CM, Shazam, Fat Thor
random encounter
@immoralimmortal: Yes, and holistically due to Thor and SB. Carol just amps DD until he kills them all.
Apart from bfr, DD stomps. All of their long range attacks would amp him, they don't have the strength to put him down, and stormbreaker doesn't have the feats to pierce him.
Wonder Woman's Sword cut him and her sword couldn't even pierce Stephen Wolf who was hurt by parademons
Apart from bfr, DD stomps. All of their long range attacks would amp him, they don't have the strength to put him down, and stormbreaker doesn't have the feats to pierce him.
Wonder Woman's Sword cut him and her sword couldn't even pierce Stephen Wolf who was hurt by parademons
That's a feat for his armor (which did get pierced by WW's sword at one point.) Why did people use that as an argument? If her sword cut something extremely durable, but couldn't cut something else, clearly that something else is more durable.
@boc: Pddft if Didn't can slice him SB easily will do so. He's got horrible slashing resistance
Thor or carol solo and Movie shazam getsaid by dr sivana just magic only can hurt shazam so doomsday no have magic he can't kill shazam.
Stalemate between doomsday and shazam.
Thor BFR's via Bifrost
Where was that against Thanos?
Thor or carol solo and Movie shazam getsaid by dr sivana just magic only can hurt shazam so doomsday no have magic he can't kill shazam.
Stalemate between doomsday and shazam.
@boc: @petey_is_spidey: @batman242: Shazam still very faster and can't get hurt by people no have magic.
@lan_fan: The first time Thor had Stormbreaker Thanos had all six gems and could teleport so bifrost BFR would have been useless
Second time Thor couldn't do it because he wanted to kill Thanos to stop the risk of Thanos getting the IG later on, in this case Thor could bfr Doomsday because Doomsday is mindless. Thor might die or not depending how well his Bifrost bridge works, we do know it can teleport other people as seen when he brings Groot and Rocket with him to Wakanda.
If he was more experienced, Shazam could have won due to the magical nature of his powers. Ironically, Thor and Carol, the two more formidable opponents, will be non-factors as DD will just get amped from anything they throw at him until he's powerful enough to beat them both.
@contingency: Not talking about the first fight, I'm talking about Endgame, of course. What's the big deal in BFR'ing Thanos to empty space, or sun where he'd not survive? Fat Thor is in fact a dumb brute. He didn't use ANY of his versatility against Thanos of all people. Not even those that he commonly used in the past like lightning cloak, flight, or weather manipulation... Let alone doing something that he's never done before, BFR'ing someone like that.
@lan_fan: I think it's because he was afraid of fighting Thanos alone in Endgame, Thor was depressed and mentally scarred by Thanos. Also there could be a sort of charge up time for the Bifrost which Thanos would prevent.
@contingency: Well, if he fights smart like you're assuming, he could solo with BFR, but if he fought like he did against Thanos, he'd definitely lose. I think we can agree on that.
@lan_fan: I can agree with that, just remember that Endgame Thor was so scared of Thanos that he didn't want to face him until back up arrived (even with Mjolner and Stormbreaker)
This is different from Infinity War Thor who was ready to solo him.
@contingency: Yep, there's a reason they had to nerf Thor in Endgame.
@immoralimmortal: CM from what we’ve seen so far is a bit cocky, so she’ll try to blast him and keep amping him up.
Shazam is inexperienced, so he will likely do the same as Carol.
Thor could take him out, but he’s not the most intelligent fighter. Maybe with all he lost in Endgame he fights wiser now. He’d be deciding factor and only hope.
@boc: do you really steppenwolf tanking a nuke?
Ot team loses
@boc: do you really steppenwolf tanking a nuke?
Ot team loses
I'm pretty sure I've seen people debunk this several times (not to you specifically.)
1. She never got a full swing like she did on DD, which would generate insanely more force.
2. She did end up cutting sw in their final battle: https://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/gen-discussion-1/wonder-woman-did-cut-sw-2014974/
3. Even if she were incapable of cutting the armor, it would be a feat for the armor don't you think? After all, it's new god armor or something like that. So it may be able to withstand a nuke, not SW himself.
Stormbreaker is an insanely good weapon but people hype it up because it pierced Thanos because of a very good throw from Thor. I do think it could pierce DD if he got a really good swing or throw. Other than that it may not do a ton.
The problem with this team is they all utilize energu attacks. They would end up making him stronger. This would lead to their defeat.
@boc: do you really steppenwolf tanking a nuke?
Ot team loses
I'm pretty sure I've seen people debunk this several times (not to you specifically.)
1. She never got a full swing like she did on DD, which would generate insanely more force.
she did get one for the leg
2. She did end up cutting sw in their final battle:
a cut like that won't even bother me,let alone a millennia old new gid
https://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/gen-discussion-1/wonder-woman-did-cut-sw-2014974/
3. Even if she were incapable of cutting the armor, it would be a feat for the armor don't you think? After all, it's new god armor or something like that. So it may be able to withstand a nuke, not SW himself.
i don't think that. DD had more durability feats than SW so the sword failing to cut him is an anti feat for the sword
she did get one for the leg
Are you referring to her 1 on 1 with SW? That wasn't a full swing. She was hanging off a ledge with one hand and smacked his boot with the sword. She was completely off balance making it nearly impossible to generate enough force. It would need to work like a lightsaber to cut him there. Compare that to her standing on two feet and getting a full swing with two hands (like she did with DD.)
a cut like that won't even bother me,let alone a millennia old new gid
The pain it caused is irrelevant. The claim was that she was incapable of cutting his armor, and I pointed out that she did.
i don't think that. DD had more durability feats than SW so the sword failing to cut him is an anti feat for the sword
That doesn't make much sense. Imagine character x makes a first appearance and the only thing he does is outstrength MCU Hulk, then never appears on screen again. Are we to assume that DCEU Batman is stronger than character x because he has "more feats"?
Carol is like the worst person to be fighting Doomsday
yup.
but still, Stormbreaker solos
@boc: I concede
@darkthunder: Her swing on DD's leg was intentionally to cut his hamstring and bring him to his knees. She didnt try to dismember his leg.
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