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#1 Posted by Eobard21 (3505 posts) - - Show Bio

Morals off

Take place in central city

No prep

No knoweldge

Who wins ?

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#2 Posted by TonyMartial (7047 posts) - - Show Bio

Barry didnt even try in the fight, he was just trying to keep Nora safe and run away. At best, you can say he has similar travel speed. But once Barry goes Flashtime its over for Zoom.

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#4 Posted by Wolfrazer (15863 posts) - - Show Bio

@tonymartial: Flashtime isn’t some separate ability. It’s literally said how speedsters see and shown even before the episode it jut wasn’t named.

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#5 Posted by SupremeGeneration (10237 posts) - - Show Bio

@tonymartial: Flashtime isn’t some separate ability. It’s literally said how speedsters see and shown even before the episode it jut wasn’t named.

That must be why the next time that Barry went into Flashtime he outright said he'd... go into Flashtime...

OT: Barry stomps, Tuesday's episode was clearly some form or another of PIS/WIS. Zoom at that point was like Mach 20, tops, with highball. S4 Barry was >> S3 Barry who in turn was >> S2 Barry who was only barely slower than Zoom. Now we're on S5 Barry who should logically be > S4 Barry since a big part of the show is getting faster.

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#6 Posted by SupremeGeneration (10237 posts) - - Show Bio

Barry didnt even try in the fight, he was just trying to keep Nora safe and run away. At best, you can say he has similar travel speed. But once Barry goes Flashtime its over for Zoom.

Barry doesn't even need to go into Flashtime to beat Zoom, that was just bad writing imo.

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#8 Posted by DeutschKurzhaar (916 posts) - - Show Bio

Isn’t Zoom still faster ??

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#9 Posted by The_Kidd (11191 posts) - - Show Bio

@deutschkurzhaar: No, he isn't even faster than EoS 2 Flash.

S5 zoom is still S2 Zoom..

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#10 Edited by DiarrheaRegatta (3088 posts) - - Show Bio

Zoom wins. There's no evidence Barry was going slower, lol

A feat is a feat, Barry jobs to his superior opponent

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#11 Posted by DrPepperMan (5778 posts) - - Show Bio

Zoom gets blitzed.

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#12 Posted by Slade-Prime (936 posts) - - Show Bio

Flash still wins.

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#13 Posted by DeutschKurzhaar (916 posts) - - Show Bio

@the_kidd: I mean.. I know Barry is very inconsistent but im pretty sure season 2 flash is not faster than zoom. All the main enemies have all been faster than flash in their seasons, like.. thats kinda the point they have to be faster than him otherwise it would be a bad show.

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#15 Posted by DeutschKurzhaar (916 posts) - - Show Bio

@eobard21: They were pretty close ill say that but, zoom still beat him 🤷🏼‍♂️

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#16 Posted by Subline (4427 posts) - - Show Bio

The Flash stomps, he's way faster now.

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#17 Edited by The_Kidd (11191 posts) - - Show Bio

@deutschkurzhaar: EoS (End of Season) 2 Barry already beat Zoom in the finale. Barry was amped after his meeting with the Speed Force.

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#18 Posted by DeutschKurzhaar (916 posts) - - Show Bio

@the_kidd: Obviously he beats him, like I said it would be a bad show if he didn't.

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#19 Posted by B_r023 (5303 posts) - - Show Bio

Barry in Season 2 already beat him. The current one stomps.

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#20 Posted by jashro44 (50865 posts) - - Show Bio

Zoom wins. There's no evidence Barry was going slower, lol

A feat is a feat, Barry jobs to his superior opponent

Barry was established as being faster than Zoom at the end of season 2 and he's gotten faster since. A feat isn't just a feat when its PIS.

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#21 Posted by The_Kidd (11191 posts) - - Show Bio

@jashro44: Might not be pis, Barry was running maintain pace with Nora, someone who is confirm slower.

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#22 Posted by MarvelandDCfan24 (6491 posts) - - Show Bio

Flash job what else is new

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#23 Posted by jashro44 (50865 posts) - - Show Bio

@the_kidd said:

@jashro44: Might not be pis, Barry was running maintain pace with Nora, someone who is confirm slower.

Has it been confirmed she is slower? I don't think Nora's speed has ever been stated or measured.

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#24 Edited by The_Kidd (11191 posts) - - Show Bio

@jashro44: During their fight Nora couldn't touch Barry without using her time rewind trick.

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#25 Posted by jashro44 (50865 posts) - - Show Bio

@the_kidd said:

@jashro44: During their fight Nora couldn't touch Barry without using her time rewind trick.

I guess. She didn't seem that much slower there though.

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#26 Posted by TheWatcherKing (18003 posts) - - Show Bio

@the_kidd said:

Might not be pis, Barry was running maintain pace with Nora, someone who is confirm slower.

Pretty sure XS is faster than Zoom is(if we disregard what Zoom did last episode for obvious reasons).

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#29 Posted by RBT (25819 posts) - - Show Bio

Barry stomps. Last night was PIS. Simple as that.

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#30 Posted by LightYagami1000 (477 posts) - - Show Bio

A morals off Barry isn't gonna be a jobber... He's gonna be a speedster who will phase his right hand through any living person. And it's very easy to remember how much damaged Zoom has done.

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#31 Edited by Helloman (25050 posts) - - Show Bio

Barry wins.

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#32 Posted by Hypnos0929 (6187 posts) - - Show Bio

I think Barry was purposefully slowing down to make sure Zoom didn't go after Nora.

And are we not gonna talk about how much they screwed the timeline AGAIN and someone created a closed loop!

By going back Nora met Thawne, and due to that he knew her name and eventually met her in the future to send her back. So we have one closed loop in which Nora was always meant to go back AND Thawne knew he was going to lose.

Then we have Zoom who was taken by a time wreath too soon.

Who knows what they've done yo the timeline!

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#33 Posted by deactivated-5c0a9cb75f8ee (28 posts) - - Show Bio

Zoom wins. There's no evidence Barry was going slower, lol

A feat is a feat, Barry jobs to his superior opponent

QFT.

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#34 Edited by Eobard21 (3505 posts) - - Show Bio

@hypnos0929: I wonder about zoom too cause that would mean that zoom got defeated sooner and Henry never died ?

No Flashpoint ? No Savitar ?

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#35 Posted by Hypnos0929 (6187 posts) - - Show Bio

@eobard21: I think there'd still be a Savitar he just would need a new way to escape. Maybe he'd find a way to contact DeVoe.

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#36 Edited by GuedesEvery (566 posts) - - Show Bio

This topic should not be taken seriously. Barry curbstomps.

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#37 Posted by Eobard21 (3505 posts) - - Show Bio
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