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Students of the greatest evil lords of their worlds

Severus Snape

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Count Dooly, aka Darth Tyranus

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First round movie versions only, no prep, fight in geonosis

Second round, EU dooku (cannon, not legends) they know the basic of their, oponent one week prep, fight in the senate

Third round book snape, legends dooku, one month prep, they know all they need to know about each other, fight in the great hall

All in character, Vic by any mean

And let's just say the spells can be reflected by lightsaber, at least those that are jets of light

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#2 Edited by Richard96 (2138 posts) - - Show Bio

Dooku while yawning

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#3 Posted by StarDance (859 posts) - - Show Bio

Dooku

Dooku

Snape has a shot if he makes Liquid Luck, he can certainly do more with prep than Dooku can with potions alone, still I'm not sure here

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#4 Posted by thesithmaster (2257 posts) - - Show Bio

Round 1) Dooku. He is much faster than Snape, can dodge (not deflect) his spells and maybe some (Expelliarmus, Crucio, Stupefy) can be stopped with Tutaminis. Force Choke ends the life of Severus, so does Force Lightning.

Dooku obliterates Snape with the Force.

One month prep? Liquid Luck is not saving Snape from being killed by the 100,000 droids Dooku is bringing with him.

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#5 Edited by GIliad_ (5410 posts) - - Show Bio

Tyrannus slaps him silly and back too sensible

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#6 Posted by decaf_wizard (11528 posts) - - Show Bio

Dooku spanks him, both rounds.

Its actually somewhat of a fight in the first though

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#7 Edited by ShadowPro (2685 posts) - - Show Bio

@thesithmaster said:

Round 1) Dooku. He is much faster than Snape, can dodge (not deflect) his spells and maybe some (Expelliarmus, Crucio, Stupefy) can be stopped with Tutaminis. Force Choke ends the life of Severus, so does Force Lightning.

Dooku obliterates Snape with the Force.

One month prep? Liquid Luck is not saving Snape from being killed by the 100,000 droids Dooku is bringing with him.

How can he stop them with tutaminis? That is absorbing energy bolts and force lightning, not spells I'm pretty sure choke can't stop him from appariting away from him or using legilimency, nor I see why a while charm shouldn't block the lightning

What are those useless droids going to do? He can transmutate them into rats if he wants, nor stopping him from appariting b his side and take him away

And you all seem to forge the is the only wizard besides yom and his daughter who can fly

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#8 Edited by StarDance (859 posts) - - Show Bio

I don't see Dooku brining 100,000 droids just to take out one guy even with full knowledge

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#9 Posted by thesithmaster (2257 posts) - - Show Bio

@ShadowPro:

He has stopped Force Lightning (his own that was backfired at him.) Said Lightning has caused minor explosions, killed Asajj Ventress, making blood drip out of her eyes, nose and ears. She was wrapped in electrical wires and thrown off a skyscraper. She survived. She is quite durable, and Dooku still managed to completely break, cripple and kill her. She is a Force sensitive. Snape is not. The Chosen One, Anakin, was paralyzed for one minute, Master Sora Bulq incapacitated. He also has killed multiple Kiffar soldiers.

Choke will not stop apparition but Dooku has precog. He can sense where Snape is going, and Force Choke him right when he arrives. Snape won't be expecting it, nor does he have an effective counter

Dooku has Jedi Mind Trick, that can control a person's mind, so Legilimency is at most comparable, or outright inferior to Jedi/Sith TP.

Charms will not deflect Lightning that is capable of the feats I have mentioned.

Surely Snape won't be able to transform 100,000 droids. In a second, he can transform five at best, and Liquid Luck will not stop him from dying after 20,000 laser shots pierce his chest. Even if Dooku only brings 20 or 1,000, Snape will be too distracted and outnumbered.

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#10 Posted by thesithmaster (2257 posts) - - Show Bio

@StarDance:

Yeah. I was just showing what Dooku CAN do WITH prep, and how he crushes Snape even harder with it.

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#11 Posted by Xerolot (2723 posts) - - Show Bio

@stardance: @thesithmaster: He can't make liquid Luck because according to the Hp wiki making Liquid Luck takes 6 months. So Dooku rolfstomps round 3 too.

Well. Dooku wins round 1 and rolfstomps round 2. Overall Snape is one of the most featless and overrated wizards in the Hp universe. Even Hagrid has more combat feats than him

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#12 Posted by StarDance (859 posts) - - Show Bio

@xerolot said:

@stardance: @thesithmaster: He can't make liquid Luck because according to the Hp wiki making Liquid Luck takes 6 months. So Dooku rolfstomps round 3 too.

