Current Ichigo AP (Read OP)

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Poll Current Ichigo AP (Read OP) (87 votes)

Country-Continental 39%
Moon 11%
Planetary 18%
Large Planet 3%
Star 3%
Solar Sytem 0%
Galaxy 1%
Universal 7%
Multiversal 16%

Current Ichigo AP

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Remember, this topic is being questioned for attack potency (AP), and not destructive capacity (DC).

Only canonical feats, if there is a canonical film can also be used. I know that some items of this voting may be absurd but I put it based on what I saw on forums and opinions on the internet. If you prove your point it will be even better.

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Still continental to multi-continental. Anything higher is nothing more than wank.

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#3  Edited By Dramus17

Continental at least and would solo One Piece and SDS like fodder.

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Moon level. Scales to Yhwach moving Wandenreich which wielded Moon level lowballed, but was legitimately a Planetary feat at its highest.

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moon-planetary it looks right

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He’s not continental, stop that

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He's country-continental, durability=/=ap which is how we arrived at this whole dumb IcHiGo Iz UnIvErSaL crap.

With that said, Hellverse Ichigo is probably higher that that by a wide margin but Hellverse Ichigo isn't canon.

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@diydeath: Technically it is, hell itself was Kubo's creation, it appears in both anime and manga, in addition to the fact that the film was reviewed by him and the design was made by him

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@ppo009 said:

@diydeath: Technically it is, hell itself was Kubo's creation, it appears in both anime and manga, in addition to the fact that the film was reviewed by him and the design was made by him

It really, really isn't. There are movie-tie in which confirm the characters and setting but the events which took place are 100% not canon.

So no Vasto Lord Ichigo with a cero that reaches through a dimension and busts a gate which Yamamoto; a planet-tier Shinigami states is impossible to bust. But sinners, etc are all canon.

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Just because Ichigo damages and defeats Yhwach, makes Ichigo at the minimum moon level.

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Max island level

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Planet to Star

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Planetary for sure.

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Mugetsu Ichigo is omniversal due to the infinite plot armor of the transformation

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At least continental but planetary is pushing it

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Continental to moon at best

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galaxy buster

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Planet at best.

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#21  Edited By gdara
@morningstar999 said:

Still continental to multi-continental. Anything higher is nothing more than wank.

@morningstar999 said:

Planet at best.

Damn, you really changed alot.

OT: Moon to Small Planetary.

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@gdara said:
@morningstar999 said:

Still continental to multi-continental. Anything higher is nothing more than wank.

@morningstar999 said:

Planet at best.

Damn, you really changed alot.

OT: Moon to Small Planetary.

Welp, my opinions change a lot with time ngl.

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#23  Edited By gdara
@morningstar999 said:
@gdara said:
@morningstar999 said:

Still continental to multi-continental. Anything higher is nothing more than wank.

@morningstar999 said:

Planet at best.

Damn, you really changed alot.

OT: Moon to Small Planetary.

Welp, my opinions change a lot with time ngl.

A sign of an open-minded person which is a good thing, since I've seen too many people lose debates many times and fail to change their opinion.

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#24  Edited By Sinbad_Hakuryuu

Hill level

OT: Planetary

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The trashleach verse still gets clapped by Base Jigen.

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Cope with that, BOI.

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The trashleach verse still gets clapped by Base Jigen.

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Cope with that, BOI.

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The day you actually have an argument will be a day to behold, my guy

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Planetary at absolute max

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@supersonictl: Irrelevant to the thread, sorry. And by absolute max I mean using the highest degree of reaching.

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@kalebsmarty156: You are right sorry but i was not trying to start another war just curious.

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Current Ichigo is weaker than the TYBW. His bankai remains broken (that thing that looks like his old Shikai) and Mayuri said a broken Bankai is weaker and will never be the same.

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Multiversal obviously, even chad was destroying galaxies by sneezing

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Current Ichigo is weaker than the TYBW. His bankai remains broken (that thing that looks like his old Shikai) and Mayuri said a broken Bankai is weaker and will never be the same.

We still haven't a full explanation of how his bankai is in that shape. Ichigo got all his powers back in after Yhwach's defeat.

Who knows ichigo is know an adult he should be way above then he was before.

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planetary

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''Canonical feats alone''

Why make the clarification when nobody counts these sort of stories due not not liking them, I count the anime but like aside from me nobody on planet does such a thing really

OT tho

It's possible that he got weaker due to living as a fammiliy man for awhile, I dont think kubo will go that route considering the backlash that kodachi got for doing the same thing however as of right now we cannot say for certain as confirmation has been issued ether way. It's possible die hard fans might just deny it happening like what the boruto community did anyways regardless of kubo does fans ultimately value their own headcanon over anything else so at the end of the day it really matters not what would be officially stated

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#38 dracoz  Online

If you count the Hellverse movies as canon, then Ichigo should be casually Planetary.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7G8O6ivWdbo&ab_channel=Omega_Ronan

Ichigo broke the chains of hell, which is stated by Yama himself to be unbreakable.

This implies that Yamamoto, the guy whose blade removes things from fucking existence, can't even break the chains himself.

And this is just FH Ichigo. Ichigo in just True Shikai is many many times stronger than FH.

I think that should be enough to place Ichigo at Planetary at least

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@dracoz: Multiversal level in Hellverse. Each level of Hell is an entire universe. Vasto Lorde blew through those floors.

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#41  Edited By Number3561

Well beyond country level due to scaling somewhere far above Shikai Kenpachi's meteor-busting feat. But it's unclear what exact tier this puts Ichigo at because there were no quantifiable destructive feats/statements that occurred afterward for Ichigo to scale from. Puts Ichigo's AP in a weird spot.

What's the reasoning behind planetary Ichigo? I can at least understand the arguments for universal Ichigo even if I disagree, but where does the planet-busting meta come from? Seems like it's a popular option for some reason.

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Multi-Continent-Planetary

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@dracoz: Multiversal level in Hellverse. Each level of Hell is an entire universe. Vasto Lorde blew through those floors.

Clear reason why the movie is non canon lmfao.

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@kalebsmarty156: don’t worry. That info came straight from Kubo on a sketch about Hell FOR the not canon movie. However, he didn’t like how everything was not what he wanted. The Bleach manga is going to return again with a new arc that started in the recent one shot. Howls From The Jaws of Hell Arc. You guess it. Hell is going to be explored in canon now. In the new one shot we found out Aizen’s and Yhwach’s Reiatsu were keeping Hell mouths itself in closed. Now they are open because both character are sealed away. So guess who is joining the roster for a trip to Hell… Aizen. We may get his Bankai this time.

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Off of pure feats not using statements or anything? Country-level or higher maybe

Off of feats, statements, scaling, and lore of Bleach? Multiplanet to multiversal

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#46  Edited By wayshrine

Planetary via Yhwach scaling.

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Planetary to large planetary.