" There are 2 versions of him, the older one who leaps hundreds of feet and kinda makes a little grimace after being hit straight in the face by Thor's hammer
and the new version who is on Pre-Crisis levels and owns the Avengers by saying "HAH!"
" Otherwise, Juggernaut takes this since nothing will hurt him. "
*bunch of pics*"
1. Hulk threw Juggernaut. He wasn't hurt from it.
2. PIS. That story wrote Juggernaut's invulnerability as a result of his force field, which Thor disabled with magic. Juggernaut's invulnerable without his force field, the field just keeps all things from touching him. And as stated, that was only done through magic, which Juggernaut is vulnerable to.
3. Juggernaut was tossed into a New God. Means nothing if you ignore the PIS of the Marvel vs DC crossover.
4. Hulk was backed by Celestial tech drawing the power of an entire dimension. That > Juggernaut, and even then, he still wasn't hurt, he was simply overpowered by an entire dimension.
5. WWH had to move out of the way and use Juggernaut's own momentum against him. Otherwise that fight would've gone on forever.
6. That's from a comic based on the X-Men cartoon. Juggernaut wasn't hurt in the cartoon nor was he hurt in the comic. He got tossed away and removed from the battle. You know, the method I said Nefaria can only win by?
7. Juggs got floored by Superman. Your point? No one ever said Juggernaut was incapable of being affected by hits, he's just not hurt by them. If someone strikes with enough force to send him flying, he's going to fly. He just won't be hurt when he gets back up.
@geraldthesloth: "As hard as the purest diamond" Is what has been stated. This is after Nefaria kicked most of the avengers butt. He beat him again through Intanibillity.
His weight via the density increase, is 90 tonnes and rated as diamond hard. He dropped from a mile but would have reached terminal velocity in this time. Suffice it to say, he would have quite hard.
His weight via the density increase, is 90 tonnes and rated as diamond hard. He dropped from a mile but would have reached terminal velocity in this time. Suffice it to say, he would have quite hard. "
" Otherwise, Juggernaut takes this since nothing will hurt him. "
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Most of these scans are meaningless. The Hulk manages to detach the Juggernaut's helmet (which Colossus has done before). Does this show the Juggernaut being injured - no. Thor managed to hurt the Juggernaut because he had used his hammer to fly around the pair, canceling out the Juggernaut's invulnerability. This is why Thor says that he only has 60 seconds to win (as he will revert to his human form). The DC crossover with Wonder Woman is non-cannon. Hulk being augmented with Celestial Technology is a far beyond Nefaria as the Hulk can get stronger than Nefaria even with the addtional boost of the technology. WWH does not really hurt Juggernaut. The fight shown between Gladiator and Juggernaut occurred in a Marvel comic not part of 616 continuity (it's the X-men cartoon comic or something like that). The crossover with Superman is non-cannon.
Now do you have any real evidence to support your claim ?
@Ownerz said:
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" There are 2 versions of him, the older one who leaps hundreds of feet and kinda makes a little grimace after being hit straight in the face by Thor's hammer
and the new version who is on Pre-Crisis levels and owns the Avengers by saying "HAH!"
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Nefaria owns "
I think that Nefaria was absorbing additional ionic energy here to accomplish this. It's even remarked on on a later page in the story.
Nefaria without additional ionic energy is amazingly powerful. Stronger than Thor (classic), more durable than Thor or Wonderman, ability to fly at least at several thousand mph, laser vision and superhuman movement and reaction speed. However he still lacks the ability to hurt the Juggernaut while Juggernaut's blows can hurt him (if they land). Nefaria's best option is to try and win through BFR.
The *ionic* Nefaria is immortal, energy based being with vampiric abilities and was defeated only by a plot device (barley) after a multiple attempts of alot of cross-over heroes... Nefaria wins...(He does not tire cause he is not human anymore, at his weakest he could still tear a big chunk of a mountain)
iam not super familar with him but didn't Doom beat the count i mean Doom beats juggernaut too but it's not a stomp people are acting like juggernaut has no chance
this wont really be a fight. thor was kind of weakened when the juggernaut had him on the defense but even then he was able to make his mystical uru hammer fly around in an arc for 60 sec to do magic shit so that the juggernauts indestructibility wasnt quite total anymore. and then thor was kicking his ass until mjolnir returned to his hand to prevent him from turning back into that big pussy donald blake. but iirc he was not weakened when nefaria caught his hammers head with one hand just by accident like it was nothing. none of that bullshit in avengers/jla where superman did that. i mean like it was really just nothing. nefaria is going to turn the juggernaut into mincemeat. not sure how much that laser thing will help but even if 50x whirlwinds speed isnt much to the flash its still far too fast for the juggernaut. he wont know wat hit him
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