Could EoS Naruto React To This?

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Posted by immoralimmortal (1490 posts) 28 days, 23 hours ago

Poll: Could EoS Naruto React To This? (89 votes)

yes, casually 4%
it requires some effort on his part but he dodges it 11%
naruto gets his arm blown off as he narrowly avoids a full-on blast to the face 15%
naruto can't react and gets his head blown off 70%

just asking if he can react to Goku's instant kamehameha (and dodge it), not if he can survive it

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#1 Posted by EmperorMode (699 posts) - - Show Bio

So it's kinda like sasuke's chidori tele-blitz? He gets hit.

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#2 Posted by Wot_m8 (972 posts) - - Show Bio

Instant Teleportation is literally instant according to Official translations. So... no.

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#3 Posted by LeoTheGreatest (5272 posts) - - Show Bio

Exactly what happened to Cell happens to Naruto except Naruto won’t be regenerating.

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#4 Posted by Oreoghoul (2110 posts) - - Show Bio

No. Sasuke basically did the same thing (teleport behind and then attacked) and Naruto couldn’t dodge it.

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#5 Posted by MattyBoi (1860 posts) - - Show Bio

Nope. Naruto's best reaction feat was FTL, even saiyan saga piccolo could make FTL beams. Plus he failed to react to when sasuke tp'd behind him

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#6 Posted by KingFrieza (1565 posts) - - Show Bio

Some people can actually come to such a terrible conclusion as naruto dodging?

He failed to react against teleblitz attacks, this one is even faster, and much larger, he dies every time.

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#7 Edited by Token1300 (532 posts) - - Show Bio

Goku’s attack speed is arguably LS post zenkai in base against Frieza. Naruto or anyone in his first has no way of reacting to this.

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#8 Edited by JuzaCloud (3807 posts) - - Show Bio

@token1300 said:

Goku’s attack speed is arguably LS post zenkai in base against Frieza. Naruto or anyone in his first has no way of reacting to this.

You're correct. In my boredom, I've done the research, which is simplistic. It's clear that Toriyama specifically had Goku Kaioken x10 to escape the explosion. This is scientifically Light speed+

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the initial detonation velocity of an atomic bomb's shockwave. Not the shockwave's propagation speed, but the moment of detonation before it loses any inertia.

A regular explosion is a fuel/air event that happens fast. Up to 15,000 feet per second.

A nuclear chain reaction is an atomic event, neutrons propagate in fission at 20,000 to 50,000 kilometers per second. It takes about 82 iteration of neutron emission for fission to complete in the bomb ( meaning that it blows apart at that point.) At 82 or so iterations the core reaches hundreds of millions of degrees and ionizes into insanely hot plasma. For a brief moment, (nanoseconds) that’s the explosion. Then the light and gamma come out. That’s at the speed of light, more or less. Roughly 300,000,000 kilometers per second. That’s the initial explosion, and the damage done by that is pretty intense. It fries everything close into cinders.

THEN the heat comes into contact with the atmosphere from the fissioned core. Air is suddenly heated to insane temps and ionizes and expands. How fast does that happen? Wow. For all practical purposes a huge heat sink, the atmosphere, suddenly ( nanoseconds) has a insanely hot force created in it. Naturally it sucks the heat up, which results in the second shock wave. The first is light and gamma, the second is heat and air. The speed of that depends on the size of the bomb. The heat sink is constant.

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#9 Posted by deactivated-5d28ad9ebec9c (375 posts) - - Show Bio

He'd react to it just fine despite being distracted by Sasuke's fireball he still reacted to Sasuke's teleblitz and turned to face him, Goku teleporting in front of him would allow Naruto to dodge easily not to mention Adult Naruto scales to Fused Momoshiki who reacted (and bodied) Sasuke's teleblitz easily.

and there's a lot of FTL scaling i could go into for the War Arc but i couldn't be arsed to go over it here, so I'll just say he's solidly FTL with precognition, danger sense and spacial awareness he'd be able to avoid this.

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#10 Posted by LambSauce (1078 posts) - - Show Bio

@gachamaniscool:

Sasuke's fireball is no excuse considering it was already extinguished before Naruto had a window of timeframe to turn around and come to conclusion that Sasuke had teleported behind him. Thus he could have reacted to it, but he couldn't.

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#11 Posted by FlyingThunderGod (16 posts) - - Show Bio

@lambsauce: He did react and it was from behind. He was also dealing with Sasuke's other attacks. If these where equal stats Sasuke's attack would be much harder to dodge.

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#12 Posted by Scythenger (571 posts) - - Show Bio

I don't even think he could react to piccolo's moon destroying blast which had no teleportation involved in it. He definitely gets absolutely destroyed and erased from existence by the attack in the op though.

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#13 Posted by SkySanji (5593 posts) - - Show Bio

Exactly what happened to Cell happens to Naruto except Naruto won’t be regenerating.

