Yes I'm fully aware that this has been done to death but this week Luffy does something crazy in the manga.
It's looking like Luffy mid diffs Natsu currently. Thoughts?
After chapter 1010 Luffy folds Natsu.
-Takes a named haki-imbued(haki imbued attacks negate his blunt force immunity)
attack from Hybrid Kaido to the face and was only winded(gets back up almost immediately). Nothing Natsu can throw at Luffy is doing any severe damage to him.
-Can now do damage to Hybrid Kaido and stopped an attack from him with his fricking leg(he is using conquerors haki amped attacks). If internal damage attacks wasn't enough to put down Natsu before(according to some) then raw attack power that can harm country+ tiers is more than enough.
-Even before chapter 1010 Natsu has always been a statue to Luffy.
^shocker that's all base Luffy.
I'll just keep my comments in spoiler block for now since the chapter hasn't come out yet.
Spoilers are hype as shit, Luffy 1v1 Kaido and Zoro finally confirmed to have Conqueror's haki. I still don't see how Luffy is beating Natsu as it took him and 13 others to deal decent damage to Kaido. Don't get me wrong, these are great feats, but this isn't enough to help him beat Natsu since he would manhandle Kaido. His fight against Aldo is enough to prove this. He also has good enough internal durability to tank Ryou.
The new chapter spoilers really doesn't change much
Natsu still one shots since he has such a large advantage in AP/DC and Luffy severely lacks any good durability feats to say he won't get vaped. Yea, you can say he has a speed advantage, but that can only get you so far when you lack the power to significantly damage your opponent and they pack AoE that can cover kilometers.
Even after Luffy can do damage to and completely block/stop attacks from country+ tiers with supreme haki coating, can bypass durability to induce internal damage(has worked on people with country level external durability) with Ryou and is far faster than Natsu to the point where Natsu is literally a statue to him he still loses to Natsu(everything above is Luffy in base form)? Never change CV, never change...
@jdogg: Natsu was getting statued before the seeds started losing. Natsu is not stronger than full power aldoron.
Luffy in character, Natsu bloodlusted
What this unbiased good sir said.
@edgelord91: Aldo stated he was only barely weakened and DF Natsu blew apart Aldo's entire body ergo he is far stronger than a casual Aldo. Casual Aldo >>>>> anything OP.
@jdogg: that still proves Natsu isn’t as strong as full power aldoron
@jdogg: that still proves Natsu isn’t as strong as full power aldoron
Natsu doesn't really have to be as strong as full power Aldron when even weakneed Aldron was tanking hits from Giant Gajeel and performing country level feats
@edgelord91: It proves he is relative to Aldo's full power and certainly above his casual attacks which is what I've stated from the get go....
@cocacolaman: lol Natsu would be pummeled to oblivion. When it comes to a bloodlusted battle speed is the most important factor if both characters are relative in attack power and Luffy has enough speed to make Natsu a bonafide statue.
@cocacolaman: lol Natsu would be pummeled to oblivion. When it comes to a bloodlusted battle speed is the most important factor if both characters are relative in attack power and Luffy has enough speed to make Natsu a bonafide statue.
The bolded is the main issue for Luffy, Natsu while bloodlusted (Dragon Force in other words) has better feats of raw power than anything I've seen from a One Piece character so far. In character, Luffy's speed advantage + his application of it in battle would give him the win though.
Would you be interested in CaVing it? I remember you did it with Woodward and never finished.
@cocacolaman: Would have finished the one I had with Molt but he said he lost interest. Yeah I'd be down for a Luffy vs Natsu CaV
@eazy_pezy: Neat! I'll PM you
@cocacolaman: fair point
@cocacolaman: Natsu vs Luffy CAV!? Be sure to tag me
@zero7: To weaken his MP to a certain degree so Natsu could keep up. Natsu also only had trouble in keeping up with him in Base and was holding back until he went DF and murder him. Aldo's physicals weren't weakened either and Natsu blew his body to kingdom come. That puts DF Natsu relative to Aldo's power and certainly above Aldo's casual power. Weakening Aldo only allowed Natsu to get the edge over him, but Natsu had to be at least above 75% of Aldo's power in order to beat him since Aldo stated he was not weakened that much.
@grandtoaa: yeah right
I have read more fairy tail hate from here than the past week 😂
That natsu would e a statue in luffy presence
Forgetting that natsu has dodged lightning attacks and has a lightning node which gives him higher speed
Include dragon force which is used on king animus(dragon) and lightning flame
Or even ignia flames alone(luffy hasn't had a feat of this kinda heat resistance)
What exactly is Selene's new feat?
Selene took out Suzaku's direct superior with a casual blitz that caused him to start bleeding profusely.
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