Current Namor vs Gladiator

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#1 Posted by deactivated-5d07416730d08 (2261 posts) - - Show Bio
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Battle Stipulations

  • Fighters are in character.
  • Random Encounter, No Prep time, Basic Knowledge.
  • Win by death & knock out.
  • Standart 616 versions.
  • Gladiator is confident , Namor has trident.
  • Starting 30 metre apart.
  • They're fighting on indestructible planet full of beach

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#2 Posted by ByondEon (1733 posts) - - Show Bio

Gladiator. Namor got beaten to the brink of death by Hyperion.

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#3 Posted by Toratorn (8070 posts) - - Show Bio

Namor stomps. Doesn't need to be amped Namor either.

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#4 Edited by HellionVulcan (7298 posts) - - Show Bio

Gladiator optic blasts him to death since we saw what Hyperion's optic blast did and Gladiators is far more powerful not to mention the massive combat speed difference.

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#5 Edited by Toratorn (8070 posts) - - Show Bio

@hellionvulcan: Hyperion one-shot an alternate Thor that was stalemating 616 Thor with his heat vision, and that was when he was morals on (as opposed to when he decapitated Namor).

On the other hand, Gladiator's heat vision could at best only hurt Thor lvl characters (Foster, BRB), and he failed to even one-shot Rom or Ronan's Universal Weapon with it (something that Human Torch did casually). Gladiator's heat vision is shit, just like Gladiator himself.

Oh, and that's not mentioning that Hyperion did that to Namor before the latter for upgraded.

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#6 Posted by HellionVulcan (7298 posts) - - Show Bio

@toratorn said:

@hellionvulcan: Hyperion one-shot an alternate Thor that was stalemating 616 Thor with his heat vision, and that was when he was morals on (as opposed to when he decapitated Namor).

Gladiator's heat vision could at best only hurt Thor lvl characters (Foster, BRB), and he failed to even one-shot Rom or Ronan's Universal Weapon with it (something that Human Torch did casually). Gladiator's heat vision is shit, just like Gladiator himself.

Oh, and that's not mentioning that Hyperion did that to Namor before he got amped.

Gladiator's optic blast is meh besides when it drew with Tyrant's and with Phoenix Cyke etc as his optic blast > Hyperion's by consistent feats so deal with it, Current Namor isn't above Beta ray's durability and to think Namor stands a chance to tank Gladiator's optic blast is hilarious. Rom, how far back are you willing to going to try and low ball ? and Gladiator wasn't in control during the Ronan encounter as it was Magus so it wasn't Gladiator per-say in that moment.

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#7 Posted by DrakonRex (43 posts) - - Show Bio

Gladiator is a planet buster.

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#8 Posted by ByondEon (1733 posts) - - Show Bio

@drakonrex: Proof of this? And no, the one where he punched a dead planet isn't really a planet busting feat...

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#9 Posted by HellionVulcan (7298 posts) - - Show Bio

@byondeon said:

@drakonrex: Proof of this? And no, the one where he punched a dead planet isn't really a planet busting feat...

Planets get harder after they have died though and he broke apart the largest planet on panel with a few strikes as you can't take the feat away due to your feels.

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#10 Edited by Toratorn (8070 posts) - - Show Bio

@hellionvulcan: yes, Tyrant's blast that he got overpowered by. And Phoenix Five Cyclops? The same Phonix Five Cyclops who could barely hurt Rulk with his blasts? Very impressive.

Lel, current Namor is 100% above BRB, seeing how casually he manhandled Thor. Inb4 you shout that "current Thor is weak", I shall remind you that unworthy Thor almost killed BRB not long ago. It's also funny how you bring BRB up as if Gladiator beating him is consistent. News flash: it's not.

Yes, he wasn't in control when Magus possessed him. He was brainwashed and bloodlusted. And still couldn't do shit to UW.

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#11 Posted by HellionVulcan (7298 posts) - - Show Bio

@toratorn said:

@hellionvulcan: yes, Tyrant's blast that he got overpowered by. And Phoenix Five Cyclops? The same Phonix Five Cyclops who could barely hurt Rulk with his blasts? Very impressive.

Lel, current Namor is 100% above BRB, seeing how casually he manhandled Thor. Inb4 you shout that "current Thor is weak", I shall remind you that unworthy Thor almost killed BRB not long ago. It's also funny how you bring BRB up as if Gladiator beating him is consistent. News flash: it's not.

Yes, he wasn't in control when Magus possessed him. He was brainwashed and bloodlusted. And still couldn't do shit to UW.

