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Poll Cracker vs Doflamingo (84 votes)

Cracker 45%
Doflamingo 55%

Lets end this shit already ! its been like 5 years of this debate

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#1  Edited By jurrian09

@Xebec @Wushu59 @supremekilla010 @pics @Yray

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Doflamingo wins.

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Doflamingo has more versatility with his strings.

He wins Extremely High Difficulty.

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Cracker high diff

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Doflamingo

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Doflamingo have awakening which counters Cracker Infinite biscuit soldier.

Meanwhile,Cracker lost to one hit(or bounce) from Gear Fourth Luffy which Doflamingo could tank.Doflamingo win high diff

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Doffy. He has flight advantage (how is cracker even gonna be able to touch him with his biscuit soldier), awakening which can convert cracker's biscuit into string, indestructible bird cage, can use his string to manipulate biscuit soldier, better durability, faster speed, CoC. I don't see cracker giving doflamingo too much trouble at all. Doffy mid diff.

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#9  Edited By Wushu59

I've changed my mind.

Still give Cracker the speed advantage but as someone pointed out above, Doffy's Devil Fruit Awakening is a good answer to Cracker's Biscuit army.

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#10  Edited By Raziel2014

Doflamingo would win due to the fact that he made Luffy use his ultimate power = Gear 4th + Gear 3rd= King Kong Gun.

Cracker has higher stats than Doflamingo as he is able to fight on par with Gear 4th Luffy via Swordsmanship but Doflamingo DF development is far superior.

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doffy

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If Ito Ito no Mi's awakening can turn Cracker's army into strings than Doflamingo would win with high difficulty. If he can't, he'll get eventually overwhelmed by Cracker's army, the latter would win with high difficulty.

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It could honestly go either way but I’d back Doffy since he has his devil fruit awakening plus more better showings.

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Cracker on paper should win but with further analysis Doffy

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#16  Edited By juiceboks  Moderator

I don't understand why we're assuming Cracker's biscuits can be turned into strings when we know Cracker can imbue them with Haki to counter. And with Cracker's Haki being demonstrably above Doffy's as well as the confirmation straight from Luffy's mouth, he's never going to get past the armor.

Cracker should overwhelm him.

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Doffy if he can hit Cracker's true form if not, he'll get overwhelmed

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Cracker wins Doflamingo absolutely can't bypass Cracker defense and Cracker was reacting to g4 Luffy easily. Meanwhile Doflamingo was getting blitzed he does have an advantage with flight but that isn't enough to give him the win here.

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Nah ..man I'm giving it to cracker in a very close fight

He can spam hundreds of buscuit soldiers each having superior haki than g4 and remember doffy failed repeatedly at trying to pierce through g4 haki even with awakened strings.

Each biscuit soldier also have superior stats than g2+g3 luffy post dressrossa arc and this luffy still had enough ap to damage doffy now an army of that luffy would overwhelm doffy easily especially while having much higher defence(haki) than doffy can deal with even with awakening.

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This needs to be CaV'ed(Just like Zoro vs Sanji)

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Not sure what makes Doflamingo slower here when he has actual feats of dodging Gear 4 Luffy attacks. People are comparing certain things that don't go well either. Cracker's guards were getting blasted by basic Gear 4 attacks

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Doflamingo was taking shots from Gear 4 amplified beyond its limit. The blows of which Luffy through at Cracker were nowhere as potent. Doflamingo's Awakening would power through the biscuits considering Luffy needed stronger attacks to actually overpower his Awakening. Doflamingo's arsenal is far more versatile, and given how Cracker fights, Doffy getting overwhelemed is so unlikely. Doflamingo would do better in that situation than Luffy due to him being able to use stronger attacks for longer duration, has range, strings that are incredibly small and can heal injuries, Doflamingo by virtue has the capabilities of winning in less span of time than Luffy.

Cracker is really cocky and would attack from blind spots, him losing was literally because of his ignorance to attack head on. Cracker isn't just going to sit back and do nothing, he's going to attack in-person so long as his guards are present or being some type of distraction. Because Doflamingo has range and AoE, what's stopping him from surrounding the area in strings and constantly spamming strikes that would eventually expose Cracker? The dude is not afraid to be in the opening:

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Cracker is going to be overwhelmed first if anything. He cannot deal with Doflamingo's range, and Doflamingo can take down his guards. Haki is the only thing in favor of Cracker here.

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Mistakenly voted doffy

On topic doffy dies

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They would stalemate as Cracker may have the superior defense capabilities than Doffy but the Joker has that for his offensive attacks. But in the end neither would really get good hits out on the other making the other the loser of this fight.

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Doflamingo.

Yes, Cracker has the harder haki. But Luffy managed to break Cracker's solider in gear 4 easily. All we have to do is demonstrate that Doflamingo could match a simliar attack from gear 4 Luffy and he could in theory break a biscuit solider. (If Luffy in gear 4 was unable to break a biscuit then obviously Doflamingo would not be able to but that's not what happened. )

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Doflamingo's stamina was undoubtedly higher than Luffy's at the time. Lets not forget he was heavily injured by Law and still managed to outlast G4. Cracker was one shot on the other hand. I just cannot give this to cracker in retrospect.

