Current Dr Manhattan vs Franklin Richards

who wins?

@kalder_ridley: has his true power been revealed yet?

and does he still have random rules and limits like?

FR

Manhattan stomps. He warped the entire DC multiverse and is way above mr mxyz

Franklin

Manhattan > Mxy > Franklin

Current Manhattan is insane and the fact that he'll know what Franklin will do before he even does it doesn't help Franklin's situation

Dr manhattan is barely universal at most while fr is too so dont know the winner lol

@archangel01:

What about causing the whole DC Rebirth which is affecting the whole Multiverse?

@ezraarcher: Dr manhattan is a virus compared to real multiversel beings such as Michael Demiourgu,Lucifer Morningstar etc..

bump

Dr. Manhattan "is shown to be absolutely powerful and invulnerable to all harm; even when his body is disintegrated, he can reconstruct it in a matter of seconds, which is the very first "trick" he learned. Jon has complete awareness of and control over atomic and subatomic particles and can see even neutrinos. He is also an omnikinetic. He does not need air, water, food or sleep and is immortal. He can teleport himself and others over limitless distances, an ability which Dreiberg had nicknamed Manhattan Transfer. Due to his perception of time, he sees the past, present and future simultaneously. Jon can see events so tiny and so fast, that they can be said to have never occurred at all."

A hard fight but at the end it's

RIP Franklin Richards

Based on implied power Manhanttan should be a notch or two above Frankie

I'm pretty sure Franklin Richard wins, he made Galactus his herald.

Dr manhattan FTW

I'm not commenting...

I'm bumping.... ..with style.

Manhattan curbs by hype.

Still Franklin. Literally recreating the Marvel Multiverse, same as Manhattan. And then you take a look at all of his other feats (all consistent with each other) and it's pretty clear to see Franklin's still just on another level to Manhattan.

@jamespacker: I'd you don't mind me asking.. What's happening to Zoom in that scene there?

He Saw Dr Manhattan (GOD)

@jamespacker: Thanks! You are very much appreciated!

Overall to me it depends.

Manhattan can become omnipotent or near omnipotent, yes?

Franklin as a child = celestial level. If he were to unlock his powers completely and train, he could reach Eternity level. His reality warping powers are pretty OP, OP enough to fight someone slightly above celestial level and defeat him as a child.

If this was the old Jon then FR stomps...

But were talking about the new one so Manhattan STOMPS.

@joshuaw14984941: my money would be on the celetials if they fought eternity.. eternitys feats= poo when it comes to battle.

@thetruthhurts: First, your picture belongs to one of my top 5 favorite characters (ranked 1#, Morningstar!!)

Second, I think your right. If the celestials did fight Eternity is basically trash in terms of fighting, unless he just decides to end it quickly w/ a big blast. But your also right about the Manhattan one. If this is the most powerful form of Manhattan, he would win.

But then again.. Telekinesis, Telepathy, Matter Manipulation and less than nigh-omnipotent (higher than deity though) reality warping > mostly only matter manipulation (though Manhattan has been known to use more powers than just that, like size alter for example)

But yeah, it basically comes down to Franklin's Reality Warping & Manhattan's Matter Manipulation as his Matter Manipulation would still surpass even Adult Franklin Richards.

Coming not just from me, here is a chart for tiers in Marvel, I won't be including EVERYONE, just a few known people (Franklin, Celestials, etc; compared to them, in DC, Manhattan would be around nigh-omnipotent tier depending on which one it is, maybe even slightly above Nigh-Omnipotent, maybe alittle less)

Manhattan should slaughter ! he was stated to be higher than pre 52 Mxy in term of "raw of power" or simply "reality manipulation" that should put him at multiversal+ level easily which mean FR would get annihilated.

@jamespacker: Why was Zoom holding a smiley face thing?

Still franklin, mxy is fodder since new 52 anyways. Is manhattan killing thawne supposed to be impressive? Franklin stomps, he shaped marvel multi verse while manhattan only messed up some time lines.

FR.

Dr. Manhattan creating the New 52 isn't that impressive when Franklin (As a child) created Universes and Pocket Universes.

Can I get Manhattan's feats outside of the above scans and the original Watchmen comic? And pretty much anything abut Franklin that isn't a comparison to Galactus?

@arranvidreturns: It's the Comedians button that Batman had previously found. Thawne stole it from him and used the residual energy from it to track down Dr. M thinking that he could steal Dr. M's power for himself.... We know how that turned out

@silverrings: Manhattan doesn't have that many feats since he has limited appearances, but what little he has be shown to do is pretty impressive. Now his implied feats, that's a whole other story. Based off of what we are told by other characters in rebirth, he is more powerful than even Myx, which is crazy already. He can affect the multiverse and timeline at will. He one-shotted some pretty powerful people, like Pandora. He was able interfere with The Guardians ritual to bring back members of the blue lantern corps by using the power of the white lantern. Not only was he able to stop the ritual, but he destroyed the white lantern ring, turning Kyle back into a green lantern. He instantaneously transported Jor-El away from Krypton literally at the moment of the explosion. He saved the Comedian right before he hit the ground, but not only did he save him, he transported him into the DC universe at the same time. He did most of this without even being present at the situation and remaining entirely undetectable.

This all seems to be him just toying with people at this point, like some sort of experiment. With that said, I don't think we have seen close to his full power.

Mxy casually destroys DC every friday or something.

@professathought: he saw Dr. Manhattan's penis and disintegrated.

Franklin Richards for now.

If that stuff about him being above Mxy is true... then Franklin is dead.

FR.

Manhattan

manhattan has power over matter and energy to a an untold level but is still bound by there laws he can't make impossible things happen franklin has reality warping powers he could do anything he wants.

@comic_book_fan: I would argue that Manhattan has some form of reality warping or his matter manipulation is on Molecule Man levels since he stripped 10 years from the DC multiverse. Either way, he should be more than enough for Franklin.

Franklin Richards.

Franklin wins imo

Manhattan less then zero diff

Manhattan stomps

Franklin would win.

Franklin wins in my eyes. Yes technically Manhattan has warped dc on a multiversal scale but thats cause he is alting things in the original universes past which in turn affected the multiverse. There is a scan where mxy calls him aka Manhattan worse but if you look at the context of the issue mxy simply acknowledges changes throughout the multiverse as weirdness and he knows Manhattan is causing it but he doesnt understand how. He says he is worse cause he is experimenting with the multiverse while mxy only toys with superman. So no Manhattan isnt above mxy and unless he shows it in the next to issues he simply isnt

After catching up on DDC. Definitely going Manhattan, he literally reshaped the multiverse/interfered with it a few times. He could easily alter any universe since he's screwing with the multiverse's center essentially. I'm not sure I'd put Manhattan above WF Mxy, but then neither is Franklin.