Crush ?
Nice argument? If that the case then Natsu vapes him by being near him GG
How Natsu supposed to even scratch VL Ichigo?
By beating him with Multi Mountain attacks.
Even weaker version of VL grabbed and no selled a lanza in hand ?
Lol And? Lanza is Mountain level and that isn’t doing much.
Natsu will literally babyshake VL Ichigo. He was mountain+ in striking arguably way before 100 Years.
@gilateen: lol , Lanza is island+ to small country. Also , even if you lowball it,even this lv of lowball wont help Natsu , VL litteraly grabbed it and broke and no sell it in hand , while wasnt even at full power , someone who litteraly no sell , grab and no sell a mountain lv attack as you said , woudnt really be in problem with multi mountain attacks. Tho , wanna see the scaling for Lanza being Mountain lv and from where you get multi mountain attacks from Natsu. I am from mobile right now , but i'll post a little scan of how fast is a gran ray cero(not even VL lv) , and why natsu woudnt be able to dodge even that.
@gilateen: lol , Lanza is island+ to small country.
Nice Headcanon, still not Enough to beat current natsu. Water God Dragon>>>>>>>VL Ichigo and Natsu defeated the WDG.
Also , even if you lowball it,
your the one that’s lowballing like you always do.
even this lv of lowball wont help Natsu.
Current Natsu still beats VL Ichigo, deal with it.
VL litteraly grabbed it and broke and no sell it in hand
So What? Still not enough to beat Current Natsu(who beat the WDG and has multi mountain to small island level attacks).
while wasnt even at full power
Even before time skip, Natsu’s Attacks were mountain level, even in Base.
someone who litteraly no sell
Good for him, still not enough to beat Current Natsu
, grab and no sell a mountain lv attack as you said.
Good for him, Natsu has defeated mountain level characters as well, even the WDG who is island and above, so that is irreverent.
wouldn’t really be in problem with multi mountain attacks. Tho , wanna see the scaling for Lanza being Mountain lv and from where you get multi mountain attacks from Natsu.
Wanna see feats of Lanza even being country level.
I am from mobile right now , but i'll post a little scan of how fast is a gran ray cero(not even VL lv) , and why natsu woudnt be able to dodge even that.
I don’t care TBH, you act like natsu is just gonna stand there and tank it and he would obviously counter it with his own attack.
@gilateen: how strong is natsu
Hmmmm Probably natsu from what I've seen from CaVs
Hellverse Ichigo would one-shot an army of Natsus though
Natsu destroys ichigo even his higher versions.Natsu is easily island plus level. Heck he casually destroyed an entire mountain range in the last gif. And in the current arc Natsu's strength has significantly increased. He even destroyed a city which was a size of a small island easily with a single attack
@lichvanastrea: he might not be able to destroy the final arc ichigo but all other below that are weaker than Natsu
@kingxix: Dangai Ichigo is not weaker than Natsu.
@lichvanastrea: yeah he is not weaker than pre 100 years quest natsu. But current Natsu is too strong. In the latest chapter he destroys a island sized city with a single attack easily. I don't think dangai ichigo can destroy an island easily.
@lichvanastrea: yeah he is not weaker than pre 100 years quest natsu. But current Natsu is too strong. In the latest chapter he destroys a island size of a city with a single attack easily. I don't think dangai ichigo can destroy an island easily.
He didn't destroy that city lmao, he cratered it.....iirc his friends where literally in that same city and they did not feel a thing.
@ultimatesage: dude you are completely wrong. There are four cities. And they are all on different cities.
@ultimatesage: dude you are completely wrong. There are four cities. And they are all on different cities.
Which is why I said (iirc)...which I didn't lol, I re-checked it and everyone else was on the right shoulder city while Natsu was on the backside city, so yeah, my fault. But my point still stands, Natsu didn't destroy that city, he cratered it, you can still see some of the building still standing, and the attack he used wasn't a AOE type in the first place (you can see when we're given a whole view, that attack only covered a little bit of that city).
@ultimatesage: Still that attack is easily island level. On one of the panels we can easily see the blast moving upwards before the effect took place.
@gilateen: lol , Lanza is island+ to small country.
Nice Headcanon, still not Enough to beat current natsu. Water God Dragon>>>>>>>VL Ichigo and Natsu defeated the WDG.
Also , even if you lowball it,
your the one that’s lowballing like you always do.
even this lv of lowball wont help Natsu.
Current Natsu still beats VL Ichigo, deal with it.
VL litteraly grabbed it and broke and no sell it in hand
So What? Still not enough to beat Current Natsu(who beat the WDG and has multi mountain to small island level attacks).
while wasnt even at full power
Even before time skip, Natsu’s Attacks were mountain level, even in Base.
someone who litteraly no sell
Good for him, still not enough to beat Current Natsu
, grab and no sell a mountain lv attack as you said.
Good for him, Natsu has defeated mountain level characters as well, even the WDG who is island and above, so that is irreverent.
wouldn’t really be in problem with multi mountain attacks. Tho , wanna see the scaling for Lanza being Mountain lv and from where you get multi mountain attacks from Natsu.
Wanna see feats of Lanza even being country level.
I am from mobile right now , but i'll post a little scan of how fast is a gran ray cero(not even VL lv) , and why natsu woudnt be able to dodge even that.
I don’t care TBH, you act like natsu is just gonna stand there and tank it and he would obviously counter it with his own attack.
Scaling puts Lanza at island+ - small country lv.
Gran Ray cero litteraly disorted space with its speed.