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#15 Posted by RandomGuy287 (2094 posts) - - Show Bio

@skysanji said:
@leothegreatest said:

Exactly what happened to Cell happens to Naruto except Naruto won’t be regenerating.

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#16 Posted by Gaoron (9555 posts) - - Show Bio

I don't even think he could react to piccolo's moon destroying blast which had no teleportation involved in it. He definitely gets absolutely destroyed and erased from existence by the attack in the op though.

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#17 Posted by Streak619 (8190 posts) - - Show Bio

Depends on how fast Goku's Kamehameha is.

Which is anything but quantifiable

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#19 Posted by FaradaySloth (11229 posts) - - Show Bio
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#20 Posted by BrainDrain (949 posts) - - Show Bio

Working on a DBZ speed thread as we speak, these calcs,assumptions and everyone being MFTL is going to stop.

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#21 Posted by Xanman2000 (360 posts) - - Show Bio

Naruto gets vaporized. He isn't reacting to this at all.

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#22 Posted by FlyingThunderGod (16 posts) - - Show Bio

@scythenger: Naruto would clap that Piccolo.

His "moon busting" is a massive outlier.

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#23 Posted by WorldofRuin6 (3977 posts) - - Show Bio

Nah dawg.

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#24 Posted by UltimateSage (4029 posts) - - Show Bio

Nope

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#25 Posted by Xanman2000 (360 posts) - - Show Bio

@scythenger: Naruto would clap that Piccolo.

His "moon busting" is a massive outlier.

No, it's not. The only moon busting outlier is roshis.

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#26 Posted by FlyingThunderGod (16 posts) - - Show Bio

@xanman2000: Both are outliers as far as I'm concerned.

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#27 Posted by BrainDrain (949 posts) - - Show Bio

I also doubt Nardo is just going to sit there and look surprised like Cell, he could at least attempt to break his stance and redirect it....like Cell himself later did.

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#28 Posted by Xanman2000 (360 posts) - - Show Bio

I also doubt Nardo is just going to sit there and look surprised like Cell, he could at least attempt to break his stance and redirect it....like Cell himself later did.

Goku and cells speed >>> Naruto.

He gets vaporized lmao

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#29 Posted by BrainDrain (949 posts) - - Show Bio
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#30 Posted by cKarma (289 posts) - - Show Bio

@braindrain: Just like the Z fighters Naruto wouldn’t even be able to see Goku or Cell fight. Naruto has one arguably lightspeed feat smh lol.

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#31 Posted by BrainDrain (949 posts) - - Show Bio

@ckarma said:

@braindrain: Just like the Z fighters Naruto wouldn’t even be able to see Goku or Cell fight. Naruto has one arguably lightspeed feat smh lol.

And none of the Z fighters have any? See the problem there? The double standards being applied for this series is hilarious.

Just like how were supposed to ignore all their DC feats because they're 'supposed' to be able to bust planets with ease. Laughable.

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#32 Posted by cKarma (289 posts) - - Show Bio

@braindrain: Z fighters would all be LS or relativistic on a horrendous lowball.

Nobodies ignoring anything, Naruto has too many anti-feats to even argue your interpretations of their high end feats. DB Is way more consistent.

Also lol @ Naruto not going to stand there, king of standing there.

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#33 Posted by Rac95 (5350 posts) - - Show Bio

Depends on how fast Goku's Kamehameha is.

Which is anything but quantifiable

I think the only somewhat "logical" idea would be a comparison with weaker Ki-Blasts, but even that would be as shaky as a Jenga Tower with only one block as basis

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#34 Posted by cKarma (289 posts) - - Show Bio

@rac95: tfw an infinitely more powerful ki blast against an infinitely more powerful character being compared to a blast that’s literally millions times weaker is “shaky”

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#35 Posted by Rac95 (5350 posts) - - Show Bio

@ckarma: Yeah, but strength doesn't necessarily mean speed

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#36 Posted by TakenStew22 (3251 posts) - - Show Bio

Goku should easily be atleast light speed or above at this point in the series and IIRC Naruto has only one LS feat. He dies.

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#37 Posted by eri123 (3132 posts) - - Show Bio

No.

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#38 Posted by cKarma (289 posts) - - Show Bio

@rac95: Do I have to post the Vegeta vs Cui scan where he says speed increases along with strength?

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#39 Posted by MoneyyJunee (1124 posts) - - Show Bio

Hell no

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#40 Edited by deactivated-5d28ad9ebec9c (375 posts) - - Show Bio

@lambsauce said:

@gachamaniscool:

Sasuke's fireball is no excuse considering it was already extinguished before Naruto had a window of timeframe to turn around and come to conclusion that Sasuke had teleported behind him. Thus he could have reacted to it, but he couldn't.

The fireball is literally still in Naruto's hand as Sasuke teleported behind him you can even see the flames above his head.

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So 1) the fireball was not extinguished that is literally not backed up by anything 2) Naruto was still distracted and managed to react to instant Teleportation (he knew Sasuke was behind him instantly) and 3) doesn't change my argument for Adult Naruto.

