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#1  Edited By GangOrca
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Rules:

Knowledge from previous fight

Win by death or KO

Who wins?

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#2 yamatama  Online

Genos incinerates him. Don't think Garou is on that lvl with Tats, Psykos & this Genos rn

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Genos Probably he deflected Psykorchi's blast

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#4 AGrape  Online

Garou has speed advantage, genos has DC advantage.

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He deflected her beam, didn't match it in power, chill out. Garou left Genos in the dust a long time ago.

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#6  Edited By GangOrca

@gentlecook: Really? It wasn’t just a one time thing in that chapter either. Psykos was weakened but Genos definitely upgraded his payload.

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He deflected her beam, didn't match it in power, chill out. Garou left Genos in the dust a long time ago.

This.

There's a reason Darkshine and CE outrank Genos (unless the lattermost has some new feats I'm unaware of?). At this point, there are only a handful of people in S class who could beat Garou and Genos is not one of them.

Only way Genos might win is if they start 1km apart in an open field. Garou wins 9/10, he beat someone (DS) who is firmly dragon-level. Webcomic Genos would be a good fight...

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@mcu-defender333: Sadly people will need to be reminded that Genos only deflected lmfao. And this doesn't make sense anyway, he's only supposed to reach solid Dragon tier till after this arc. If part of that blast was his, then that's output superior most of Boros' attacks.

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@gentlecook: In that same panel, he states he can one-shot the giant meteor from earlier in the series. That’s easily dragon level.

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#12  Edited By GentleCook

@gangorca: Yeah, it's impressive, i rather meant to highlight the part about him needing all his power to deflect a beam from Psykos. I guess Genos is Dragon now, but Garou has been deep into it for a while, and he's almost at the point of far surpassing it.

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#13  Edited By GangOrca

@gentlecook: Still think it’s close but you’re right that Genos’s beams are not on the level of Psykos.

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@gentlecook said:

He deflected her beam, didn't match it in power, chill out. Garou left Genos in the dust a long time ago.

This.

There's a reason Darkshine and CE outrank Genos (unless the lattermost has some new feats I'm unaware of?). At this point, there are only a handful of people in S class who could beat Garou and Genos is not one of them.

Only way Genos might win is if they start 1km apart in an open field. Garou wins 9/10, he beat someone (DS) who is firmly dragon-level. Webcomic Genos would be a good fight...

Deflecting a beam with enough force to lift quintillion tons of rock and ocean is still way above what this Garou has shown.

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#15  Edited By SquadDoubleYou

Genos stomps hardo

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#17 Eredin12  Online

Genos for now

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My Boi Genos. He slaughters

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Genos as of now should win based off of being comparable to Psykos Orochi, even if it's only for 10 seconds. Garou is made for countering hand to hand fighters, he has no counter to being incinerated by fire.

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@gentlecook said:

He deflected her beam, didn't match it in power, chill out. Garou left Genos in the dust a long time ago.

This.

There's a reason Darkshine and CE outrank Genos (unless the lattermost has some new feats I'm unaware of?). At this point, there are only a handful of people in S class who could beat Garou and Genos is not one of them.

Only way Genos might win is if they start 1km apart in an open field. Garou wins 9/10, he beat someone (DS) who is firmly dragon-level. Webcomic Genos would be a good fight...

Rank doesn't equal power, and Genos has never showed off this power before so there is no way his hero rank could represent it. Garou directly counters Darkshine, so comparing his performance against him to Genos isn't really fair in the first place.

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#21  Edited By Necromancer76

Garou still wins. He's faster and can likely dismantle Genos extraordinarily quickly based on his ability to overpower Darkshine's defenses with little difficulty. Even if he did get hit, he'd likely survive (based on his ridiculous durability).

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Interesting how many people think Garou has a chance here, but not characters like the Yonko from One Piece or Aldoron from Fairy Tail, even though they are all significantly stronger and faster than Garou. At least as of now.

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@alextheboss: I think he can contend powerwise but as of now the higher tier OP characters speed blitz him into oblivion.

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#25  Edited By SquadDoubleYou

@gangorca: wasn't intercepting Psykos' continental beam a speed feat?

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#27  Edited By GangOrca

@squaddoubleyou: Eh, it proves his attacks are fast but nothing really suggests his combat speed is up there with the likes of G4 Luffy.

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@squaddoubleyou: I still don't think it makes him on par with Luffy speedwise but that's just me.

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lmfao, this is a 10 second mode and he gave it his absolute all to deflect a single energy blast, at the very bet he scales to an extremely small portion of the beam, which is closer to country level to highball continental. I wanted to root for Genos but jesus this makes me look forward to Garou using his head as a soccer ball.