Ichigo reacted to it before even facing Ulqiorra.
Banaki Ichigo reacted to Kaminishi no Yari
"Kamishini no Yari, Gin claims that his sword can extend itself up to 13 km (8.1 miles) at 500 times the speed of sound: exactly 171,500 meters (106.6 miles) per second in order to arrive at its full length in under 0.08 seconds"
Chad(begining of HM arc) was hill lv
Chad then fight privaron espada Gantenbainne , who was beating chad until Chad awakend his powers , Chad at full power casually beat Gantenbainne , after Chad beat Gantenbainne Tesla , fracción of Nnotria , showes up and no sell chad full powered attack while in base , ressurection tesla got one shoted by a not even serious base Kenpachi who was weaker than usually , Nnotria in base was weaker than Kenpachi , ressurection Nnotria was able to have the upperhand to until Kenpachi used kendo.
Hill lv <= Gantenbainne(Base) ->(10x) Gantenbainne(Ressurection) < Chad(awakend powers) <(litteraly no selled a full powered attack) Tesla(Base) <(10x) Tesla(Ressurection) <(got one shoted) Kenpachi(with eye patch on , casual) = Nnotria(Base) <(10x) Nnotria(Ressurection) < Kenpachi(Eye patch off , using kendo)
Nnotria(Ressurection) < Ulqiorra(Base) < Ichigo(Hollow mask , Bankai) <(10x Ulqiorra(Base)) Ulqiorra(Ressurection 1) <(10x) Ulqiorra(Ressurection 2) < Vasto Lorde Ichigo(50% Reatsu)
Can you post feats , scaling , for Natsu ?
Natsu destroys ichigo even his higher versions.Natsu is easily island plus level. Heck he casually destroyed an entire mountain range in the last gif. And in the current arc Natsu's strength has significantly increased. He even destroyed a city which was a size of a small island easily with a single attack
Where is that last gif from?
@deathhero61: It's from the last two episodes of the 2014 season I believe.
Ichigo. I can't believe that people are using island level feats (the legitimacy of which are shaky at best) to say that Natsu defeats this Ichigo.
@gilateen: lol , Lanza is island+ to small country.
Nice Headcanon, still not Enough to beat current natsu. Water God Dragon>>>>>>>VL Ichigo and Natsu defeated the WDG.
Also , even if you lowball it,
your the one that’s lowballing like you always do.
even this lv of lowball wont help Natsu.
Current Natsu still beats VL Ichigo, deal with it.
VL litteraly grabbed it and broke and no sell it in hand
So What? Still not enough to beat Current Natsu(who beat the WDG and has multi mountain to small island level attacks).
while wasnt even at full power
Even before time skip, Natsu’s Attacks were mountain level, even in Base.
someone who litteraly no sell
Good for him, still not enough to beat Current Natsu
, grab and no sell a mountain lv attack as you said.
Good for him, Natsu has defeated mountain level characters as well, even the WDG who is island and above, so that is irreverent.
wouldn’t really be in problem with multi mountain attacks. Tho , wanna see the scaling for Lanza being Mountain lv and from where you get multi mountain attacks from Natsu.
Wanna see feats of Lanza even being country level.
I am from mobile right now , but i'll post a little scan of how fast is a gran ray cero(not even VL lv) , and why natsu woudnt be able to dodge even that.
I don’t care TBH, you act like natsu is just gonna stand there and tank it and he would obviously counter it with his own attack.
Scaling puts Lanza at island+ - small country lv.
Show proof that’s it’s at that level, Your just making up stuff
Gran Ray cero litteraly disorted space with its speed.
Whats that suppose to mean?
Ichigo reacted to it before even facing Ulqiorra.
Cool, don’t care.
Banaki Ichigo reacted to Kaminishi no Yari
"Kamishini no Yari, Gin claims that his sword can extend itself up to 13 km (8.1 miles) at 500 times the speed of sound: exactly 171,500 meters (106.6 miles) per second in order to arrive at its full length in under 0.08 seconds"
Good for him, still not enough.
Chad(begining of HM arc) was hill lv
So What?
Chad then fight privaron espada Gantenbainne , who was beating chad until Chad awakend his powers , Chad at full power casually beat Gantenbainne , after Chad beat Gantenbainne Tesla , fracción of Nnotria , showes up and no sell chad full powered attack while in base , ressurection tesla got one shoted by a not even serious base Kenpachi who was weaker than usually , Nnotria in base was weaker than Kenpachi , ressurection Nnotria was able to have the upperhand to until Kenpachi used kendo.
Not Convinced
Hill lv <= Gantenbainne(Base) ->(10x) Gantenbainne(Ressurection) < Chad(awakend powers) <(litteraly no selled a full powered attack) Tesla(Base) <(10x) Tesla(Ressurection) <(got one shoted) Kenpachi(with eye patch on , casual) = Nnotria(Base) <(10x) Nnotria(Ressurection) < Kenpachi(Eye patch off , using kendo)
Current Natsu Beats HM arc versions.
Nnotria(Ressurection) < Ulqiorra(Base) < Ichigo(Hollow mask , Bankai) <(10x Ulqiorra(Base)) Ulqiorra(Ressurection 1) <(10x) Ulqiorra(Ressurection 2) < Vasto Lorde Ichigo(50% Reatsu)
There is still no proof that Lanza is country level, nor can you prove that it is, either show or Im out.
Can you post feats , scaling , for Natsu ?
Not until you show me proof that Lanza is Country level.
Downplaying is what your good at.
This is your last chance.
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