CP's Battle Of The Week: MCU Thor vs DCEU Superman

6 IG >>> HV. Even I accepts this based on years of MCU hype.

@zepta_pon: my point was Supermans heat vision doesn't look like it's as hot as the suns surface but it is, visuals aren't everything

This makes much much more sense and it looks much much more epic.

@xzone: what healing factor? thor doesn't have a healing factor. I'm pretty sure that was a one time thing. honestly the only argument that could be made for thor was stormbreaker going through the blast. you could argue thor's strength all you want, but he got mercilessly pmmeled by thanos at the beginning, worse than hulk. His endurance? yeah he did the star thing, but he didn't tank anything, it killed him. that' not tanking. again, with that same endurance, he got his ass beat by thanos. superman has strength and speed advantage. the only thing he did was shoot through the beam. wanda managed to backhand and cause thanos grieve with 5 of the 6 stones. it's just made to make cool scenes. I beleie thor right now is the strongest avenger, but what 's happening on these boards is ridiculous. he's not beating supes or thanos people.

@zepta_pon: that was Doomsdays nuke vision, Supermans heat vision when he initially blasted doomsday looked nothing like that

You're not getting the point tho, visuals aren't everything

After all these years of hype the supposedly 6 most powerful artifacts in the MCU can't even produce an energy blast that can do something or anything. It's literally featless.

@zepta_pon: it didn't do anything because of stormbreaker, ryt after that we see the scope of the gauntlets powers by erasing half the life in a galaxy or universe

You're starting to come off as a person who just doesn't want to accept the truth...

They scale SB with a featless unbelievably underwhelming blast.

Thor has had his own healing factor since Ragnarok. And yes, Stormbreaker healed him fully from almost dead and there is zero indication it's a one time thing. The star feat DIDN'T kill him, it did put him near dead, but it did not kill him any more than the nuke killed Superman. He actually took it better than Superman took the nuke, at least Thor was still alive and didn't look like a zombie. We don't see the Thanos vs Thor fight, for all we know it could have been just Thanos or it could have been Thanos and his Black Order people, regardless this is the same Thanos that beat Hulk, in seconds, so bad that Hulk was afraid to even come back out for the rest of the movie. That would not be a low showing by any stretch of the imagination. Wanda didn't cause Thanos anything by a backhand. Wanda used her powers on Thanos and Thanos walked right through it.

@zepta_pon: I'm bored, the blast coming from the infinity gauntlet should be enough and I've alredy stated 5000 times visuals aren't everything, I guess Supermans small ass eye beams you posted in that picture aren't as hot as the Sun's surface because "they look underwhelming"

@rr79: no he didn't he struggled against her blast. and it was flat out stated that thor was dying after the blast. he was held back by random pieces of metal at the beginning of the film. if his strength is on par with supes, he should have easily beaten these people then.

We didn't see that, so no idea how the fight went exactly. We just saw the aftermath. Plus Thanos had the power stone, and his black order. Also, this off screen fight took place pretty much immediately after Thor took on Hela, so he wasn't exactly at his best.

thor. nuff said, I think the best arguments has been made. thor lightning was ragdolling infinity gauntlet thanos , so thor surely gets a shot and it would stun superman giving thor the chance to kill him.

@Planet_Xpress: the point being is that after he lost, he was put in place by those random pieces of metal. it was implied at that point, hulk was the biggest gun. thor didn't use lightning once without the hammer. But my main point is that he got hurt by thanos there, who doesn't match the damage output of supes. the neutron star thing was cool, but in a fight, he doesn't have near that durability.

@jameswayne: a one time thing? Oh please. No healing factor? Dude, you are blind. Hela stabbed Thor multiple times and he regenned... And Thor getting pummeled by Thanos? First off you gotta remember... Thor literally fights hela like eh 1-2 hours before he fights thanos so his endurance is amazing. Secondly, thanos had the power gem (which blew up a ship if u did not notice) and even without it he beat hulk easily. And Thor was up against thanos and his followers (2 of which were fairly strong) so saying Thor losing to them is bad for him is simply not true

1. Thor had just fought hella so really no rest for him

2. 4-5 v 1

3. Power gem

Right, but my point is that happened after Thor took on Hela, the black order, and a power stone powered Thanos. And we didn't see the fight, so how do we know he didn't use lightning? And how do we know Thanos isn't capable of supes level damage? Why would Thor's durability be less in a fight than it was during the forge scene?

@Planet_Xpress: Thor's endurance is quite incredible tbh. We see him in Thor ragnarok see his dad die, fights hela, fights hulk. (Rests a day after getting beat up) Gets off sakaar, fights hela again. Barely gets off Asgard then right after he's found by thanos. He fights thanos with the gem and the black order. Gets the power stone almost shoved through his brain. Then floats in space incapacitated..he's then found by the guardians. After that he takes the heat of a neutron star, and finally takes on a full IG thanos.. All of this happens in probably less than a week (more likely a few days) This is incredible endurance which shows Thor could fight for days on end without rest

@xzone: everything you said is also an assumption. How do you know how much time past or if Thor was not fully rested? Of course he can’t heal instantly from death. They made a point to show it was the hammer. Next movie that won’t happen. Getting stabbed is nothing. Thanos was cut by nebula. And based off how fine the cabal and Thanos looked, besting Thor was easy. Hulk was supposed to be the big gun at that point, end film it was obviously Thor. Thor was held in place by a Thanos lackey using metal. Not once did he use lightning during that scene or after. And hulk fought a power stone Thanos.