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#27  Edited By Wushu59

If Luffy didn't have an appetite like Goku he might have lost to Cracker. Which is funny.

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Doflamingo wins low-mid diff

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Doffy with some difficulty. His Awakening is till date the only technique by a Commander tier that could stand up to G4 Boundman in raw power and defenses. G4 Boundman breaks Cracker's biscuits like a toothpick so Doffy's Awakening shouldn't have any issues breaking through the biscuits or defending Doffy either. And Cracker has no real counter for Doffy's flight and ranged offense, not to mention his durability and endurance sucks compared to Doffy as well.

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Doffy wins mid diff at most

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Doflamingo is too versatile for cracker, also has some hax shit.

I could go into things like doffy's aerial advantage, awakening, endurance etc.

But until someone can prove that Cracker can bypass Parasyte / Birdcage, he's losing

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ur opinion = creditless

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#32  Edited By Occhidifalco11

Doflamingo is overrated as shit

Even big mom sent cracker to fight luffy knowing well about the lost of doflamingo so she considered cracker>doflamingo but anyway both are third commander level on the same tier

That said probably in a fight one on one cracker is physically stronger but the awakeing is a great counter to his biscuits so maybe doflamingo can wins if he fight cleverly but cracker can wins spamming like 100 biscuits at once and cut doflamingo's limbs with pretzel

No one wins with mid or low diff lol

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Cracker should win this fight. His haki is stronger and his durability is just too much for Doffy. Doffy could not cut/sufficiently harm Luffy in G4 because his haki and tensile strength was too much for him. I don’t think Doffy has enough firepower to consistently break though Cracker’s soldiers let alone over 100 of them. Not to mention that WCI Luffy is stronger than Dressrosa Luffy.

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Doffy. More durable and has enough range that he can ignore the cracker soldiers attack Cracker directly. He also has abilities like making string clones, mind controlling via string, and Awakening to turn his surroundings into string.

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@wabanana: Craker's weakest point is his physical durability, since he never tanks any attack. Doffy only has advantage in durability, speedwise cracker easily reacts to fourth gear luffy and cuts him. Doffy can't do anything to luffy. Also, doffy would be fragile as a glass cannon compared to jack, who can tank yonko commander level's attack without haki

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@deepseaking: he doesn’t “easily” react to G4, he just used the soldiers to avoid getting hit. He only got hit once, which one-shot him. Doffy got blitzed initially but then started to react to G4’s attacks. Cracker doesn’t really even have that much firepower, he couldn’t do any lethal damage to Luffy after fighting him for hours, just tire him out. Doffy’s awakening can also change the landscape, and Cracker can’t go airborne so he’ll have difficulty maneuvering around when the entire field is strings. I’m giving Doffy the edge mostly because of durability and versatility.

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Doflamingo high difficulty

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Doflamingo high difficulty. But if he can turn Cracker's biscuit soldiers into strings Doffy mid diffs him. Doffy beats him in all the stat department except speed

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Cracker high diffs

Hes canonly stronger as Doffy and has by far the better feats

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#41  Edited By StealthGrey

Cracker mid-high-diff, logically Big Mom wouldn't send someone that is weaker than Doffy to take care of Boundman

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Doffy wins mid-diff.

Cracker's DF can't compete with the strings. The soldiers are his only gimmick and they can be tied down and stabbed apart.

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#43  Edited By SerpentGod

Bump

Cracker's Stats & Abilities:

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Doffy is more versatile and adaptive

However it is evident Cracker is stronger than him otherwise Big Mom won't send him after luffy

post dressrosa luffy in g4 at first is struggling against his biscuit soldier meanwhile doffy cannot do much against it

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Cracker stomps

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#46  Edited By Edgelord91

Cracker has blatantly better offense and defense. He eventually outlast doffy

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Why do people act like Big Mom sending Cracker after Luffy confirms he is stronger than Doflamingo when Big Mom has no logical reason to know Doflamingo's full strength at the time of his fight with Luffy?

Cracker has greater AP, but Doffy has better versatility. It could go either way and would be a great fight.

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#48 socajunkie  Moderator

Cracker has better AP, better durability and mostly importantly-stronger Haki. His soldiers will wear Doffy down and the only thing preventing this from being a stomp is Doffy’s mobility, flight and awakened strings, however he will eventually get tagged and fatally wounded by Cracker’s sword as the latter was fast enough to tag a faster version of G4BM Luffy, cutting his arm as a result.

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Cracker has better stamina, speed, offense, defense, portrayal and like almost everything while all Doffy has better is Devil Fruit Mastery (Versatility/Mobility) and that's it...

Cracker wins everyday of the week.

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#50  Edited By morgadc1887

Cracker, I've said it before and I'll say it again, people like doffy on CV, so they wank him hard. Doffy has weaker haki, less durability, and lost to an earlier, weaker luffy. If you read this manga/watch this anime you should know by now that every time luffy fights and struggles to beat a "boss" if you will, he comes away with a power amp. He struggled against cracker quite a bit, taking even longer to beat him then to beat doffy. That alone should tell you cracker is above doffy