Could DCEU Adapted Zodd Beat This Team?

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Poll Could DCEU Adapted Zodd Beat This Team? (38 votes)

yes, neg diff 29%
yes, mid diff 24%
zodd wins with high difficulty 11%
zodd loses 37%

EG versions of tony, pepper & rhoadey + house party protocol for support

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EG Tony would beat Zod fairly easy. Tony would beat Superman so a weaker Kryptonian wouldn't be a problem

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Zod Wins. Team is to slow.

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Zod wins

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he could win against the unmanned iron legion but he loses if they're along with those EG trio

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I like how 3 of the options are “Zod wins”

OT: Tony solos.

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Yeah, Zod has this. EG Tony was weirdly underwhelming. Got one shotted by Thor. House party protocol are all fodders.

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@rbt: that's a feat for Thor who anyway his a lot harder than any kryptonian

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@thanosii said:

@rbt: that's a feat for Thor who anyway his a lot harder than any kryptonian

Thor does hit harder than any DCEU Kryptonian, true. I never claimed that Zod would one shot Tony, did I?

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#10  Edited By Baalhaddad

MCU wank has reached a new level "iron man would beat superman" lmfao

I also like when one mcu fan says something absurd all the others that follow agree lmfao

OT: Zod stomps, barring IM every suit is getting oneshotted(including war machine) and as i said in other thor threads comparing damaging leviathans is meaningless since kryptonians>>>>>> leviathans in durability hurting them means nothing so pepper is irrelevant but still lmfao at the ones above who said iron man solos

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The Iron Man 3 Iron Legion are non-factors. EG Tony could probably solo but if he doesn't then the addition of Pepper should secure the win.

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@byondeon said:

EG Tony would beat Zod fairly easy. Tony would beat Superman so a weaker Kryptonian wouldn't be a problem

Cocaine is a hell of a drug

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Has Tony always been this strong? I'm surprised to see some are saying he alone can beat Zod.

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@byondeon said:

EG Tony would beat Zod fairly easy. Tony would beat Superman so a weaker Kryptonian wouldn't be a problem

Cocaine is a hell of a drug

My thoughts exactly.

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@byondeon said:

EG Tony would beat Zod fairly easy. Tony would beat Superman so a weaker Kryptonian wouldn't be a problem

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@cykrill said:
@baalhaddad said:
@byondeon said:

EG Tony would beat Zod fairly easy. Tony would beat Superman so a weaker Kryptonian wouldn't be a problem

Cocaine is a hell of a drug

My thoughts exactly.

EG Tony is more durable and way too much offensive capabilities for a Kryptonian.

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Ironman snap his neck , zod die agains.

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How could any of the suits ko adapted Zod? With punches? Energy beams? Those were uneffectively thrown at him by Superman, leading to far greater destruction than IM armors have ever created

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@byondeon said:

EG Tony would beat Zod fairly easy. Tony would beat Superman so a weaker Kryptonian wouldn't be a problem

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Superman haven't any feats that would make him actually a threat to Iron Man.

You should really look at the movies, before actually posting on a thread where you are unfamiliar with the characters.

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#23  Edited By Eredin12

If only Tony had something as strong as a cruise missile in his arsenal....

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@baalhaddad said:

MCU wank has reached a new level "iron man would beat superman" lmfao

I also like when one mcu fan says something absurd all the others that follow agree lmfao

OT: Zod stomps, barring IM every suit is getting oneshotted(including war machine) and as i said in other thor threads comparing damaging leviathans is meaningless since kryptonians>>>>>> leviathans in durability hurting them means nothing so pepper is irrelevant but still lmfao at the ones above who said iron man solos

That's weird Zack Snyder would say that and proceed to directly contradict himself in his own movie. Given the fact that Superman's bullrushes, the WE beam and this feat (which Zod scales to) are far stronger than a cruise missile;

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A Kryptonians already tanked a cruise missile, directly but for their logic, the DC character will always lose because scripts and interviews are better than actual feats due to liking their movies more.

Y'know fanboys who believe that someone this less harder than bullets or is missile level, just good for a few laughs. Not for a debate.

I'm not surprised, people on this site think that LOTR is close to The Godfather or that Infinity War is comparable to Zodiac... bunch of people living under a rock.