Gladiator drew with Tyrant as no other herald ever did the same with Tyrant, The same Phoenix five that broke Rulk's arm taking him out of the entire fight while 2/3 had to beat up Gladiator, Namor didn't beat current Thor plus Thor beat him off panel in an earlier Thor comic (weird how no one complained about that off panel win/loss) and no one said anything about beating Bill but harming him which Gladiator can consistently.

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#12 Edited by deactivated-5d07416730d08 (2261 posts) - - Show Bio
@byondeon said:

@drakonrex: Proof of this? And no, the one where he punched a dead planet isn't really a planet busting feat...

Gladiator has showcased planet level strength in 3 different occasions.

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#13 Edited by Toratorn (8070 posts) - - Show Bio

@hellionvulcan said:

Gladiator drew with Tyrant as no other herald ever did the same with Tyrant,

Ah yes, because Gladiator outperforming heralds is supposed to be consistent, when he can't even manage to be a consistent high tier.

The same Phoenix five that broke Rulk's arm taking him out of the entire fight while 2/3 had to beat up Gladiator,

Nice goalpost shifting. This is the guy who Gladiator supposedly stalemated with his blasts:

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Aka, the guy who couldn't bring Rulk down with repeated blasts and help from Magneto and Magik

Namor wrenching Rulk's arm off is completely irrelevant here. Especially considering that Namor was going insane when he was facing Avengers and was in process of murdering an entire nation (so wasn't holding back), while he was completely in control when he and Colossus were casually trashing Gladiator and weren't even trying to kill him.

Namor didn't beat current Thor

Good thing I didn't say he did? Learn to read.

he manhandled Thor.

plus Thor beat him off panel in an earlier Thor comic (weird how no one complained about that off panel win/loss)

Not only there's 0 information on how the fight ended (they could have just settled their differences off-panel, for one) and no indication Thor actually beat him, but it was also plainly said by Thor himself that Namor was stronger than he was in that fight. Way to ignore the context.

and no one said anything about beating Bill but harming him which Gladiator can consistently.

He can't even consistently harm high tiers.

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#14 Posted by ByondEon (1733 posts) - - Show Bio

@hellionvulcan: The planet of undefined size, but doesn't look to be much bigger than Pluto.

It's still impressive. But yea, link to source that planets get's harder and get's harder to destroy while they have "died"

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#15 Posted by deactivated-5d07416730d08 (2261 posts) - - Show Bio

@toratorn:

Can you post every single ''anti-feat'' Gladiator has?

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#16 Posted by Yamiyodare (2128 posts) - - Show Bio

Gladiator wins.

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#17 Posted by Toratorn (8070 posts) - - Show Bio

@aqualion0: no, because I can't be arsed to go through all of his appearances once again.

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#18 Posted by The_Red_Devil (5083 posts) - - Show Bio

Gladiator should win , the Avengers roster Namor beat was pretty weak.

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#19 Posted by TheHercules (1053 posts) - - Show Bio

Gladiator wins, Namor is not that good.

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#20 Edited by Helloman (30115 posts) - - Show Bio

Stalemate.

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#21 Posted by HellionVulcan (7298 posts) - - Show Bio

@toratorn: Ah yes, because Gladiator outperforming heralds is supposed to be consistent, when he can't even manage to be a consistent high tier.

Complain to Marvel not to me.

Nice goalpost shifting. This is the guy who Gladiator supposedly stalemated with his blasts:

Zero goal-shifting and it's nice to see Phoenix Cyke's optic blast made Rulk bleed (even Magneto trashed him) while Gladiator could stop it and over power it with his own.

Not only there's 0 information on how the fight ended (they could have just settled their differences off-panel, for one) and no indication Thor actually beat him, but it was also plainly said by Thor himself that Namor was stronger than he was in that fight. Way to ignore the context.

Besides Namor not being around and Thor got what he came for and when has Namor settled on anything with Thor, who's goal shifting right now lol.

He can't even consistently harm high tiers.

Like who ?

@byondeon said:

@hellionvulcan: The planet of undefined size, but doesn't look to be much bigger than Pluto.

It's still impressive. But yea, link to source that planets get's harder and get's harder to destroy while they have "died"

This is the main link since it's good as a dead planet survives a supernova https://www.newscientist.com/article/2198693-a-dead-planet-is-orbiting-a-dead-sun-in-a-distant-dead-solar-system/, The planet Gladiator lands on is massive far larger than all the other planets and no way it's as small as Pluto.

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#22 Posted by Batvibe12 (5852 posts) - - Show Bio

Glads.

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#23 Posted by Ashrym (3178 posts) - - Show Bio

Gladiator.