Again I’m not saying Thor isn’t the most powerful avenger right now I’m saying none of his candidates must feats put him at Superman level. Feel free to disagree, but if you claim I am assuming things, so are you.

MCU Quicksilver is not even close to the same speed as DCEU Superman. Wonder Woman percieves the world similar to QS if we compare the way they percieve bullets, and Superman is able to blitz her before she can react , and react to Flash, who sees Wonder Woman almost as a statue. Superman is at least a dozen times faster than MCU QS. He can fly from the Arctic to Africa in seconds and catch up to a running Flash.

@jameswayne: It's a very calculated assumption, we see the end of ragnarok thanos ship pulls up in front of Loki and Thor talking.. and unless thanos just sat there for a few days I am correct

Superman easily

I don't understand the point you're trying to make with the lightning. Are you trying to suggest he was unable to summon it?

@Planet_Xpress: yeah exactly. I’m thinking that Russo’s ignored ragniraks whole the power is in you theme. Thor appeared quite weak at the start of the film. At the end he was the biggest bad ass, and clearly got a power up but I also think the Russo’s reneged on everything that came before

@xzone: yeah but you’re assuming that Thor and the rest were in space only a few hours before that.

Thor admitted to losing to Thanos to rocket. He got beat handily. That’s why he went on the hero’s quest after. Loki’s we got a hulk comment was meant to imply at that time hulk was the mightiest avenger. Thor

Goes on his quest and becomes the mightiest avenger. But IMO still can’t beat Superman. I hate the dc films, vastly prefer marvels but I still think the dc power levels are higher. At least supes. Thor wrecks wind room an.

@jameswayne: The Russo brother were not ignoring it, but he was nearly dead at that point

IDK, that's a leap. We didn't see the actual fight, just the aftermath. And the interior of the ship was completely trashed. There's no reason to believe he didn't use lightning in the fight. Or that they just negated a major plot point of the film that immediately preceded IW by removing the ability altogether.

@jameswayne: Did I fall asleep and miss the ending in ragnarok where hulk beat Thor? Or? Hulk was only the last resort Loki called on because he had not been seen yet. Thor saying he lost to thanos.. So what!? He did! He tried to take on thanos with the power gem and his whole team lmao. Superman would probably lose in that situation as well. Thor has been the strongest avenger since ragnarok (possibly AOU)

@xzone: he wasn’t nearly dead at that point. He was just chained up. He was struggling just fine against the restraints. The only time lightning appears is after the hammer is forged.

Superman easily.

I love seeing mods tear apart the stupid and whack ass Thor arguments. It's a great read.

@xzone: in ragnirak I think so too. But at the beginning of iw he wasn’t. The we have a hulk was a call back to avengers one. You are assuming Thor took on Thanos and the whole team at once. Thor simply stated he lost to Thanos. The iw Thor at the start of the film was not the ragnirak Thor. Literally not an ounce of lightning until he held the hammer.

Again, he couldn’t even break out of a few metal bands. By the end he was again. But the Russo’s has him go on a different quest than ragnirak and for the Most part ignored ragnirak developments

The fight was already over by the time the movie started. Thor was on the ground at Thanos' feet when we first saw him. Still not seeing any evidence to suggest he didn't have lightning. The only thing we know is that he lost to a power stone powered Thanos with backup.

@worldofthunder: Guess you disagree with most the vine :p Question: How does Superman overcome Thor's instant healing?

@xzone: His healing isn't instant. In both of the times we saw him get damaged he remained damaged for a good amount of time before he healed, and how is it instantaneous when he healed off-screen both times? Clark is more than fast enough to overcome Thor's slow healing factor.

@worldofthunder: Why would you say the healing is slow? Thor is badly injured and next scene we see he has teleported to wakanda fully healed

@xzone: Since when does Thor have instant healing? He sure didn't heal instantly after getting stomped by Thanos.

THOR

@lunacyde: Read my post please...Thor only has instant healing due to SB. He is almost dead from the neutron star. Next scene he's fully healed with SB in hand. The dwarf even says, "he needs the axe!" It is heavily implied that the axe has incredible healing abilities

LMFAO look at the Poll Results

So, random question, anyone else just waiting for the captain marvel and Thor vs WW and Superman threads? ;)

Superman wins.

@Planet_Xpress: but he was fully conscious and struggling, yet no lightning. Also you have no idea if Thanos needed that backup. Most likely they were just there seeing as how casually Thanos was over Thor. Nothing suggests Thor took on Thanos and everyone else.

superman stomps. Thor wank is even worse now than after AOU

@hatsoffmelo: You know poll results are a popularity contest and in no way indicative of the validity of an argument correct?

That is a fallacy, argumentum ad populum.

Not entirely sure,but I'd favor Thor for a slight majority (due to his lack of speed,however he'd stomp if eaualize speed)

thank you. Im so wanting to cav this guy in post jl superman vs post infinity war thor. Not sure if its allowed though yet.?

@lunacyde: Did you see my reply? About SBs healing abilities?

@hatsoffmelo: Hahahahahahaha, once again the mods shut down the stupidity Thor supporters in this thread are spouting. It's amazing to read through ;)

@supermanforever: Don't bother. Everything the dude says is practically a joke.