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Iron Man might solo

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@eredin12 said:

If only Tony had something as strong as a cruise missile in his arsenal....

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^^^

Father: "Smell that son?"

Son:" What is that father?"

Father"That my son, is desperation"

BRUH you can post that in every dceu thread you like no one will take it or you seriously

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#27  Edited By Eredin12

@baalhaddad: All i am posting is what filmmakers themselves said, not sure what that has to do with desperation, i am just trying to show how good they really are. I dont care if DC fans want to turn a blind eye to what guys that made their movies think and pretend it does not exist, the point of posting this was never to try to convince them.

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^^^

Imagine being so desperate you have to use:

1: a statement from a secondary source

2: a statement where the guy straight up says they were "GUESSING"

3: a statement that includes the word "MIGHT"

4: a statement that is contradicted by feats

Now i see why others don't debate that guy lmfao what a joke

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#29  Edited By Eredin12

@baalhaddad:

1: a statement from a secondary source

What is wrong with using an article about what filmmakers themselves think, that is the only way we can learn more about their intent

2: a statement where the guy straight up says they were "GUESSING"

Yeah they were trying to figure it out on that meeting they had, they guessed there, and then they gave us some conclusions at the end that they made as well, i am only using those conclusions

3: a statement that includes the word "MIGHT"

Meaning there is a chance

4: a statement that is contradicted by feats

Not really

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Now i see why others don't debate that guy lmfao what a joke

Others? I never noticed that, who do you mean? I mean specifically for MCU/DCEU threads? Even Detective and Organic tag me all the time if only to cry

As i said, its simply what filmmakers themselves think about their own characters, i am more than happy to see you using the same thing for Russos

Still, i do think that Zod is city block level, i just dont think that is enaugh to beat Tony, he can give him a good fight sure, but not win in the end, its not like i think that Tony one-shots or something

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A cruise missile isn't KOing adapted Zod. I could see them getting KO'd by it during the Smallville fight, but EoS Man of Steel? No.

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#32  Edited By Eredin12

@gangorca: Why not? I mean i dont think Filmmakers specified that they only referred to early MOS Kryptonians, although i guess you can try to say that is what they were implying with Faora missile scene

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@eredin12 said:

@gangorca: Why not? I mean i dont think Filmmakers specified that they only referred to early MOS Kryptonians

Because feats. Also, it is refering to any Kryptonian but Superman and Zod should be significantly above the likes of Faora and Nam-Ek.

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#34  Edited By Baalhaddad

@eredin12: i'm not calling you a joke just to be clear i meant using that statement is a joke i don't disrespect people over a debate with fictional characters it's pointless

I mean more respectable debaters like RBT and Ready4Madness i've seen you tag the former and all he says to you is "okay" saitama style and the latter just straight up tells you not to tag him and you may think that it's because you're right and they're not but i've debated rbt who was backing mcu thor/captain marvel while i backed DD/ superman and i can tell you they're far less biased than you, and the reason they don't want to debate you is because of reasons like the above

Zod's not city block level, superman's world engine bullrush is city-block+ level and that was depowered and then not only did he got returned to full power but he got stronger and then zod matched him and did'nt even slow down in their fight up until he got his neck snapped i'd put him around city-block++ but then again he's only spiderman level to you lmao

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@gangorca: The way i see this, is that it doesn't necessarily mean that it will one-shot them, it just has a chance to knock them out, it might do it like MMA fighter might knock other MMA fighter out in a fight, or like Superman might knock out Zod, that that it wouldn't make misslee stronger than them just comperable, and since he was referring to strongest ones, it would make snese with him being city block level

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#36  Edited By GangOrca

@eredin12 said:

@gangorca: The way i see this, is that it doesn't necessarily mean that it will one-shot them, it just has a chance to knock them out, it might do it like MMA fighter might knock other MMA fighter out in a fight, or like Superman might knock out Zod, that that it wouldn't make misslee stronger than them just comperable, and since he was referring to strongest ones, it would make snese with him being city block level

Except Superman is already above a cruise missile in striking by the end of MoS and Zod roughly scales. It really doesn't make sense to use the cruise missile statement otherwise unless we took away from stuff like the WE bullrushing or Superman's shockwave clash. I know you certainly wouldn't use it for BvS or JL Superman but regardless he is still the same Kryptonian mentioned in the statement.