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#31  Edited By GentleCook

@alextheboss: like that one time he had no counter to Rover's energy blasts that bang couldn't afford to tank ? Or like that one time he had no counter to Orochi's beams that melted walls around him with how much heat it generated ?

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Feat-wise I'd probably give it to Genos. Give Garou a few more chapters...

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I mean in universe wise Garou likely hasn’t been surpassed, Garou’s definitely not slower. But he doesn’t really have the feats to tank his blast

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Do people honestly think that Genos has already surpassed Darkshine by a significant degree and is now among the Top 5 in the S-class just from this one feat? Let's chill out on the wank fam

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@gentlecook: @nwname: see below please.

@mcu-defender333 said:
@gentlecook said:

He deflected her beam, didn't match it in power, chill out. Garou left Genos in the dust a long time ago.

This.

There's a reason Darkshine and CE outrank Genos (unless the lattermost has some new feats I'm unaware of?). At this point, there are only a handful of people in S class who could beat Garou and Genos is not one of them.

Only way Genos might win is if they start 1km apart in an open field. Garou wins 9/10, he beat someone (DS) who is firmly dragon-level. Webcomic Genos would be a good fight...

Rank doesn't equal power, and Genos has never showed off this power before so there is no way his hero rank could represent it. Garou directly counters Darkshine, so comparing his performance against him to Genos isn't really fair in the first place.

I hadn't even read the chapter before commenting on this, I wasn't aware it had been released when I posted.

Genos stomps as soon as he enters his new blue dragon mode, the only possible way Garou could win would be if they were in a cramped room and he started a few metres away (or if Genos just decided not to use his new upgrades).

There is no way Genos could be deflecting Psykorochi's attacks unless he was at least approaching her in power, the fact that he actually took part in a beam struggle with her and didn't lose immediately is a huge testament to his power.

In his new mode, Genos is capable of hanging with the best of S class and easily higher dragon level.

And yes, Aldoron would get vaped, for the record.

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@squaddoubleyou: I still don't think it makes him on par with Luffy speedwise but that's just me.

Yup, definitely just you on that one.

Garou still wins. He's faster and can likely dismantle Genos extraordinarily quickly based on his ability to overpower Darkshine's defenses with little difficulty. Even if he did get hit, he'd likely survive (based on his ridiculous durability).

'He's faster'

That only matters if they start off close and are in a cramped area, given that Genos can fly and is fast enough to keep up with Psykorochi.

'can likely dismantle Genos extraordinarily quickly'

If he could get up close and personal, sure. Meanwhile, Genos could one-shot him.

'based on his ability to overpower Darkshine's defenses with little difficulty'

It was a challenge for Garou, he adapted and evolved his style just to pull it off.

'Even if he did get hit, he'd likely survive (based on his ridiculous durability).'

Current Garou has no feats to suggest he could tank energy attacks that are close to Psykorochi's in potency.

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@mcu-defender333:

-Idk how this nullifies Garou's speed, given that they have knowledge from their previous encounter so Garou clearly knows Genos' ranged power and will fight accordingly. And he can certainly live longer than 10 seconds if thats what Genos opts to. He's not getting touched by Genos anyway, given that Genos' new form increases his damage at the expense of his other traits, and Garou was already not getting touched by him after being gravely wounded by WDM, Saitama, and the A-class heroes.

-And I suppose Garou is going to allow Genos to hit him?

-Not really, as soon as he woke up from his trance, Garou was countering Darkshine with ease.

-Ummmm...yeah he does. We already know he has a confirmed ability to grow in power significantly after being heavily injured. A strong example is how, after nearly being killed by Royal Ripper, he grew in power enough to be able to one-shot said Royal Ripper. Now take into account his recent durability feats, in which he was taking severe damage from Rover, Orochi, and Darkshine, all who have the power to one-shot. Consequently, Garou's durability has gone up even more and is now bordering his Awakened durability (especially considering how his Limiter is breaking). So, even if Genos tags him (which is unlikely), Garou isn't dying.

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#38  Edited By MCU-Defender333

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@mcu-defender333:

-Idk how this nullifies Garou's speed, given that they have knowledge from their previous encounter so Garou clearly knows Genos' ranged power and will fight accordingly. And he can certainly live longer than 10 seconds if thats what Genos opts to. He's not getting touched by Genos anyway, given that Genos' new form increases his damage at the expense of his other traits, and Garou was already not getting touched by him after being gravely wounded by WDM, Saitama, and the A-class heroes.

-And I suppose Garou is going to allow Genos to hit him?

-Not really, as soon as he woke up from his trance, Garou was countering Darkshine with ease.

-Ummmm...yeah he does. We already know he has a confirmed ability to grow in power significantly after being heavily injured. A strong example is how, after nearly being killed by Royal Ripper, he grew in power enough to be able to one-shot said Royal Ripper. Now take into account his recent durability feats, in which he was taking severe damage from Rover, Orochi, and Darkshine, all who have the power to one-shot. Consequently, Garou's durability has gone up even more and is now bordering his Awakened durability (especially considering how his Limiter is breaking). So, even if Genos tags him (which is unlikely), Garou isn't dying.

