Morals off
Take place in central city
No prep
No knoweldge
Who wins ?
Barry didnt even try in the fight, he was just trying to keep Nora safe and run away. At best, you can say he has similar travel speed. But once Barry goes Flashtime its over for Zoom.
@tonymartial: Flashtime isn’t some separate ability. It’s literally said how speedsters see and shown even before the episode it jut wasn’t named.
@tonymartial: Flashtime isn’t some separate ability. It’s literally said how speedsters see and shown even before the episode it jut wasn’t named.
That must be why the next time that Barry went into Flashtime he outright said he'd... go into Flashtime...
OT: Barry stomps, Tuesday's episode was clearly some form or another of PIS/WIS. Zoom at that point was like Mach 20, tops, with highball. S4 Barry was >> S3 Barry who in turn was >> S2 Barry who was only barely slower than Zoom. Now we're on S5 Barry who should logically be > S4 Barry since a big part of the show is getting faster.
Barry didnt even try in the fight, he was just trying to keep Nora safe and run away. At best, you can say he has similar travel speed. But once Barry goes Flashtime its over for Zoom.
Barry doesn't even need to go into Flashtime to beat Zoom, that was just bad writing imo.
@deutschkurzhaar: No, he isn't even faster than EoS 2 Flash.
S5 zoom is still S2 Zoom..
Zoom wins. There's no evidence Barry was going slower, lol
A feat is a feat, Barry jobs to his superior opponent
@the_kidd: I mean.. I know Barry is very inconsistent but im pretty sure season 2 flash is not faster than zoom. All the main enemies have all been faster than flash in their seasons, like.. thats kinda the point they have to be faster than him otherwise it would be a bad show.
@deutschkurzhaar: S2 barry and zoom were pretty much on thé same level
@eobard21: They were pretty close ill say that but, zoom still beat him ??♂️
@deutschkurzhaar: EoS (End of Season) 2 Barry already beat Zoom in the finale. Barry was amped after his meeting with the Speed Force.
@the_kidd: Obviously he beats him, like I said it would be a bad show if he didn't.
Zoom wins. There's no evidence Barry was going slower, lol
A feat is a feat, Barry jobs to his superior opponent
Barry was established as being faster than Zoom at the end of season 2 and he's gotten faster since. A feat isn't just a feat when its PIS.
Might not be pis, Barry was running maintain pace with Nora, someone who is confirm slower.
Pretty sure XS is faster than Zoom is(if we disregard what Zoom did last episode for obvious reasons).
@thewatcherking: Should be but who knows how fast Nora is exactly?
A morals off Barry isn't gonna be a jobber... He's gonna be a speedster who will phase his right hand through any living person. And it's very easy to remember how much damaged Zoom has done.
I think Barry was purposefully slowing down to make sure Zoom didn't go after Nora.
And are we not gonna talk about how much they screwed the timeline AGAIN and someone created a closed loop!
By going back Nora met Thawne, and due to that he knew her name and eventually met her in the future to send her back. So we have one closed loop in which Nora was always meant to go back AND Thawne knew he was going to lose.
Then we have Zoom who was taken by a time wreath too soon.
Who knows what they've done yo the timeline!
Zoom wins. There's no evidence Barry was going slower, lol
A feat is a feat, Barry jobs to his superior opponent
QFT.
@hypnos0929: I wonder about zoom too cause that would mean that zoom got defeated sooner and Henry never died ?
No Flashpoint ? No Savitar ?
@eobard21: I think there'd still be a Savitar he just would need a new way to escape. Maybe he'd find a way to contact DeVoe.
@hypnos0929: I really dont know tbh
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