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#37  Edited By Eredin12

@baalhaddad:

i don't disrespect people over a debate with fictional characters it's pointless

Agreed, i dont have a bad opinion about you as well, we simply disagree about some fictional characters

I mean more respectable debaters like RBT and Ready4Madness i've seen you tag the former and all he says to you is "okay" saitama style and the latter just straight up tells you not to tag him and you may think that it's because you're right and they're not but i've debated rbt who was backing mcu thor/captain marvel while i backed DD/ superman and i can tell you they're far less biased than you, and the reason they don't want to debate you is because of reasons like the above

Ready4Madness is a DC fanboy lol, hell him and i never much interacted to being with, as for RBT, that is what he does on thigns we debated over and cannot agree, since he cannot really make good arguments about how Thor is not bulleptroof for example, which is what we discussed

I dont care how " biased," you think i am really, i think that JL Superman beats MCU Thor or Hulk, for example, I am not some fanboy who cannot admit MCU loses, i simply think that DCEU Kryptonains are a lot wanked and try to debunk that wank, that is all

There is no proof about how weakend he was there, so that is not really usable

he's only spiderman level to you lmao

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man

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#39  Edited By Eredin12

@gangorca:

I know you certainly wouldn't use it for BvS or JL Superman but regardless he is still the same Kryptonian mentioned in the statement.

Yep, i wouldn't, he gets stronger as time goes on, just look at him in early MOS and late MOS; let alone in JL

Except Superman is already above a cruise missile in striking by the end of MoS and Zod roughly scales. It really doesn't make sense to use the cruise missile statement otherwise unless we took away from stuff like the WE bullrushing or SUperman's shockwave clash.

If those are city block level feats, and i am pretty sure some stronger missiles can be that strong, then i am pretty sure that would still make sense?

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@eredin12: look at clark breaking through a mountain top or faora throwing him through multiple building walls and wrecking a bank vault door(something a cruise missle can't do) and if you think he's missle level then that's absurd

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#41  Edited By GangOrca

@eredin12:

Yep, i wouldn't, he gets stronger as time goes on, just look at him in early MOS and late MOS; let alone in JL

My point exactly.

If those are city block level feats, and i am pretty sure some stronger missiles can be that strong, then that would still make sense?

Cruise missiles at their best (like a tomahawk) would be about 1.3 to 2 tons of TNT which the WE is significantly above thanks to displacing thousands of tons of water at subsonic speeds and collapsing multiple skyscrapers in 2 seconds flat with every pulse. I'd also consider Superman and Zod clashing and creating a shockwave of the size it was at the beginning of their fight above that as well.

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Tony is the only problem and yet Zod will still win

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@gangorca said:

@eredin12:

Yep, i wouldn't, he gets stronger as time goes on, just look at him in early MOS and late MOS; let alone in JL

My point exactly.

If those are city block level feats, and i am pretty sure some stronger missiles can be that strong, then that would still make sense?

Cruise missiles at their best (like a tomahawk) would be about 1.3 to 2 tons of TNT which the WE is significantly above thanks to displacing thousands of tons of water at subsonic speeds and collapsing multiple skyscrapers in 2 seconds flat with every pulse. I'd also consider Superman and Zod clashing and createing a shockwave of the size it was at the beginning of their fight above that as well.

Does IM even have missiles that poweful?

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#44  Edited By Baalhaddad

@eredin12: of course they're wanked there is'nt a single verse where characters are'nt wanked but it's not like mcu characters are'nt either

Oh I don't think you're biased i know you are but it's extremely hard not to be the thing is just to balance it

We don't know how weakened he is but we know he is infact weakened and he was coughing badly and we know he got stronger so he scales above it anyhow and zod scales to him

The strawman argument does'nt work here for example: if i said goku was only solar system buster and you said "goku is still only as strong as cell? lmao" That's not a strawman because that's what i'd be saying but in different words, so when you say kryptonians would be ko'd by a missle and we know they can tank many attacks from each other, each of those attacks would be like rpg level which would put them around spiderman level, so if you say they're missle level then yes you are basically saying they're spiderman level and there're no way to twist it

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@byondeon said:
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@byondeon said:

EG Tony would beat Zod fairly easy. Tony would beat Superman so a weaker Kryptonian wouldn't be a problem

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Superman haven't any feats that would make him actually a threat to Iron Man.

