Could NWH spiderman move in JL statue scene.

@thevamphunter: Spiderman faster than wonder woman , So superman can't statue him.

@grandmasterfail: Based on what exactly?

Gets statued

Assuming Peter was actively moving yes. Flash didn't statue a batarang. The car was kind of statued but that's like sub 15 mph or something.

Yup

Nope

easily

He should be able to

He can move but not as fast as Flash ⚡️ < 💡

Parker and Diana are around the same speed so yeah he gets statued.

He would move, but Superman wouldn't.

easily

Nope

Yes.

Yes.

Still yes/

Now spiderman faster than wonder woman , so he should can move.

No.

Yes. He is clearly fast enough to do so. Way faster than WW. Anybody saying no is delusional/clearly biased (why do they say no but never back it up…)

Yeah, Superman is not faster than lightning.

Yes

Probably not

I mean... wasn't he moving nearly at the same speed as the Flash in that sequence? Flash stated that he always runs just under lightspeed to avoid altering time. Shouldn't that put Superman at LS as well?

@boutatakeanl: "at LS" ?

Flash said when he "approach" the speed of light , crazy things happen to time.. and it didn't in the JL fight , so obviously they weren't going near the speed of light , and superman had no reason to hold back his speed there..so i guess that would be his limit , lesser than the speed of light. ,(consistent with him not being able to react to Motherbox explosion while flash could..

Yes , spiderman can move in that scene , but not as much as flash or superman did perphaps..

Ah sorry, I keep forgetting Snydercut isn't canon. I would like the explanation, but since Snydercut isn't being discussed here, that would probably derail the thread. Thanks for the clarification though :D

Well... he had to go far faster than lightspeed to actually start affecting time, but I digress.

Spiderman isn't moving in that scene where Barry is saving Iris. Flash dug through the road trying to break his speed gathered from a short skip, Spiderman isn't replicating that speed wise and doesn't even come close to it.

This alone shows Flash is laughably superior than Spiderman when it comes to his CASUAL operating speed. The question is was he moving that fast against Superman and I see no reason why he wasn't because he was actually fearing for his life.

Spiderman wank needs to stop

@boutatakeanl: yes , when he had to produce huge charge , he went LS , or near it , and we saw motherbox being lifted up..as in time reversing..

But when he wanted to reverse the destruction of his whole planet..he went mftl..

No Wonder Woman also reacted to lighting and she actually reacted to light and even she was statued Peter js statued as well

@ready_4_madness: I just wanted to say , when she was Swinging , it's tip had went way past her in an instant..that tip was moving at lightning speed , and it went way past her..

So I don't think that specific feat gives her lightning speed..(not lowballing)

I don’t think Diana was truly statued personally .. I think she was falling(thrown really) and just moving at that speed,

? ??

I know she swings on lightning , she showed it On-screen anyway..

But , now look yourself

lightning lasts for microseconds , and seeing that lightning for this long is great , but it doesn't require lightning speed.. look how fast the tip of the lightning moves there, the tip doesn't even last 1/2 second in WW's perception..it's very much faster than her,

and now compare it with this:

the tip of it is literally moving in slowmotion just like the spiders, it's simple fax spiey is way way faster than WW if he wants to.

No i don't think so , in real time Lightning won't last as long as it did in that scene .. so it's got to be in WW's perpective right?

No

So..? that doesn't increase her speed all of a sudden..she covered much more distance at a much slower speed .

There's two factors affecting speed, distance and "Time" , You didn't consider time there..

by that logic you mentioned ,

X runs 50 metres in ten seconds , Y runs 45 metres in 2 seconds..

and X would be faster than Y ?

Flash was literally over a mile away and Superman was within 10 feet... Not a fair comparison at all.

@crunch5481: hmm..that's a point i didn't actually consider tbh . But still flash is faster than superman right?

Define "move" - time isn't frozen completely so anything that was moving will still move. It's about how much. Spiderman won't be able to move much, and would be completely outclassed by either Superman or Flash if they so wished. They're fast, and great at avoiding projectiles but a conscious person with superspeed greater than said projectiles is a different story.