Well. Dooku wins round 1 and rolfstomps round 2. Overall Snape is one of the most featless and overrated wizards in the Hp universe. Even Hagrid has more combat feats than him

Ah my mistake, I thought it took one month

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#13 Posted by Thoromdil (882 posts) - - Show Bio

Snape all rounds... There are plenty instantenous and unverbal spells that can't be blocked without a wand like Snapes favourite sectumsempra that will one shot Dooku much faster then he can choke him or reach him with his saber. And Snape will easily block with spellshield/dodge with tp anything that could come back at him like lightsaber throw or lightning strike or force push or anything else Dooku can make. Also final round is a stomp, with Snape making liquid luck that basically hax reality in his favour.

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#14 Edited by thesithmaster (2257 posts) - - Show Bio

@Xerolot:

Oh OK. Maybe he has some Liquid Luck in his storage... but if he doesn't he's doomed. SOOOOOO doomed. Dooku can just get a Separatist fleet and bomb the hangar or Arena or whatever. Or get some Geonosians to shoot at Snape.

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#15 Edited by Xerolot (2723 posts) - - Show Bio

@thesithmaster: He doesn't need them. He will kill him without much trouble in 1 vs 1 duel. Everyone knows that besides Thoromdil but he's trolling like always. Even now he said that Snape can block Dookus strikes with spells but I think he forgot that Snape is a arrow timer and Dooku move faster than human eye can see.

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#16 Posted by thesithmaster (2257 posts) - - Show Bio

@Xerolot:

Yes, I know he doesn't need them to beat Snape, but with prep he can do that. With prep Snape can round up some Death Eaters but those are fodder against Dooku, unless they're not any noname and known characters such as Lucius Malfoy, Bellatrix Lestrange.

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#17 Posted by Xerolot (2723 posts) - - Show Bio

@thesithmaster: From proficient death eathers Dolohov and Bellatrix are the only ones who are not completely fodder. But even if he will bring entire death eathers army including Voldemort himself they will get blitzed to hell by legends Dooku.

You know his feats. How hp wizards who are arrow timers and it was stated by author of the books herself that "normal person with a gun would beat most of the wizards" will beat Dooku who was moving at blur speeds when he was twelve and was toying with Grievous in a fight. Grievous speeds feats:

Grievous moves so swiftly he appears to teleport.

Grievous can throw blows faster than the eye can see, such that his lightsaber and fists would seem to vanish from existence. No human being can move remotely as fast as him

Grievous ramps up the rate of his strikes from twelve strikes per second to twenty strikes per second

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#19 Posted by SirDrProfessor (1643 posts) - - Show Bio

Dooku everytime

Round 1: Force Choke

Round 2: Force Choke or blitz

Round 3: Force Choke or blitz or CIS orbital bombardment

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#20 Posted by AlexTheBoss (9083 posts) - - Show Bio

Dooku. Movie Dooku wins in a good fight, the other versions stomp.

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#21 Posted by Slayedigneel (1254 posts) - - Show Bio

Dooku.

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@thesithmaster said:

@ShadowPro:

He has stopped Force Lightning (his own that was backfired at him.) Said Lightning has caused minor explosions, killed Asajj Ventress, making blood drip out of her eyes, nose and ears. She was wrapped in electrical wires and thrown off a skyscraper. She survived. She is quite durable, and Dooku still managed to completely break, cripple and kill her. She is a Force sensitive. Snape is not. The Chosen One, Anakin, was paralyzed for one minute, Master Sora Bulq incapacitated. He also has killed multiple Kiffar soldiers.

Choke will not stop apparition but Dooku has precog. He can sense where Snape is going, and Force Choke him right when he arrives. Snape won't be expecting it, nor does he have an effective counter

Dooku has Jedi Mind Trick, that can control a person's mind, so Legilimency is at most comparable, or outright inferior to Jedi/Sith TP.

Charms will not deflect Lightning that is capable of the feats I have mentioned.

Surely Snape won't be able to transform 100,000 droids. In a second, he can transform five at best, and Liquid Luck will not stop him from dying after 20,000 laser shots pierce his chest. Even if Dooku only brings 20 or 1,000, Snape will be too distracted and outnumbered.

