Current Asta vs Current Luffy

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Asta is leagues faster and his fighting style is something Luffy is weak against

r1:luffy mid diffs

r2:solos the verse h2h

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Luffy both rounds without much trouble. The only issue might be Asta's speed, but his attacks aren't doing anything to Luffy.

Even is we want to consider Asta as lightspeed, It was stated in a databook that only people with observation haki can react to Kizaru who is lightspeed in his own right.

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Luffy dominates

Luffy should have no problem beating him both round.

Asta round 1

Asta is multi-mountain lvl at best. Luffy is country lvl. It's clear who wins.

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doesn't that just degrade OP though? It means no one can react to a light-speed character and they have to rely on something besides raw speed. sorry fo tagging you in a dead tread btw

Asta blitzes and one shots.

I haven’t kept up with BC since Timeskip but from I remember before the Timeskip Demon Form Asta did block Dark Elf Patri Light Beams so his pre Timeskip dark form should have LS reactions and post timeskip higher. But I agree Luffy could probably keep up via Haki observation, n if that takes care of speed then I don’t see why Luffy doesnt physically own him, especially when asta has been hurt by physical attacks before.
Oda needs to give Luffy better feats. It’s almost 1000 chapters and he is only around Admiral level.

Luffy should one-shot him

Luffy was tanking slash from Doflamingo who was cutting through meteor, so i don't see this happening.

what is round 2 lol how is asta gonna h2h luffy

Asta is island level and light speed. He gets destroyed by luffy mid diff. Only reason its a mid diff is cuz of his speed advantage, equalize speed and luffy stomps.

^the lowball anyways asta stomps

@lichgod3: It definitely better than Large country lv Asta.

OT: Luffy, Asta only has speed on Luffy.

Both have similar reaction speed but luffy's ap and durability is higher. Also Asta can only maintain his devil union for 5 minutes, and afterwards his ap will drop. But even back in dressrosa Luffy could hold gear 4th for more than 20 minutes. And with conqueror's coating he can perform attacks on a similar level to gear 4th in base. Luffy has too many advantages here.

Asta stomps

@exauce: but he's indeed large country level, anyways how's luffy winning here exactly

@lichgod3: But he isn't my friend, Someone claiming he is Island seems way more believable than claiming he is Large Country.

Well other than speed, Asta doesn't have anything on Luffy, Luffy is stronger and way more durable, plus he has ryou.

They're similar in AP

But asta is faster. Not just faster, but faster.

Luffy ragdolls, asta simply can’t hold a candle to him in the AP department and asta’s speed cant save him forever he’ll eventually run out of stamina then gg

Similar in AP my ass.. base form luffy having as much AP as yonkos who scale above large country add luffys gears and asta gets outclassed badly

The situation is even worse when it comes to durability ..base luffy has been taking hits from a yonko for a while now and they still can't put him down permanently despite each hit negating his rubber defence and asta has no such ability to negate it so if he's going to put luffy down he's going to show far more Ap than a yonko ...Good luck with that

Speed is still heavily debatable

Asta outside of his verse is just a brick, and Luffy is one of the strongest bricks in the HST.

Luffy >>>>>> Asta, all though Asta's speed should massively outclass luffy.

people still downplaying bc to a below country level verse?

OT: asta wins

@limitbreaker1: I’m pretty sure Luffy has comparable AP and he should keep up with Asta in speed, so I don’t see how this does not go either way.

@harempolice: BC pretty much eclipses the HST when it comes to speed, so I don't think luffy could really keep up

@limitbreaker1: Tbh who wouldn't? their feats don't really scream country lvl.

@exauce: Well i could say the same for one piece, but bc at this point has numerous things pointing to country level I don't see why you wouldn't believe it

That does not mean he’s stronger than Naruto or Ichigo, faster=/=Stronger, also Luffy was keeping up with Kaido who was blitzing him with while Luffy has future sight on.

Good CoO haki can keep track of Kizaru, that fact that Luffy had future sight on and Kaido was blitzing him and Luffy keeping up with him just shows Luffy to be FTL but Asta is still slightly faster but not enough to blitz. like I said this could go either way.

Well it’s clear cut that One Piece has should have country+ to large country characters like the current admirals and Yonko’s. But It could be iffy on the large country tier so there definitely country+. But saying Country or Large Country BC isn’t Believable is ridiculous..

> bc verse only has multiple ftl tier Characters with few precog users

> op also has multiple ftl tier Characters with precog & FS to boot

Bc stans: ..ha ha..bc speedblitz and statue bc eclipse them in speed op characters can't tag 🤦‍♂️.

Asta is faster, but Luffy is far too durable and would one-shot Asta with a single punch.

-> Asta dodges Gauche's laser, but just 30 chapters ago he was unable to dodge Magna's fire throw

BC fans: FTL Asta

-> Chopper dodges Queen's laser

BC fans: no no he ain't FTL

Luffy kills the noob

Asta isn't faster, that's cap

Black Clover characters telegraph light speed attacks, at best Asta is relativistic like Luffy but physically weaker

That being said he still probably wins since he won't have to rely on blunt force to beat Luffy.

All this FTL because of lasers is generally bullshit, best case scenario it may place someone in the MHS+ - relativistic range

The only 2 popular Shonen series that have legit light speed reaction are Naruto and Bleach....

@curbstomped17:

I know its bullshit, but if BC fans are gonna wank Asta to FTL, then they gotta do it for Luffy too. If BC fans gonna downplay Luffy, then do it for Asta too.

@exauce: Asta litterly has a country level feat even if he isn't large country level he does indeed have country level feat

@pr03:

"Asta dodges Gauche's laser, but just 30 chapters ago he was unable to dodge Magna's fire throw"

I really don't understand this logic who is scaling asta's FTL reactions to gauche lasers asta got FTL from licht not gauche

-> Chopper dodges Queen's laser

BC fans: no no he ain't FTL"

And I'll say this again who in the hell is scaling off of gauche lasers

@lichgod3: The only "country-level" you have is a bad guy trying to destroy a place that ain't even country size.

Hearing the word "country" doesn't automatically make the character country lvl regardless of size.