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#41 Edited by Rac95 (5350 posts) - - Show Bio

@ckarma said:

@rac95: Do I have to post the Vegeta vs Cui scan where he says speed increases along with strength?

No, because it doesn't solve the problem. Speed and Strength may be connected, but this doesn't connect to energy attacks

EDIT: I am not doubting that Naruto would take the hit fully in the face, it is just more difficult to scale the speed of energy compared to physical speed

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#42 Edited by Gaoron (9555 posts) - - Show Bio

"One LS feat"

Yeah and it's anime only feat that never happened in the manga and needs hyperbolic databooks to prove it's LS on top of it. Naruto's speed on this site is next level wanking and fanboyism.

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#43 Edited by deactivated-5d28ad9ebec9c (375 posts) - - Show Bio

@takenstew22 said:

Goku should easily be atleast light speed or above at this point in the series and IIRC Naruto has only one LS feat. He dies.

Laser Circus is stated to be made up of Light-Rays which bare in mind the only other Storm Release technique in the series is stated to be Light Speed aka. Light Fang.

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Light Fang;

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Kinkaku and Ginkaku managed to react to said Light Beams before they got hit by them;

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This means Darui, Kinkaku and Ginkaku have easily Relatvistic reaction speed which is consistent with the fact the Raikage is stated to have a Relativistic+ attack;

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Which is consistent with the fact that he was able to tank light-speed travel;

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Which is also consistent with the fact that Edo Madara (and Muu) is able to react to the heavenly transfer technique which teleports objects at Light-Speed before it was finished (side note he also reacted to the Raikage's blitz straight after this).

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Light-Speed isn't even touching Naruto past KCM 2.

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#44 Posted by TakenStew22 (3251 posts) - - Show Bio

@gaoron said:

"One LS feat"

Yeah and it's anime only feat that never happened in the manga and needs hyperbolic databooks to prove it's LS on top of it. Naruto's speed on this site is next level wanking and fanboyism.

Alot of people like to combine anime and manga feats (including me), so I assumed that.

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#45 Posted by DemonGod_PABLO (1781 posts) - - Show Bio

Namek saga characters have better speed feats than naruto let alone cell saga characters....

one of Frieza's death beams statued multiple relativistic tier characters from a completely different island. They couldn't even react until after the explosion.

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Base goku reacted to that same death beam except he blocked multiple death beams with 1 hand

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#46 Posted by TOPAZZZ (550 posts) - - Show Bio

no he gets insta blitzed

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#47 Posted by ourmanuel (12636 posts) - - Show Bio

This bait is even weaker than Streak’s

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@lambsauce said:

@gachamaniscool:

Sasuke's fireball is no excuse considering it was already extinguished before Naruto had a window of timeframe to turn around and come to conclusion that Sasuke had teleported behind him. Thus he could have reacted to it, but he couldn't.

The fireball is literally still in Naruto's hand as Sasuke teleported behind him you can even see the flames above his head.

So 1) the fireball was not extinguished that is literally not backed up by anything 2) Naruto was still distracted and managed to react to instant Teleportation (he knew Sasuke was behind him instantly) and 3) doesn't change my argument for Adult Naruto.

There is no "reaction" here, he just knew Sasuke was behind him sure but you are acting like Sasuke moving his hand to hit Naruto was LS or something LMAO.

You also keep forgetting that Chidori makes a sound so when Sasuke got behind him, he could hear the chidori.

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#49 Posted by FullMetalEmprah (5288 posts) - - Show Bio

Naruto dies, this Goku is way too fast for him.

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#50 Posted by deactivated-5d28ad9ebec9c (375 posts) - - Show Bio

@gachamaniscool said:
@lambsauce said:

@gachamaniscool:

Sasuke's fireball is no excuse considering it was already extinguished before Naruto had a window of timeframe to turn around and come to conclusion that Sasuke had teleported behind him. Thus he could have reacted to it, but he couldn't.

The fireball is literally still in Naruto's hand as Sasuke teleported behind him you can even see the flames above his head.

So 1) the fireball was not extinguished that is literally not backed up by anything 2) Naruto was still distracted and managed to react to instant Teleportation (he knew Sasuke was behind him instantly) and 3) doesn't change my argument for Adult Naruto.

There is no "reaction" here, he just knew Sasuke was behind him sure but you are acting like Sasuke moving his hand to hit Naruto was LS or something LMAO.

Reacting isn't a reaction now great nice to know, he reacted to Sasuke while hindered by the fireball and managed to turn towards him before he was even hit just stating the facts, Technically FTL but semantics.

You also keep forgetting that Chidori makes a sound so when Sasuke got behind him, he could hear the chidori.

^Suggesting that Sasuke isn't faster than sound and keenly ignoring the fact that Chidori isn't even in Sasuke's hand in the panel where Naruto is aware of his presence amazing