And force lightning are just like spells! Of course. I forgot there is a time when a lightning had then same effect as a killing curse norm the sectum sempra

Being force blind is a non factor, specially with powers like his, even man dalmatians fight them

An akin at that time wasn't particularly stronger than any Padawan, hell being the chosen one doesn't make him the most powerful — it meant that he will bring balance to the force through his actions not his powers

Right, because the force precog is just that accurate, and of course Snape would fall with the same trick twice

Mind tricks can in no way be compared to legilimency is more powerful and invasive, mind tricks affect weak minded people, this can be only encountered with occlumency which is hard to master only a STRONG MINDED person can block

And I'm pretty sure that the shield charm can block a lightning, specially from a wizard like him, not to mention that he can use other things to block it if not simply dodge it with teleportion or flight

I'm sure a wizard likehim can use and controll fiendfyre to smite them all. Plus, I don't see see how could the blast get through the shield charm, nor why would snape waste time with them when he can appear in front of Dooku or fly to where is is hiding and fight him, also is Dooku really the kind of character that wastes his droids like that forma single opponent? Doubt the emperor would allow him or his ego. Also in the castle technology doesn't work so the droids would be useless (implied that only the saber is working for the sake of the battle)

Besides there is also the disillusionment charm that camouflages him

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#24 Posted by thesithmaster (2257 posts) - - Show Bio

@ShadowPro:

Force Lightning is >Crucio, Expelliamus, Stupefy and many common HP spells. Only Avada Kedavra, Sectumsempra and a few others are >Force Lightning.

Force blind? What is that? And man dalmatians?

Yes, Anakin was stronger than most Padawans AND Jedi Knights. Maybe even some Masters. Anakin by this time was much faster than his master, considering Anakin was a blur to Kenobi seven years before AOTC. He also lasted longer than Kenobi against Dooku. Kenobi lasted forty seconds, and Dooku was toying with him. Anakin lasted fifty-three against a non-toying Dooku, who never taunted Anakin in the fight (and in the movie, never actually spoke. Only in the initial bladelock.) Kenobi was being verbally humiliated during by Dooku.

Snape wouldn't fall for the same trick twice... because when he falls for it once, his windpipe and his life are doomed.

Mind Tricks are something Jedi do. Dooku is a Sith, and Sith have more advanced mind control techniques than Jedi (the Sith have more advanced techniques overall.) The great Snape got his mind probed by Harry who was not even close to master Legilimency. Dooku's TP>>>>Harry's TP. Also, in Star Wars, have you realized that the only humans who can resist Mind Tricks are Jedi or elite bodyguards heavily trained to do so? Toydarians, Hutts, Duros and quite a few alien species have developed defenses against Mind Tricks because they have physical traits quite beyond a human's (the case with most aliens in SW.) Although a TP fight is a well-fought one, I can see a case for Dooku.

What has a shield charm blocked (other than spells, which don't count because the Shield Charm is made for the single purpose of countering said spells) that could make it block Force Lightning? Also, Snape won't be able to Apparate around Dooku indefinitely, as I mentioned. This is a 1v1, and it is unlikely to happen since HP 1v1s rarely if at all feature people Apparating around the battlefield randomly.

Fiendfyre? Destroy one hundred droids at once? Don't think so. Even if he only takes 4 MagnaGuards, Snape will be so concentrated destroying the droids that Dooku uses the Dark Side to cloak his signature in the Force and decapitate Snape from behind.

I'm not saying that Dooku would, I'm just saying that giving Dooku prep is unfair because he has tons of resources more powerful than Snape's. The Emperor wouldn't care, they have millions and millions of droids, he could care less about droids or what battles Dooku fights. As long as it keeps the war going on. More droids can be manufactured.

Does the Magic counter all types of technology? Or only Earth Muggle technology? Even if it counters technology, it certainly won't counter a Separatist fleet releasing an orbital bombardment onto Hogwarts if Dooku so wishes (with prep.) Sabers are powered with Kyber Crystals, which are not technological, so it will work. In a fair 1v1, details like that should not be taken into account because that would be making it unfair. Even without the saber, Dooku fries Snape and leaves.

Cheap magic won't work on a legendary Force sensitive. Dark Side cloaking abilities should work, though.

There is no way Snape can win this. Unless, of course, this is ROTS Dooku after the fight (when he has no hands.)

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#25 Edited by PenguinLover (352 posts) - - Show Bio

Dooku should win all rounds. Round 1 may be quite tough for him, but he definitely wins rounds 2 and 3, unless of course Snape manages to get Voldemort and the other Death Eaters to help him, in which case Dooku MAY lose. However, considering Dooku's abilities he most likely would still win.

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#26 Posted by Amonfire1776 (557 posts) - - Show Bio

Dooku every time...