You should really look at the movies, before actually posting on a thread where you are unfamiliar with the characters.

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@byondeon said:
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@byondeon said:

EG Tony would beat Zod fairly easy. Tony would beat Superman so a weaker Kryptonian wouldn't be a problem

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Superman haven't any feats that would make him actually a threat to Iron Man.

You should really look at the movies, before actually posting on a thread where you are unfamiliar with the characters.

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Lmfao

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#47  Edited By Eredin12

@gangorca:

My point exactly.

While ture in this context he was talking only about MOS Clark and he never gave a specific timeframe

Cruise missiles at their best (like a tomahawk) would be about 1.3 to 2 tons of TNT which the WE is significantly above thanks to displacing thousands of tons of water at subsonic speeds and collapsing multiple skyscrapers in 2 seconds flat with every pulse I'd also consider Superman and Zod clashing and createing a shockwave of the size it was at the beginning of their fight above that as well.

Pretty sure busting Skycpaers took a bit more than that, not sure if 2,4 tons of TNT cannot do that, but yes to be fair some of those feats do appear to be above that 2 tons of TNT level, which i never denied, which leaves only 2 alternatives

1. intent over calcs

2.He was referring to something more like MOAB or something city block level, which i think would explain all of that perfectly

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@eredin12 said:

@gangorca:

My point exactly.

While ture in this context he was talking just about MOS Clark and he never gave specific timeframe

Cruise missiles at their best (like a tomahawk) would be about 1.3 to 2 tons of TNT which the WE is significantly above thanks to displacing thousands of tons of water at subsonic speeds and collapsing multiple skyscrapers in 2 seconds flat with every pulse I'd also consider Superman and Zod clashing and createing a shockwave of the size it was at the beginning of their fight above that as well.

Pretty sure busting Skycpaers took a bit more than that, not sure if 2,4 tons of TNT cannot do that, but yes to be fair some of those feats do appear to be above that 2 tons of TNT level, which i never denied, which leaves only 2 alternatives

1. intent over calcs

2.He was referring to something more like MOAB or something city block level, which i think would explain all of that perfectly

He straight up said cruise missle and not only that we saw those missles hitting buildings and they did'nt cause half the destruction of the shockwave clark/zod did

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#49  Edited By Eredin12

@baalhaddad:

of course they're wanked there is'nt a single verse where characters are'nt wanked but it's not like mcu characters are'nt either

They are a lot less, that is for sure, if MOS Kryptonians had feat as good as some Thor or Loki have, in certain stats, just imagine wank it would follow

Oh I don't think you're biased i know you are but it's extremely hard not to be the thing is just to balance it

If you mean do i like MCU a lot more, yes, since its far better in almost evrey way really( quality, consistency, story, characters, etc) but when i say who wins, i try to be objective and go by feats

As i siad we dont know just how much, which makes it unusable to argue he is normally above it by nay decent amount

The strawman argument does'nt work here for example: if i said goku was only solar system buster and you said "goku is still only as strong as cell? lmao" That's not a strawman because that's what i'd be saying but in different words, so when you say kryptonians would be ko'd by a missle and we know they can tank many attacks from each other, each of those attacks would be like rpg level which would put them around spiderman level, so if you say they're missle level then yes you are basically saying they're spiderman level and there're no way to twist it

No, since i dont really think it would one-shot them as i explained, well at least not adopted ones, I only think city block level one has a good chance to knock them out

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@eredin12:

While ture in this context he was talking just about MOS Clark and he never gave specific timeframe

By feats, they definitely aren't talking about end of MoS Clark. Maybe Smallville or first flight Superman is more fitting.

Pretty sure busting Skycpaers took a bit more than that, not sure if 2,4 tons of TNT cannot do that, but yes to be fair some of those feats do appear to be above that 2 tons of TNT level, which i never denied, which leaves only 2 alternatives

1. intent over calcs

Busting multiple skyscrapers at once completely doesn't require a calc, cruise missiles simply can't do that kind of damage.

2.He was referring to something more like MOAB or something city block level, which i think would explain all of that perfectly

An MOAB isn't a cruise missile...