'Idk how this nullifies Garou's speed'

He flies into the air and rains hell on him.

'given that they have knowledge from their previous encounter so Garou clearly knows Genos' ranged power and will fight accordingly.'

What do you propose Garou should do against someone flying up and attacking with blasts that could one-shot dragon-level threats and change the trajectory of continental-level blasts? Genos would also know that Garou has a big advantage in close combat. And Genos's beams can now break into smaller attacks, as seen when he was deflecting multiple attacks from the Orochi dragon heads simultaneously.

'He's not getting touched by Genos anyway, given that Genos' new form increases his damage at the expense of his other traits'

Um, what? He's fast enough to keep up with Psykorochi, how has he gotten slower?

'Garou was already not getting touched by him after being gravely wounded by WDM, Saitama, and the A-class heroes.'

OK:

1. 'Gravely' suggests fatal, which his injuries were not.

2. Garou came very close to having his head melted off in their fight.

3. Genos would have killed him if Bang hadn't arrived when he did.

'Not really, as soon as he woke up from his trance, Garou was countering Darkshine with ease.'

Countering, yes- overcoming his defenses and actually inflicting damage? Garou adapted to do that. It is repeatedly stated he grew stronger and faster over the course of the fight.

'Ummmm...yeah he does. We already know he has a confirmed ability to grow in power significantly after being heavily injured.'

It's difficult to recover and grow in power if you're dead- which Garou will be, when Genos tags him even once.

'Consequently, Garou's durability has gone up even more and is now bordering his Awakened durability (especially considering how his Limiter is breaking)'

We don't know that yet. We saw, just as his fight with Darkshine ended, that he was beginning to evolve even more, but we don't know how large the boost is yet. At the moment, we can only judge him by his performance with Darkshine.

All depends on where the fight takes place and their mindsets, but at the moment Genos is making a big impact on a fight with the strongest monster in the MA. Offsetting Psykorochi's attacks >>> getting the upper hand against Darkshine, especially a Darkshine who lost the will to fight as soon as he recognised Garou as a genuine challenge.

Current Genos wins 9/10

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Genos for the time being.

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People actually believe Genos scales above Darkshine hilarious. Garou has tanked and dodged heat from Rover and Orochi before when he was much weaker. He is just gonna adapt and kill him.Oh wait he doesn't need to.

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Anyone who believes Genos is above Darkshine is just a fanboy.

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People actually believe Genos scales above Darkshine hilarious. Garou has tanked and dodged heat from Rover and Orochi before when he was much weaker. He is just gonna adapt and kill him.Oh wait he doesn't need to.

Nice user name.

The base Orochi that Garou fought (and lost against) was both:

1. holding back so as not to kill him

2. fodder compared to the creature Genos is fighting at the moment.

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@mcu-defender333: Look! Genos attacks have always looked more flashy and cool than almost everyone in the series. This is probably why you side with him. Garou is not about desctruction he is about technique, just like Darkshine is about durability.
Bang never destroyed a mountain before doesn't mean he's weaker than BOS Genos.
If he's durability is still like that things are not good for him because Garou now can no sell Darkshine at full power, has regen and can adapt instantly. Genos 10 sec mode is already being used and is a last trump card, after that he is gonna lost arms again.
Garou tanked Rover twice and dodged some attacks who WAS trying to kill him. Did Orochi breathe fire gently so he wont die? Psykos stated his insane durability against heat and is waaaay stronger now. Sorry but Garou wins.

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I would say Genos for now, until we see more from current Garou.

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#46 Sy8000  Online

Genos one-shots him. I'm not sure this version of Garou will ever get the feats, considering he'll be a monster in his next appearance, though maybe Darkshine will do something impressive to scale from.

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#47  Edited By GentleCook

@darkpsychiclord_prime: we've seen everything there is to see from "current" Garou, next time he appears he caves Golden Sperm's face in, and that's a more powerful version.

I've kinda changed my mind, Genos could possibly win if he goes ape shit in his 10 sec mode off the bat and doesn't allow Garou to do anything funky.

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@gentlecook: Ok so the version in this thread is the last we'll see from human Garou? Then Genos takes it.

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#49  Edited By jashro44

Genos' big attack was a last resort. Also OP doesn't specify distance so they begin close. I'd argue Genos wont get a chance to use his blast.

Comicvine has always fetishized DC. It doesn't mean much if Garou can still hurt him and blitz him.

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@necromancer76: People will always think cooler attacks like in DBZ are stronger. Garou was never about desctruction he is about technique. Just like Darkshine is about durability.